Broncos To Trade Aqib Talib To Rams

Per NFL rules, this trade cannot be commenced until the first day of the new league year, which is March 14.

The Broncos will gain $11 million in cap space due to relief from Talib’s 2018 base salary of the same amount.

The Rams’ 5th round pick in the 2018 NFL Draft is 160th overall.

  • Tim

    Happy with the value we got back. Thanks for the SB Talib! You are a hell of a player

  • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

    Supposedly for a 5th?! We better be getting Cousins, to give up a known talent like Talib.

    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      That’s precisely what this is about, IMO.

      • royalwithcheese

        It’s so we have enough cap space, for sure. But Talib didn’t want to play for VJ, and I don’t blame him.

        • RSH

          According to who? D-Mac?

          • There has been rumblings about it. But who needs solid sources anymore… just ask Mark Schlabach at ESPN.

      • PiperAR

        Partly, but not completely. It depends how much truth there is to the notion that he wants out of Denver. They could wait until FA additions are a done deal. Doing it now means he went to a team he and the Broncos agreed on, and Denver gets a 2018 pick vs next year if the trade happened after the draft.

    • Agreed. Just seems like a bad move to part with a CB that’s still top 5 in league and on a reasonable contract for the next two yrs. I get that w/o a major upgrade at QB doesn’t matter how many elite corners we have, but with all the trashing of the D Elway has been doing lately just not sure how he expects improvement after moving Talib.

      • Nick

        This is where you hope they guess correctly that Talib could be on the decline soon.

        • I’m more concerned they guess right on the QB.

          • bradley

            And how they will replace Talib.

    • MattR

      This is a good deal if the team is able to use the cap space to sign Cousins and a bad deal if they end up with anyone else behind center. Personally, I don’t think a 5th round pick is enough compensation to take that risk. I would rather have held Talib until the QB situation is known. Hopefully you could still trade him after free agency starts, but there is also definitely a chance that the Rams and other teams would sign a CB and no longer be interested. Still, I would rather take the chance of ending up with no compensation for Talib over the risk of losing Talib without gaining Cousins.

  • Nick
    • Rob Rooney

      I have to agree. Plus Aqib gets his full salary (unless he signs some type of extension), so he gets paid. I hate to see him leave but I think this was pretty fair all around and he got to go to a team he preferred.

    • pubkeeper

      That Nick dude on Twitter has some good takes.

      • Nick

        They may be good takes, but they’re also ice cold takes. No way I can compete with all the flames that go on there.

  • RSH

    Thank you for your stellar play here in Denver, Aqib! I am glad that you are reunited with Wade Phillips. Please go easy on us in your return to Denver this upcoming season. And thank you, John Elway, for not letting Talib land with the Patriots.

    • Nick

      He picked off the Bucs twice in his revenge game against them in 2016. That should be enough in that department.

    • Nick

      Oh, and take it easy on the Broncos, but don’t take it easy on the Raiders, and snatch a 3rd chain away from Crabtree if he’s still there.

      • RSH

        Absolutely! And I hope both he and Marcus Peters make life miserable for Patrick Mahomes and Philip Rivers.

  • Nick

    I feel a bit bad for the 49ers if they really were interested in Talib. It feels like Talib was not interested in playing for them, and now they have to face him as an opponent twice a year.

    • Nick

      But on the other hand, it is nice to see Elway consider Talib’s desires within reason. That should get him some goodwill in the NFL karma department.

      https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/971918522589868032

      • Jason

        Doesn’t quite jive with pictures some would paint of Elway the GM being cloaked in ego and hubris, does it?

        Best wishes to Aquib.

  • RSH

    The Rams secondary is going to be filthy good in 2018. We need to run the ball as much as possible when we face them in 2018.

    • Nick

      Unfortunately, they have Aaron Donald to deal with there. Now that Ogletree is gone the middle may be the only place to exploit.

      • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

        They are in “win now” mode.

        • Nick

          So WSBH, I believe you have some very good ammunition now to aim at your Seahawks friends if they chirp at you:
          –Them: Haha, you lost Talib!
          –You: Yes, but he went to your rival.

          And Sherman could be gone from them soon, as well–they’ve already lost Bennett.

          • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

            There is some pee dribbling down the sides of their legs right now.

      • RSH

        The Rams’ run defense left much to be desired in their 2017 playoff loss to the Falcons.

  • royalwithcheese

    2 thirds, 2 fourths, 3 fifths. Sure seems like this team is ready to trade up. I just hope it’s not from 5…

    • Yeah you have to think they’re gonna package picks to move up at a certain point. Now they have tons of capital to do it (to, say, move up to end of first round.)

      • royalwithcheese

        This is what I’m hoping they’ll do, depending on who’s there. Moving up from 71 is also appealing.

    • InSiemianWeTrust

      With the First Overall Pick, the Denver Broncos select Josh Allen!!

      • RSH

        Nope. Saquon Barkley after we sign Drew Brees or Kirk Cousins. All part of a grand design, epic offseason.

        • InSiemianWeTrust

          That’s a universe I can live in.

    • RSH
  • Welp there it is. Sad but happy if that makes sense. Sad to see him go, happy for him he’s reunited with wade and in the NFC where I won’t feel bad if he does well, happy we got decent value for him and probably traded a year before he’d have a lot less value.

  • InSiemianWeTrust

    Dude was a player. Wish he had gotten the pick6 record with us.

    Probably was the right time to cut him. I’m not sold on Roby though.

    • Roby is pretty good imho tho more safely as a 3rd CB, we’ll see what he can do. Broncos will clearly draft a CB now too so plenty of ways this will still play out…

  • Kush-Lash
    • RSH

      That was such a great day. The weather was quintessential for February in Denver. I will never forget standing on the wall outside the Colorado Supreme and Court of Appeals building watching that parade. I just wish my phone had not run out of battery so soon during the festivities.

  • Tyler

    This only makes sense to me if we get Cousins. Otherwise I see no reason to lose an elite talent at a very reasonable salary.

    • cjfarls

      Or if we get some other solid FAs with the money. E.g., if we get a solid #3 vet CB for $5m, and use the other $5m for improvement at position X…. that could still be a win.
      Talib was a “plus value” contract. whether it was the best use of $10m in cap space is still debateable though, and that depends on how we spend it.

  • Nick

    Walt says A+ for the Rams, C- for the Broncos. I say he’s not paying full attention to Talib’s age and salary as far as draft compensation goes.

    https://twitter.com/walterfootball/status/971922488438476801

    • Tyler

      Why is Talibs salary a knock? He’s far from overpaid.

      • Nick

        Far from overpaid based on the past. Far from overpaid based on the future? We shall see.

    • Jason

      It would seem grading a trade without seeing any results is moronic at best.

      If Talib falls off the cliff this year, and we pick up another Malik Jackson, is it still a C-?

      • DCJ1

        Moronic is the media’s middle name in their rush to be first with hot take analyses.

  • TiredOfWinning
  • Maybe team thinks Rios can play in slot. Langley didn’t look good…

    • RSH

      I would be surprised if the Broncos do not sign another veteran. I also think that they will draft another cornerback.

      • Ya, for sure I expect Den to draft a CB by end of 3rd. I’m hopeful with a full offseason of pro work Langley will turn it around.

        • RSH

          If I was Langley, I would be asking whoever I needed to ask to help me make a connection with Champ Bailey this spring for some mentoring and tutelage.

  • RSH
    • RSH

      Aqib Talib deserves to be in Denver Broncos Ring of Fame much more than John Lynch does.

      • T. Jensen

        I agree Lynch and Dawkins were fun to have but I never really considered them full broncos and they didn’t bring us a ring.

    • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

      Talib’s football knowledge was often overlooked due to his dumb, off field incidents. He is REALLY smart when it comes to the x’s and o’s.

    • BlackKnigh

      I like this! He will contribute there. Me thinks for 2 or more seasons.

  • RSH
  • RSH
    • DragonPie

      I miss Ware and I miss Wade.

      • Steven Searls

        We forget the impact of Ware truly opposite Von. When he was not in the lineup our pass rush was so much worse. Having him healthy for the 2015 playoffs allowed Von to dominate.

  • Sparks

    Time to call Malcolm Butler.

  • RSH
    • Tyler

      More than half his interceptions went for touchdowns. Impressive.

  • Jeremy

    Overall, the Broncos paid Talib 37 million for 4 years of service, or 9.25 APY.

    Thanks for everything, Talib.

  • Jeremy
    • BlackKnigh

      Thanks for posting!

    • Steven Searls

      Best part of that play was on the run back when he shook off Cole Beasley, who tried to tackle him, like he was a rag doll.

  • DragonPie

    I am glad that he landed with Wade. And I’m glad that he didn’t land with Belichick.

    I think that his contract was still reasonable for his production, but I also think that Roby should be decent as a #2 corner and that if they’re right about Roby, keeping him as a third corner would be a luxury. Ideally, we should still have a decent secondary, but should have more resources to shore up other areas.

    The more that I think about it, the more I’m getting cold feet for Cousins. I’m not so sure that a Keenum or Foles won’t put up similar numbers for far lower salary. Cousins has looked very good some years and averagish other years. So in my mind, I’m not as sold on the notion of dropping contracts for Cousins, but for other players at other positions, sure. I could see it.

  • Jeremy

    Guys remaining from the Super Bowl 50 team defense are Chris Harris, Darian Stewart, Brandon Marshall, Von Miller, Derek Wolfe, Bradley Roby, Shaq Barrett, and Shane Ray. Those 9 guys provided 47.7% of the defensive snaps in super bowl 50. Other 52.3% is gone.

    Corey Nelson played 2 snaps and Todd Davis played 1 as well, and there is a chance they return.

    Since I have it up, left from the offense is Matt Paradis, DT, Sanders, CJ Anderson, possibly Virgil Green, possibly Bennie Fowler, possibly Cody Latimer, Max Garcia and Trevor Siemian. All those guys provided 40% of the offensive snaps, although I doubt they are all brought back.

  • Jeremy

    Before the move the Broncos had 24.8 million in cap space. This move creates 10.5 million in cap space (11 million saved, but it pushes another guy into the top 51 calculation). The net cost of our draft picks is 5.7 million, and the net cost of tendering Paradis and Shaq Barrett is 4.5 million.

    That leaves approximately 25.1 million in cap space for 2018

    In 2019, before the move we had 51 million in cap space, and 30 guys signed. The gross cost of the 2018 draft class (including the new pick) is 14 million, and brings the roster up to 41 guys. Cutting Talib saves 8 million and brings the roster down to 40 guys. Getting the roster to 51 will cost 5.5 million. The 2019 draft class will have some net cost, somewhere between ~2.5 & 6 million depending on how good we are and how many picks we acquire, but I’ll ignore for now.

    That leaves approximately 39.5 million in cap in space for 2019.

    Pending free agents next year are Roby, Paradis, Shaq Barrett, Shane Ray, Domata Peko, Max Garcia, and Cyrus Kouandjio.

  • BlackKnigh

    I am going to miss Talib. He was an outstanding CB and made a helluva difference in the defensive output. I am happy that he landed with Wade and the NFC. He will be well used in LA. He will team with the other 6’2″ CB from Montana. I look for the Rams to have a very good secondary with this addition. I hope that this decision will end up being a good one.
    It is not a bad thing to let veterans and their high salary go. They have to be replaced by very talented players though.