• bradley

    Chargers’ Casey Hayward had the best single-game performance by a CB in 2017

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-chargers-casey-hayward-had-the-best-single-game-performance-by-a-cb-in-2017

    “The Los Angeles Chargers’ Casey Hayward, PFF’s award-winner for best coverage defender in 2017, earned three of the five best single-game grades at the position this past season, including the No. 1 game grade by a cornerback, en route to an NFL-high 96.4 overall season grade.”

  • bradley

    Redskins’ 1987 replacement players will get Super Bowl rings

    https://sports.yahoo.com/redskins-1987-replacement-players-will-get-super-bowl-rings-024428826.html?src=rss

    “Thirty years after the Washington Redskins finished off the Denver Broncos in Super Bowl XXII, the men who ran off three straight wins for the team midseason — the “replacement players” — will get their Super Bowl rings, the team announced Wednesday.”

  • bradley

    Todd McShay explains Josh Rosen’s big fall in latest mock draft

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/03/todd-mcshay-nfl-mock-draft-josh-rosen-drop-red-flags

    “Rosen has since become one of the biggest stories of last week’s NFL combine, as some team executives are reportedly worried about Rosen’s personality and off-the-field antics. Peter King said earlier this week that many team officials he talked to made it clear that they didn’t like Rosen personally, and stated that the fact Rosen comes from a wealthy family could hurt his stock with some teams.”

    • The Color Orange

      Good grief. Trust McShay and King to be dumb enough to fall for the silly season smoke screens. Rosen isn’t falling out of the top 10.

    • Nick

      Coming from a wealthy family didn’t seem to hurt top ten picks Christian McCaffrey, Chris Long, Joey Bosa….oh wait, those are wealthy football families. That’s what this is really about.

      • T. Jensen

        I don’t know how much money Baker Mayfield’s family has but the high school he went to is known to be very affluent.

        Nick Foles dad is pretty rich. He develops/owns high end restaurants here in Austin. I’m pretty sure he’s worth millions. Part of the reason he was willing to walk away from football last year.

        • Drewredux

          I think they are getting at affluence makes kids satiated asshats who don’t work hard. More cynically, they might not like players are who aren’t essentially pychology endentured servents: you know, if you don’t sell your soul to the franchise, your option is abject poverty and doging bullets the rest of your prime working years.

          They’re dicks, the owners and their sychophants like Pete King.

          • bradley

            Look at that LB SF had for one year. Then he quit and went back to his wealthy family.

          • Drewredux

            Could be. Could be CTE scared the bejesus out of him.

            I don’t recall the Borlands being rich, though. I thought he was just a thoughtful guy who decided the risk wasn’t for him.

          • bradley

            I remember reading that his family is wealthy when he announced his retirement.

          • RSH

            https://www.thesportster.com/football/top-15-nflers-who-were-rich-before-they-made-it-pro/

            The Borland name will go down in NFL history, hopefully for the right reasons. One season and 108 tackles into his San Francisco 49ers career, Chris Borland walked away from a promising career sighting head trauma in 2014. Fortunately for Chris, his family were there as a safety net, allowing him to walk into a real estate investment business titled The Borland Group. Others that have to retire won’t always be as lucky.

            While Borland only played one season in the NFL, it was enough for him to make a major impact as many fans were anticipating that he’d be one of the premier linebackers in the league. In 14 games, he started eight games and improved as the season went on. He finished with more than 100 tackles and a sack, showing glimpses of his talent before he decided to prematurely retire.

          • PiperAR

            When someone asks me, well, if you don’t like it, why do YOOUUU watch it? Well, I’m aware there is a value conflict, and I’m honest about it. I don’t bullshit myself or come up with a convelouted narrative to justify it.

      • Yahmule

        Robert Smith retired early. He also dropped the dime on his Ohio State coaches who were pissed at him for spending too much time studying things besides his playbook.

    • Drewredux

      They don’t like that Rosen doesn’t necessarily believe that Murica’s golden age ended with James Buchanan.

    • ohiobronco

      I hope it’s the Broncos spreading this because they want him.

    • DCJ1

      I don’t have the mental fortitude today to actually check Peter King’s column to see if he really slipped this bit of brain silage in between his glowing reviews of caramel machosadistgrande imitation coffee drinks and some cheap-ass local version of a Belgian white beer, and what the context really was, but…

      Dipshits who spout the wealthy background forget that top athletes are a combination of natural ability and coaching. The natural ability comes from genetics, the coaching comes from a family being affluent enough to afford it. Speaking from experience: my son has similar athleticism as I did at 13 but I’ve been able to send him to some clinics and have some private coaching that my folks never could for me, which leads to my kid being his coach’s go-to middle reliever whereas I spent my baseball career on the bench or in left field for the minimal inning requirement because I didn’t know what the heck I was doing on the field.

      Every player in the freaking draft has had the benefit of parents who sacrificed monetarily to get their kids to where they are. For some the sacrifice was deeper, or took a different form. The guys from a underprivileged background both found a coach who was willing and interested to work with them, but also had a parent who did extra to free the kid up from looking after his siblings or doing chores around the house so he could practice.

      Slamming Rosen because of his background is stupid. A bunch of it derives from Rosen being outspoken about the indentured service of student athletes, and the subsequent Bill Plaschke column schilling for the NCAA corporate line and accusing Rosen of being hypocritical about student athlete pay because he came from a wealthy family.

      I would love to see Denver take Rosen at 5. I think he is the best pure passer of them all, and would adjust fastest to the pro game.

      • FarAwayBroncoFan

        Nicely put.

    • Yahmule

      King is doing everything in his power to keep this non-story alive.

  • RSH

    https://twitter.com/dpcollegesports/status/971580618642374657?s=21

    https://twitter.com/nickijhabvala/status/971511511381356544?s=21

    Standing alongside the middle of his runway inside the University of Colorado’s indoor practice facility was a Broncos contingent that included general manager John Elway, senior personnel advisers Gary Kubiak and Matt Russell and coach Vance Joseph.

    As Lindsay whisked by in a blur, the four glanced at one another and smiled coyly while a chorus of “oohs” and round of applause erupted from the cluster of fans and teammates behind them. Lindsay, the smallest player on the field at 5-foot-7, had just recorded a 4.39-second 40-yard dash — a follow to his 35 1/2-inch vertical leap, 14 reps on the 225-pound bench press and 10-foot, 4-inch broad jump.

    • InSiemianWeTrust

      Can’t wait for him to drop punt returns for us!

      • Sparks

        Lindsay hasn’t returned a punt in his whole college career. Do you think they’d put him back at PR? If so, what makes you think he’d drop them? He’s only had 7 fumbles (6 rushing and 1 receiving) in 841 touches (727 rushing and 114 receiving). He had 0 fumbles in 2017 on 283 touches (263 rush – 20 receiving). 1 fumble per every 120+ touches is pretty good, I would say.

        https://247sports.com/Player/Phillip-Lindsay-20010

      • Drewredux

        They carpet bombed return types last year. I imagine the next wave of carpet bombing returners isn’t scheduled for 5 or 6 years. There should be plenty of guys who should be able to catch balls or learn how to play football then.

        I’m patient.

    • Sparks

      I’d love for him to find his way to Dove Valley, either as a late round selection or UDFA.

      • Yahmule

        We let Austin Ekeler get out of our back yard last year. Let’s not let that happen again. Lindsay’s short, but at 190 pounds, he’s not that small.

        https://www.denverpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/cu_pro_day_nfl_prospects__1hr0543.jpg?w=810

        • Sparks

          He’s already working with the Broncos new S&C coach. He’s powerfully built, as you can see….and he’s a gamer. The guy has exceptional tenacity and a great feel for the game and is a gym rat. You’d have to give him keys to Dove Valley so he can open the place up each morning and close it at night. You don’t get a nickname like the Tasmanian Devil for no reason. Yesterday, I put forth some FA RB’s I wouldn’t mind seeing the Broncos reaching out too. I could see a backfield of Blount/Booker and then let this guy and DHenderson fight it out for RB3 and RB4.

          • RSH

            I would love for Booker, a running back drafted early, D. Henderson, and Lindsay taken later or signed as an undrafted free agent to be our 2018 backfield.

          • Sparks

            I could get on board with that too. How early? Like a NChubb in Rd 3-4ish or something earlier? I wouldn’t mind going the FA route, though, to get a known bruiser like Blount and then not have to feel like we need to draft one if the board doesn’t fall right.

  • bradley

    Jerry Jones reportedly forced to reimburse the NFL millions in legal fees

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jerry-jones-reportedly-forced-to-reimburse-the-nfl-millions-in-legal-fees/

    “On Jones’ end, he was probably just looking to put this situation behind him. Things actually got so bad between Jones and the NFL that the league’s other owners were reportedly looking at a nuclear option that would have involved taking the Cowboys away from Jones. “

    • T. Jensen

      That would have made the entire state of Texas happy. Most people here appreciate what he did in the 90’s but since firing Jimmy Johnson they feel he’s got too involved in the football side of things and even more so in the commercial/publicity side of things.

      Jerry no one wants to see your ugly face.

  • Nick

    Klis confirms Dianna Russini’s report on Talib from yesterday, and it feels like he puts on a little team aided spin in suggesting that Talib should want SF more than NE.

    https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/971613396968730624

    • Nick

      If the Broncos are having difficulty in trading Talib, something they should point out to him is the money factor. It’s unlikely he’s going to be able to get $11M in 2018 on the open market. Even if he signs a deal over $11M APY it’s likely to be backloaded to make the Year 1 cash less than $11M. Money may not be Talib’s main reason for not wanting to go to SF but it doesn’t hurt trying.

    • Drewredux

      Talib deserves to ruin a couple Case Keenum afternoons. Part of me hopes he replaces Marcus Peters.

      You cut a guy coming off an acclaimed season, who sold his heart and soul everytime he suited up for you, karma says you deserve to be haunted a time or two in the future. Bigly.

      My least intellectual grand mother’s favorite saying was: Don’t borrow trouble. As far as I can tell, Dove Valley is intent for begging for it, maybe even addicted to it.

      • DCJ1

        The Broncos seem to get haunted by the so-so guys they cut, who always end up having a career day against them.

        I’m mixed on Talib. He played hard, and despite his issues I liked him much better than I expected to when he was signed. But if his $11M salary is going to stop the Broncos from improving at QB or RT, then moving him is a business decision in an industry that often lacks loyalty on both sides of the fence. If the reports/rumors about arguments with VJ and JE are true, coupled with some of the intemperate tweets, this divorce has been in the works since the sideline fight.

        • Drewredux

          This pattern repeats its self. Carry Omar Bolden for 4 useless years, but just walk away from David Bruton just when the light comes on.

          Danny Trevathan was perhaps the best ILB in football his last year in Denver. He was the unheralded heart and soul of that defense; an emotional firebrand, and a situational game changing play magnet. He was adored on the field and in the locker room. But, nah, he wants to get compensated for it, and we got Todd fucking Davis and a guy that was hurt his whole OU career behind him. Let’s save that cap surplus.

          Malik Jackson only made about 10 splash plays the Super Bowl season. Every single one of them was at a vital moment of the football game. He also quietly held up a good run defender. Interior pass rushers/playmakers are more rare than franchise quarterback‘s. But, nah, he had the temerity to turn himself into high-impact football player, which priced thim out of Denver. Why not? What with rotational JaG Jared Crick out there just begging somebody will give him the vet minimum?

          They hit lightning in a bottle with Darian Stewart and mistake that for institutional genius instead of a stroke of luck.

          So, the Keenum and a Talib bullshit strike me as another example at this front office is not evolving.

          Cheaper usually means worse, and Elway’s competence at executing econoball is dubious at best right now.

          One final point, he really seems to have a problem with emotional leaders. They never get paid. They are always the first to ‘decline’.

          One more final point really is final. Come to think of it, Mayfield a Rosen are probably a pipe dreams for this organization.

          Mason Rudolph might be exactly the type of drone that Elway will fall in love with.

          • Tyler

            Sure, It would have been nice to have Trevathan and Jackson stay. I don’t think it is a matter of being cheap though. You can only pay so many stars. Who would you have cut to make room for them on the team?

          • Drewredux

            They carried forward plenty to to pay both of them. They’re sitting on enough space to sign fucking Von Miller again.

            Frugal is brilliant. Frugal with marked attrition is a problem.

          • Tyler

            Those contracts averaged out to ~21 mil per year. I don’t think we’ve had that kind of cap space lying around.

          • Drewredux

            Both would have been excessive. One or the other probably is the difference keeping Trev from notching as many playoff appearances as Cousins right now.

            Who knows how the snowball would have rolled after that?

            But at least Davis appears slated to be an abject liability someplace else next year. Crick is probably bucking hay back on the farm as we speak.

            Meanwhile, Malik Jackson was a force in the AFC Champ game. He is weird that way about the big stage.

          • Jason

            You should have Rico and Royalwith cheese give you a group hug :^).

            Contract money is a finite item. It’s always easy to speculate in the rear view.

          • PiperAR

            And yet just the other day, Jeremy was concerned that Denver is near the bottom of the league in free cap space for 2019. One person sees a problem with too much money committed, another person sees a problem with saving cap space for the sake of saving cap space.

          • RSH

            And here we are with three Super Bowl titles, one of which was won just two years ago, more AFC Championship Game wins than losing seasons since 1976, fifteen divisional titles, including a string of five in a row from 2011 through 2015, and 22 total playoff appearances.

          • cjfarls

            Gotta agree with Tyler – remember, at the time we were offering $15m/year to Oz as our QB of the future…. by the time that deal fell through, MJ and Trev were gone. We had no intention at the time of having a starting QB making less than $5m/year. Timing matters.

            There simply wasn’t cap space available to keep all the SB stars. We kept Wolfe/BMarsh. You can argue we chose the wrong 2, but folks playing themselves out of town on bigger contracts is the “curse” of good teams. IMO its not anything to whine about.

          • Drewredux

            It really comes down to their pipeline doesn’t seem to be working. The out-valve is golden, the intake not so much.

            Will Parks is arguably the only second contract guy they have drafted since Roby. Roby probably won’t it anyway (the second contract). He’ll want market.

          • royalwithcheese

            Simmons? Gotsis? Ray (depending on this season).

          • Sparks

            Paradis as well.

          • Drewredux

            Oops. My bad.

          • Drewredux

            Lattimer will probably get another couple years.

            If you’re raised in Denver, you either have to be Von Miller or Virgil Green. Anybody in between should get their significant others researching school districts in the other 31 NFL cities by their 3rd year.

            This is a wonderful strategy, because the NFL landscape is littered with Zak Kerrs, and Denver is sooo successful milking all that potential out of those guys, most of whom their previous bad teams can’t wait to get rid of.

            Meanwhile, over in Los Angeles, shit kind of went downhill a little for that defense a little when they lost the energy of Kavon Webster. Four years in Denver’s special football playermaker factory, he actually develops, becomes a player, he wants to stay in Denver, but he thinks he’s earned being paid like a number three at this point. Adios, Kavon.

            Again, I can’t imagine why this isn’t working.

          • Sparks

            In Kayvon’s case, he was, at best, CB4 in Denver. It’s reasonable that the Broncos wouldn’t want to pay him as a CB3 or better.

          • PiperAR

            KaWeb was CB #4 in Denver. I fully expected going into FA that someone else would pay him as a #3 or maybe a #2. He got less than I expected, maybe the strong CB draft class drove the price down for FA corners. I don’t see letting him move on and planning to replace KaWeb in the draft as being unreasonable.

          • T. Jensen

            could also be he was willing to take less to work with Wade, knowing he’d be utilized properly.

          • Drewredux

            Ray if he can stay healthy. Barrett is clearly the better player, but his pedigree will hurt him with this FO.

            Gotsis, I doubt. Crick redux.

            Simmons if they quit pretendimg he is anything but a a dependable but unintimidatimg box safety. Guys like that get 2 year, shitty deals elsewhere.

          • royalwithcheese

            Simmons is an excellent FS, IMO. Let him work deep and bring Stewart into the box.

          • Sparks

            I’m very high on Simmons as well. I can see a few Pro Bowls in his future if not more.

          • Drewredux

            They tried that. Then when Parks was forced into the lineup and Stewart was moved to free safety, we stopped being terrorized by TEs and RBs in the passing game. We started breaking up deep outs and making guys pay on slants. In general, the middle of the field stop being a playground for the opposing quarterback.

            Maybe all that it’s just coincidence. Or maybe the wrong youngster got most of the snaps at safety.

            I know for some reason that Simmons graded well most of the year. Watch the tape. Disappointingly slow to diagnose. Exudes the confidence of young Oz at times. Bites hard on any fake in man. Near never arrives on time to help on boundary throws in general.

            I had high hopes, love the person, but do not see a long-term Denver Bronco free safety there.

            He is one incredibly dependable tackler, especially for his age.

          • T. Jensen

            I’m higher on Parks than Simmons too but I still think Simmons has the skills to succeed in the league.

          • Drewredux

            Poor man’s Kurt Coleman. Nothing to sniff at, but nowhere near the justified initial optimism.

          • PiperAR

            Drafting players not good enough to extend is bad. Drafting players good enough to get more money on the market is bad. Seems like that leaves a very narrow sweet spot.

          • Drewredux

            That is a paradox. But if we can’t be outraged about something— rationally or somehow misguided— what is the point of this board? 😀

          • Jason

            Bolden was a stellar special teamer. Trevathan had significant injury concerns. Loved Bruton, and decisions like that are neither easy or foolproof.

          • Drewredux

            Omar Bolden had one fluke return in four years. He wasn’t a disaster as a coverage guy on special teams, but special teamers like him are also a dime a dozen.

          • Jason

            One could very easily argue the same is true of Bruton. Maybe even more so.

          • Drewredux

            Good point.

            I thought he was well better than average his last year in Denver. It seemed like he deserved to be on the field with the defense of unit, and he made some plays.

            But, yeah, Darian Stewart he was never going to be.

          • Hercules_Rockefeller

            there just wasn’t room for Bruton – we still had Ward on the roster, Darian Stewart was recently extended, and they had a couple of promising young backups in Simmons and Parks. It sucks to let him go, but it’s a business decision on both sides (obviously Bruton didn’t want to wait at least another year to get a shot at starting).

          • RSH

            And Bruton’s career was over one year later after playing in four games for Washington. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrutDa99.htm

          • PiperAR

            I thought Bruton’s career should have been over when Casey tried to snap this spine over the top of the pile.

            I also think Casey’s career, or season, should have been over, too. If a defensive player did that to an offense player, they would be writing a $50k check minimum.

            Cody Wallace. Thought his last name was Casey.

          • Nick

            You mean Cody?

          • PiperAR

            Yes.

          • T. Jensen

            F the steelers and their fans.

          • Sparks

            We all know the sumbitch you’re talking about. 🙂

          • Drewredux

            I’ll concede the injury history on Danny T.

            Bruton? Not as clear of reason, IMO.

          • PiperAR

            Bruton wanted to be a starting safety and thought Washington was a better opportunity to meet that goal.

          • PiperAR

            On Malik Jackson and Jared Crick, the 2016 D line looks completely different if Vance Walker doesn’t blow his knee. It’s not like Elway, Wade, Koller, and the pro scouting Dept met in Feb or March and decided Crick was a guy they wanted on the field for 80% of the snaps.

          • Sparks

            That Walker injury really screwed the DL. Some injuries are just more hurtful to the team than others, even for guys outside the upper echelon of players. That was one of them.

          • Drewredux

            But even best-case scenario, Vance Walker is not going to be an exceedingly rare interior playmaker. He might occasionally blunder into that third and 8 with momentum-in-the-balance sack. Malik Jackson produced similar plays multiple times a game his last two seasons in Denver.

            We weren’t talking a solid+ defensive lineman. We were talking a consistent play exploder who thrived in the system, was rapidly improving each year, and may well yet achieve superstardom.

            You don’t just blunder into another rare weapon all that often, especially when you draft the first two days like you are running a college program instead of a pro team.

          • PiperAR

            Ok. They extend Jackson, let Wolfe walk, sign Crick as depth, Walker blows his knee, and the 2016 line is improved by the difference of Jackson over Wolfe at a cost of the $4million APY difference.

          • Drewredux

            If Wolfe’s career is nearly done and Malik continues to build momentum in Jacksonville, then the Broncos lost hard.

            Let us not forget the Wolfe’s neck injury and general health issues predate the departure of Malik Jackson. It wasn’t just a matter of bad luck.

          • PiperAR

            I judge decisions based on the info available at the time the decision was made, and the thought process, not how things happen after the fact. It’s reasonable to prefer Jackson at $12M APY to Wolfe at $8M, although that opens up speculation about what butterfly effects, good or bad, it would have on the rest of the roster.

            I don’t recall when Wolfe’s injury first surfaced but Yahmule is still the only one who I’ve heard say it ought to be considered career threatening. If there was a red flag that should have been noticed before, was it because doctors were wrong? Doctors told Elway what he (and probably Wolfe) wanted to hear? Did doctors raise a flag that Elway chose to ignore?

          • Alaskan

            Boy, you are back on your game today.
            Welcome back !!

  • Nick

    If Jason is correct on this, that would be a low risk, high reward signing for sure.

    https://twitter.com/Jason_OTC/status/971627819909435392

    • Carsonic

      Ummm… So who do I believe? Is he low risk, high reward, or more likely to play 3 games than 16?

  • Nick

    Good god, these combine questions need to end.

    https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/971614235481595904

    • bradley

      I’d get up and walk out.

      • T. Jensen

        Easier said than done. These are literally kids and they are worried that every little thing they do might jeopardize their draft position/earning potential. I’m sure he wishes he had done that now but I doubt the thought even crossed his mind in the moment.

        • bradley

          If I was a GM, I’d be impressed with someone walking out after a shit question like that.

          • T. Jensen

            I would too. Then again, if I was a GM, I wouldn’t allow a stupid question like that to be asked. I’d keep it to something like:

            “You know we do background checks on all players we are seriously interested in drafting. Are there any off the field issues you want to address with us now? What have you done to insure such behavior won’t affect your play or our organization in the future?”

          • T. Jensen

            I do want to clarify that I don’t think being gay is an off the field issue or an issue at all.

      • Yahmule

        Aaron Rodgers can tumble down the draft board because Mike Nolan doesn’t think the young man kissed his ring enough in interviews, but one of these assholes feels confident – behind a desk and flanked by associates – saying some shit they would never dare say to one of these kids on the street. Their excuse is they want to see how the guy reacts. Amatuer psychologist douchebags, but cowards most of all.

    • Carsonic

      WTAZDDMF?

      • Nick

        Not even Urban Dictionary is helping me out with this one…

        • Carsonic

          Oh, sorry, I forgot I pretty much only use this on facebook. It’s a creation of some friends there: What The Actual Zippedy-Doo-Dah-McFuck

          • Tim

            That’s fantastic!

          • Carsonic

            Thanks, we were pretty proud of ourselves! 😀

          • Nick

            Ah, I never would have figured that out. Then again, the younger generations might not even know what Zippedy-Doo-Dah refers to, since Disney’s tried to bury Song of the South as deep as it possibly can.

          • Sparks

            Wait just a minute. Are you saying you have online friend outside of In Thin Air?? I feel so used and dirty.

    • Yahmule

      This fucking bullshit again?

    • Yahmule

      I wish one of these kids would answer that question by punching someone’s teeth out.

      • Nick

        Or, since they’re bringing mothers into this, ask them back if their mother is a hamster.

        • JMac

          Oh if their Father smells like elderberries

          • Carsonic

            Then request that they go away upon threat of being taunted a 2nd time.

          • Nick

            Then fart in their general direction.

            (These were the responses I wanted to set up, thank you for not letting me down.)

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            A true classic.

        • Jason

          Or a pig.

    • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

      If I was the player and some team asked me if I liked men, I would just wink at them, and say “yep, are you interested?”

      • PiperAR

        How about you play center, I play QB, and we can find out what happens from there.

    • PiperAR

      Will you hold out your hands, palm up? Is that a hair? Do you masturbate? How often? Lotion, oil, or dry?

      • Jason

        Yes to all……

      • gobroncos

        Depends on what’s handy 😉

    • DCJ1

      Best reader response: “And yet they hired Aaron Hernandez.”

  • Carsonic

    Imagine if there was a International Men's Day!!1!1

    • bradley

      Would that be PC?

    • RSH

      There is on November 19. 🙂

    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      It’s the first Friday in White History Month.

    • MattR

      If I may be serious for a moment, today is also National Kidney Day. A request for all the readers out there – there are more than 100,000 people in the US waiting for an urgently needed organ transplant of some type so please take the time to become an organ donor and make sure your family knows your wishes.

    • Drewredux

      I’m so demoralized and underappreciated as an oppressed white male that I can’t even dream about it. The disappointment would be crushing.

    • PiperAR

      Steak n BJ Day March 14th

      • Alaskan

        I’m in, if my wife will go along.

  • Tim

    Talib to the Patriots seems like a very un-Belicheck move. Usually he moves on from a player a year early instead of taking them back at the end of their career. But if you look at how bad their CB play was last year, the move makes sense. I am really curious what the Patriots do this offseason, especially if Solder retires.

    • T. Jensen

      He has taken older players on cheap contracts. Moss for example.

      He just doesn’t want to over pay an older player. (which isn’t a bad fiscal model, but sucks for the players)

      • Tim

        Absolutely agree, but Talib isn’t exactly cheap and they don’t have that great of cap space. I want to know if this is a move to try and grab one more ring before it all gets blown up in the next two years

  • $11M and $8M the next two yrs. for Talib seems very reasonable. Is this really the best option to clear cap space to accommodate Cousins or Keenum? I really think this has to do with the rumblings that Talib isn’t a VJ supporter.

    • RSH

      Sources, please?

      • Tim

        Saw it on Mile High Report, but this has been talked about quite a bit through the last couple of weeks

        • Thx. I don’t have a link handy, but recall reading a couple notes/reports about Talib and Joseph not being on the same page.

      • royalwithcheese

        Pretty sure DMac tweeted it out in a rant the other day.

    • Nick

      Unless you tinker with Von Miller’s contract it is the best option.

      https://overthecap.com/potential-transactions-by-team/denver-broncos/

  • RSH
    • Jason

      Going to miss Ed….

    • SteveS

      Probably figured once they started making GEICO commercials about him that it was time to go. I’ll miss him to – he was mostly very competent.

      • Alaskan

        I did a couple of trials against his firm in Phoenix.
        But I was disappointed that I never got to meet him.

  • Nick

    I think their RBs are fine, it’s the OL that’s a complete mess still.

    https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/971784216659841025

    • Tim

      After dismantling their defense this week, are they going to have a team next year outside of Wilson and Baldwin?

    • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

      They need to bring John Schneider into concussion protocol.

      • Drewredux

        When the over-the-top-bravado hits adversity, shit can go south. That, I suspect, is what is going on.

        Schneider is ridding his locker room of the front-runner types. It’s easy to be all in and a team player when you’re kicking ass week in and week out. Lots of guys don’t deal with the opposite well.

        I hope that’s the main explanation for why Denver is shopping an all pro all about the Denver Broncos cornerback right now. I hope it’s not because Elway is convinced that his magic football player building machine is working better finally.

        • Yahmule

          Richard Sherman is such a front runner, he played through stabbing pain in his achilles all season until the tendon finally snapped. That also snapped a streak of 105 consecutive games played for Sherman that dates back to week one of his rookie season.

          • Drewredux

            Something explains why they are moving on from an 8.5 sack interior pass rusher, a generational CB, and the reincarnation of Steve Atwater among others. Money I’m sure factors.

            I imagine the sideline temper tantrum’s are just the tip of the ice berg on how that locker room vibes right now. I imagine Sherman, who is a demonstrative on-field scape goater, would be just what Justin Simmons and Wil Parks need right now, for example.

            It’s just a theory, anyway.

            (Maybe they have a magic player replacer, too. Like Denver.)

          • Yahmule

            Maybe if Will had Richard Sherman for a role model, he would find more constructive ways to spend his off hours than sending threatening texts to ex-girlfriends.

            http://1y4yclbm79aqghpm1xoezrdw.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/sherman-girl_Megan-Carter_620-620×370.jpg

          • Drewredux

            There are pictures of Donald Trump hugging adorable kids. It has nothing to do with how he runs a cabinet meeting.

            There’s a lot to like about Richard Sherman as a person. I’m just not sure he’s the guy you want in your locker room, especially when he is frustrated by his physical decline.

          • Yahmule

            I don’t think that’s the source of his frustration, His own coach was saying he shouldn’t have been playing on that achilles and few players in the NFL would have done it. If he was that concerned about his health, why would he go to the breaking point for a flawed team that was going nowhere anyway?
            .
            The Trump comparison was too uninformed and ridiculous to debate.

          • Drewredux

            Maybe I missed the point of Richard hugging a kid, other than at least he doesn’t have personal problems like Will Parks.

            I know a lot of stuff alludes my simple mind, but a Richard Sherman photo op doesn’t mean shit.

            It was an innocent theory on why Seattle was tearing down the house. I forgot that Richard Sherman is some Greek god or some shit in your world.

          • Yahmule

            The story behind that picture is in the link, but who cares, right?

            Richard Sherman spends a lot of time talking at local schools. His foundation is not simply a PR front as is the case with so many athletes/celebrities, which is why Seattle nominated him for the Walter Payton award. He speaks out on social issues and the Seahawks are tired of getting threatening letters from anonymous assholes. That’s about the size of it.

            Trump’s actions and his budget have specifically targeted poor and disadvantaged children and his charity isn’t just a PR front but a fucking slush fund. Uninformed is the nicest way I can describe your comparison of the two.

            I respect the accomplishments of a guy who came out of Compton to graduate from Stanford and then put together a career that could send him to the Hall of Fame, while also giving a shit about people with less than him. Why shouldn’t I? Yeah, he’s a fucking asshole at times, but calling him a front runner is demonstrably untrue.

          • Jason

            Richard Sherman is one of those guys I really admire, once you look deeper than surface persona. He’s a great success story with an amazing humanitarian side.

          • Drewredux

            He didn’t handle himself with anything approaching class or dignity on the football field this year. Maybe he’s a saint behind closed doors.

            Usually you don’t move on from players that can play without a good reason. It’s probably money. I just theorized it might be that his personality doesn’t work in the locker room right now.

            I could certainly be wrong. I expect to be wrong a lot. We usually all are to some extent.

            It was just an idea. Maybe a stupid one. But for all of his accomplishments, and his impressive backstory , I personally wouldn’t want to work with the Richard Sherman I’ve seen.

            I’d most likely love to drink a beer with him, if I could drink beer.

          • Yahmule

            Yeah, he was a handful this season, but I don’t doubt that it was because he wanted to win and he could see this team coming apart over the last few years. If you compare Sherman to Aqib as a distraction, I think the guy who has potential felony charges hanging over his head periodically is way more trouble. The thing is your conduct is generally only considered an issue when the team is ready to get rid of you. Not just in the NFL but in virtually every workplace this is true to one degree or another. Yeah, Talib bitched about TJ Ward being gone to the point of distraction, but CHJ, Marshall, Wolfe and others strongly criticized that move, too.

            The next team that gets Sherman might get a guy who is declining, but they can rest assured that he’s going to play hard every week. You would never see him take millions from a chump like Daniel Snyder and then tiptoe around the field for a year, as a Prime example.

            The intensity level that got him here – and gets him in trouble at times – isn’t something he can shut on and off that easily. Chilling with a sick little girl in the hospital? No problem putting that side away, but when it comes to stuff that’s football related, he can’t do it and you wouldn’t want him without that edge.

          • Drewredux

            P.S. Overlooked link, just looked at tweet.

            My bad on that.

          • Yahmule

            It’s all good, Drew.

          • pubkeeper

            Yeah I’ve never been a huge fan of Sherman, but that said a lot to me too. Wouldn’t mind seeing the Broncos have a chat with him.

          • Yahmule

            I’m concerned about him going to New England or Oakland. Sherman is a 5 X Pro Bowl, 3 X All Pro cornerback and he has plenty left in the tank. What I would love to see him do is go to the Niners and shove it up Seattle’s ass twice a year.

          • Sparks

            I’m OK with him going to the 9’ers….just as long as he does it after they trade with us to move up to take Minkah, if the board falls a certain way that trading down a few slots is the best move to make for us. 🙂

          • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

            I am your Huckleberry for this particular type of voyeurism.

          • royalwithcheese

            Too old and coming off an achilles. I guess if he’s willing to come at a bargain…

        • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

          I wonder if this is why Pete Carol was so successful in the college ranks, but not so much in the NFL until he came to Seattle? When Seattle was successful, they were a young group of guys, who were hungry, and had a chip on their shoulder. With the exception of ET, they were all overlooked by other NFL teams, and were vocal about proving everyone wrong. The “Us against the world” narrative got stale when everyone got paid, and players started seeing through Pete Carroll’s ra ra personality, and realized they were involved with a business. I think Pete needs a fresh group to work with as opposed to older guys as it seems to fit his attitude, and philosophies. Rich, Veterans, see through the transparencies of the cruel, real world of the NFL.

  • Yahmule

    The NFL is wringing their hands over a bright young man like Josh Rosen because they’re terrified of anyone smart enough and brave enough to point out bullshit and hypocrisy when they see it.

    Meanwhile, I’m watching the Braves phenom Ronald Acuña tear up camp this spring. The 20 year old Venezuelan is probably the best and most complete prospect to come into the league since Trout and Harper in 2012. Instead of hearing about his bat, which helped him rocket through three levels of the minors last season, or his speed or glove or arm, which are all outstanding, a couple weeks ago we got to read a bunch of stories about his cap. More precisely, the jaunty angle at which Ronald sometimes wears his cap. This is not being respectful to the game, you see. Keep courting those young viewers by focusing on this important stuff, MLB.

    https://www.ajc.com/rf/image_large/Pub/p9/AJC/2018/02/28/Images/Braves_Spring_Baseball_4278.jpg
    Can you believe the nerve of this guy?

    • Yahmule

      If you’re playing fantasy baseball this year, draft this kid and park him on your bench for the first two weeks until they bring him up to the big club.

      https://youtu.be/HPe6GSfie54

    • Nick
      • RSH

        Especially when trying to keep the sun out of one’s eyes.

      • Yahmule
      • bradley

        Some one should make sure that kid never procreates.

        • Yahmule

          You know doggone well the opposite will be true.

          https://youtu.be/YwZ0ZUy7P3E

          • PiperAR

            Up until now, redneck men could count on snagging a gal from the redneck woman pool. Now that urban urban male Trump supporters are finding that educated women won’t date them, they might have to go country to find a missus to provide their steak and BJ’s. Then our young man with the backward cap is disenfranchised from the dating pool, so he goes and joins a men’s rights org or worse, white nationalist.

          • Yahmule

            “You don’t have to be lonely at Farmers Only dot com.”

      • Sparks

        So, what’s worse, the fact that his hat is on backwards while shielding his eyes or the fact that he has sunglasses on his backward facing hat while shielding his eyes? lol The sum is worse than the individual parts.

    • Drewredux

      I’m giving the doo-rag a spin. This is partly because I don’t feel like cutting my hair, partly so that I don’t get my character expunged for wearing my hat wrong, and a wee bit mid life crisis.

      It can’t be all wrong. My wife keeps getting all pissy at grocery stores. Apparently some unqualified people have the temerity to look at me more friendly than they should.

      “77 Glenn Frey. Took me a while, but I accomplished it. Except the walrus mustache. Can’t pull it off. I apparently just have Appalachia in this gene pool.

      P.S. I had no intention of writing a manifesto on hat the topic when I started this post. I guess I’m exceptionally verbose today .

      • Yahmule

        Most of my life, my hairstyles have been either as long as Carlin out of preference or buzzed down to my skull for convenience.

    • The Braves, the franchise the encourages the Tomahawk Chop, is all askance at someone’s crooked hat. Yeah, this is garbage.

    • BlackKnigh

      MLB needs more players like him.

      • Yahmule

        It looks like an amazing year for rookies. Acuña, Shohei Otani, Victor Robles, Scott Kingery, Miguel Andujar and the Rockies own Ryan McMahon to name a few. My favorite behind Acuña might be the Rangers fireplug Willie Calhoun. Short and chubby, but he’s no Tony Gwynn or Kirby Puckett with the glove and is stretched defensively pretty much anywhere you put him. The Rangers will try left field and DH to start. At home plate, he’s a laser show. Just a ridiculous amount of hard contact and he doesn’t strike out.

        https://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2017/09/13/images/mlbf_1829500883_th_45.jpg

        • BlackKnigh

          Wasn't there a guy in the 1920's who used to get ripped for his pot belly - but could hit like a madman and was a decent pitcher to boot for awhile? What was his name?

          • Yahmule

            When I was 9 or 10, I got my hands on a baseball book and started reading statistics. Ruth’s numbers just blew me away. Then I read a little further and discovered he was a great pitcher before his hitting exploits. I felt like someone was pulling my leg. It was like someone said, it there hadn’t been a Babe Ruth, someone would have had to invent him.

  • RSH

    Not surprising, but nonetheless, great news.

    https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/971798020466425858

  • The Color Orange
    • Russ

      Well, at least I no longer feel sorry for this dude anymore.

  • Sparks
    • Tim

      It changes week to week, without any additional football being played, it’s quite amazing!

      But here’s a question to help me procrastinate at work, who is the best media draft “expert”? It could either be someone well known like Kiper or Mayock or a lesser known youtuber or podcast type.

      • I will only say it definitely is not Kiper.

        • Tim

          Haha I respect his ability to create the role of mega draft expert more so than his actual scouting ability. But the man found a niche and has made a lot of money doing something I wish I could do

      • Sparks

        That’s a great question. It would be cool if there was a Trivago-like website that went out to say the top 100 prognostication sites/people and then compared their last mock of the season to reality once the draft is decided. Then they could keep a database and see who, over the years, is better at draft prediction than others. Something tells me the Kiper/McShay’s of the world wouldn’t be battling over the top spot. There’s probably some pimple faced kid out there who is batting .600 or better than no one ever hears about.

        I do find it funny that most of the write-ups containing the same strengths and weaknesses for players. It’s just that the writers value those strengths and weaknesses differently. Take Mayfield. Some love his passion and leadership qualities while others ding him for his passion and leadership qualities.

        FWIW, I do like Mayock and find his analysis pretty good overall, even if I don’t agree across the board with him.

        • Tim

          I like this take a lot. I would love to see not only their draft accuracy but to see how correct they were in the players they liked. I remember Kiper being so high on Klaussen when he came out and that flamed out but I would love to see a comparison on their scouting ability.

        • Yahmule

          It’s difficult to hit squarely on too many picks because trades tend to rock the board and obviously you’re going to miss both teams involved if they’re swapping ones. That said, possibly due to group think, the analysts come closer than expected collectively. Last year, in an examination of 104 mocks, Evan Engram and Ryan Ramczyk were the only players not involved in a trade that weren’t predicted by anybody. Which makes me laugh because I know Engram to the NYG was discussed at length on this board. Anyway, this article shows the results.

          https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/5/3/15517982/mock-draft-nfl-2017-results

          I don’t think anybody today comes close to being as good as Joel Buchsbaum was – and he was doing it with relatively primitive technology. I think Mayock still works hard at it. Like Tim, I respect Kiper’s ability to become his own cottage industry, but I really don’t think he watches nearly as much college football as he did 20 years ago. His analysis has gotten a lot more superficial, IMO.

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          I always score Kiper, McShay, Mayock and now Jeremiah’s first round mocks in the pool that I run. It’s rare that the experts would have won, but they do score well pretty frequently.

        • Kush-Lash

          I wonder about fantasy football experts too! Like, who is the nerd killing it in draft kings week to week and why don’t we have a scoring sheet for the pundits?

          • Yahmule

            The fantasy football and baseball experts that you see online avoid the high stakes games @ the NFFC/NFBC because they don’t want to explain why they finished 7th.

      • royalwithcheese

        I like Matt Miller (B/R) and Daniel Jeremiah (nfl.com). Lance Zerlein, Rob Rang and Zane Brugler are pretty good too.

        I may be in the minority after his Cam bashing, but I also buy Nolan Narwocki’s yearly and use that as my draft bible.

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          Nawrocki was absolutely right about Cam. He knows his stuff.

          • Sparks

            I was going to say our very own SMA has been very good about his draft writing’s. Are you going to do them this year?

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            I’m on the fence. I haven’t put in the time yet that I usually do, and there’s been so much discussion here already a lot of what I say would probably be redundant. But I did quit my job last week, so I have some time on my hands and I am starting to get a little taste of draft fever. Well, maybe not a fever just yet, but my temperature is slightly elevated.

          • Sparks

            Any input you have would be great. I always look forward to your take on the prospects. Hopefully your job separation was a good thing for you.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            After 8 years in that position I felt it was time to try something new, and frankly I felt it was time to take a short break from working altogether. So many folks spend most of their waking hours doing things they don’t want to do just to earn a paycheck. I’m going to take a little time for reflection and figure out my next step. I don’t want to look back one day wishing I had spent my life differently.

          • Sparks

            Good for you. Mind if I ask your profession?

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            I’m an engineer with an emphasis in environmental work, most recently regulation, but I also worked for a civil firm at one time.

          • Sparks

            Nice. Are you looking to get out of the engineering game altogether or just looking to put your skills to something you enjoy more?

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            I’m considering all kinds of things, including going into business for myself (engineering or otherwise) but as a licensed PE engineering will always be a good fallback option.

          • Sparks

            Best of luck to you on whatever path you choose. Now get some draft analysis going!! 🙂

          • RSH

            I always enjoy working with the water engineers and hydrologists on water law cases. Those are the real geniuses in water rights adjudicatory and administrative matters in the State of Colorado and the entire Western United States.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            I did a little water rights work at the civil firm I worked for from ‘08 – ‘10. I primarily designed water and sanitary sewer mains there, but when land development dried up for a while we had to find other niches to stay afloat.

          • Drewredux

            You ever watch Patriot on Amazon? The main character is a profoundly conflicted government black-ops agent who’s cover is as an engineer at a industrial piping design firm.

            I liked it. I think I’m the only one, maybe. Anyway, much of the comedy is him trying to be anything near competent amongst highly uptight and ambitious engineers.

            The general comedy vibe is Ally McBeal, if you remember that show.

            By the way, good luck on your transition. I’m remain mostly pleased with totally changing gears despite the risks and trade offs.

          • T. Jensen

            I wish I had enough of a cushion to do that. Being a mostly single income family(wife is an adjunct professor and teaches a class most semesters) makes that pretty difficult now a days.

            I’d love to pursue some other career paths (preferably self-employed)

          • Sparks

            The wife and I have talked about some franchise start-ups but for some of the more established franchises the cash-on-hand requirement is just too hefty a price tag for us currently.

          • RSH

            I am actually trying very hard to land a government position of late to get my student loans forgiven by working in such a position for ten years and making 120 payments during that decade’s time. https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/repay-loans/forgiveness-cancellation/public-service

          • Kush-Lash

            Two years in already working for the man! Live in NY, so got some pretty decent union benefits to go along with it too. Just an FYI, the executive budget proposal is considering cutting the PSLF program, so try to get in sooner than later.

          • RSH

            Oh, I am trying. I am currently awaiting word on two applications. Two weeks ago, a job I applied for interviewed the top six out of fifty applicants. I was number seven. 🙁

          • Kush-Lash

            Where do you live and what type of work are you looking for? I used to be a headhunter, just curious.

          • RSH

            I live in the Denver metro area. I am looking for federal, state, municipal attorney, hearing officer, and judge positions.

          • Kush-Lash

            The Office of Victims of Crime just got a shit ton of increased funding (the Victims of Crime Act appropriation in 2015 had like a 300% increase). Google and take a look at the VOCA administrator agency in CO, could be some opportunities there.

          • RSH

            Thank you kindly!

          • T. Jensen

            Me too. I’m currently fantasizing about copying a soda place like

            https://www.swignsweets.com

            https://www.mysodalicious.com

            They are super popular in Utah and Arizona but haven’t come to Texas yet.

            Or starting a food truck

          • RSH

            Swig is amazing. I always go there when I am in Saint George. My brother-in-law and I have often discussed quitting our day jobs and starting a food truck.

          • Kush-Lash

            Great movie BTW: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt2883512/
            Made me want a Cuban sandwich real bad!

          • Sparks

            Do you have some culinary talent? Ever watch the Great Food Truck race. I’ve watched most seasons and find it a decent reality show. You could get on there and win yourself a truck. 🙂

            https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/the-great-food-truck-race

          • Sparks

            So, in COS Dutch Brothers coffee is taking over. They just put one in literally 50 yards from a Starbucks and whenever I drive by (which is quite a bit) they routinely have 3-4 times the cars in line than Starbucks does. We had talked about opening one of those and you have to have a net worth of $500K, including $125k in cash. There’s a $30K franchise fee up front and after that royalty fees are 5% of sales or $1300 a month – whichever is greater. This doesn’t include actually picking a spot and paying for it to be up to Dutch Brothers code. We’re just not in a spot to make that work right now.

          • T. Jensen

            I have some talent but I think the key to those places is simplicity, uniqueness and low overhead.

            My thought for a food truck would be a tostada truck. Make my own shells and beans. Fry to order have options for plain (bean not cheese), brisket, chicken and pork. With maybe a weekend special topping.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            Absolutely. Simple and streamlined. If I was to go the food truck route it would likely be fried chicken, street tacos or ramen.

          • T. Jensen

            Here in Austin that market is a bit saturated. Hence tostada’s which are really just tacos but different enough to justify eating there instead of a taco place.

            I don’t have the talent to do a restaurant (except maybe bbq but that is super saturated here too)

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            I think there are two ways to find success with the simple/truck approach. Make something unique, as you said, or make something better than everyone else.

          • T. Jensen

            Exactly. Or be the first in the market/area.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            Food truck and/or restaurant are in consideration for me as well. I have a lot of food experience, and I really do enjoy it. The hours associated with running a restaurant are a bit of a deterrent, though, since I still have young children.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher
          • RSH

            Looks delicious. I will definitely visit your food truck should you go that route.

          • Sparks

            Damn, SMA. Is that art or food?

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            For the amount of money I’d ask people to pay for it, it’d better be both. 😉

          • RSH

            I have often thought of starting my own law practice, but drumming up business and collecting payments from clients are two of my least favorite things to do, so that is a no-go for now.

          • Sparks

            Just go the Strong Arm route and flood the airwaves with commercial after commercial. 🙂 And also hire a competent accounting service to do all your books for you, including collections.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            Haha! I like to picture him following ambulances around town with a stack of business cards and a trunk full of neck braces.

          • RSH

            I am now picturing Frank Azar or one of his henchmen doing just that on a Segway.

          • Alaskan

            I was scared to leave my law firm and just work out of my house.
            But it is easier than than you might think.

          • PiperAR

            Congratulations.

          • BlackKnigh

            When the last job that I had was coming to a close – one of the guys who worked as an independent contractor for our company – told me that my next job would be better than the last one I had. He was right. I started doing the work I do 2 years later – and I have enjoyed doing it ever since. I work long hours sometimes – but I like the work. 23 years.

          • BlackKnigh

            Joseph Campbell said to follow your bliss.

          • T. Jensen

            Newton’s SB year was an anomaly in my opinion, he’s a mediocre QB that can be stellar and subpar.

            Nawrocki claimed:

            “Newton has a track record as a non-dependable, non-trustworthy, fake rah rah leader at a very key leadership position, he could really struggle to win a locker room. He projects as a top 15 pick in this year’s draft, but he is still very much a project. In five years, don’t be surprised if he is looking for another job.”

            I do believe this is accurate except for the looking for another job. That would be accurate if it wasn’t such a QB needy league…

            He also claimed

            “I think if Marty Hurney takes Cam Newton he’s setting himself up for a similar legacy to Bobby Beathard (the GM who drafted Ryan Leaf)…I think in three years he’s going to be out on the streets and Cam Newton is going to be a mediocre NFL quarterback.”

            Which came true. Of course Hurney is back but it was still a valid prediction.

    • Jason

      It’s pretty comical. There are so many variables, coaches, scheme, locker room environment, misleading college stats that aren’t always apples to apples, and some random ass luck. It’s not too far removed from horse racing in terms of predictability.

      • Sparks

        As a WA State fan, what are your thoughts on Falk?

        • Jason

          I think he really thrived in Leach’s offense, but seemed to unravel some this year. Hard to say if it was health related, pressure from bring a preseason Heisman candidate,or what. He appeared to overthink shit in some games, like Boise State.

          He has pretty good arm strength, great accuracy, and good anticipation when he trusts it. I think he lacks the raw athleticism to succeed outside of a pure pocket passer offense.

          Who knows, could be the next Trevor Siemian or he could be the next Tom Brady.

          • Sparks

            Thanks for the input. Worth a late round flyer to compete for a backup role if they get a FA starter?

  • The 5th Amigo
    • PiperAR

      Well… Not sure what to think about that.

    • Sparks

      If the Broncos lose on the Cousins sweepstakes, but are still able to pull a Nelson at 5 and trade back up to get LJ in the latter part of the first round, I’d be ecstatic.

      • RSH

        Sign Teddy Bridgewater, too, and I would be on board with this.

        • Sparks

          That would be a fantastic trifecta, especially if Bridgewater can be had on a relatively team friendly deal. I don’t know if this is true, but I have a feeling that with Teddy’s injury history he may be had for halfish of what Keenum is going to get. If that’s the case, I’d much rather go Teddy than Keenum. Heck, I don’t know if the dollars are the exact same that I wouldn’t want Teddy over Keenum.

          • RSH
          • BlackKnigh

            If Teddy is our QB – and LJ is drafted and signed – should he be injured with LJ starting a couple of game is not a bad thing during the season. It will give him some game experience but not have the burden – if you can call it that – of being the starting QB on his shoulders. It will make it easier for him to move into the starting position.

        • Drewredux

          I think Teddy and Gary Kubiak would’ve been a match made in heaven.

          Too bad Kubiak hung up the whistle.

          • RSH

            Yes, as long as Kubiak would also be willing to diversify and modernize his playbook more with some RPO and plays that the Chiefs and Eagles have been running.

          • BlackKnigh

            Kubiak was the best!

      • Yahmule

        This is truly the best case scenario and I would be willing to spend 2019’s first rounder to make it happen.

        • Sparks

          Me too. Especially because I believe these moves would likely ensure that 2019’s first rounder would be in the last half of the round anyway.

        • The Color Orange

          Does the dreaded below 60% completion percentage concern you?

          • Clockwork Orange

            It doesn’t concern me as much since he showed improvement from one year to the next.

          • Sparks

            Yes and no. If he had a consistent subpar completion percentage, then yes, it would worry me. But he raised it from 54.7-56.2-59.1 over his 3 years so the trend is favorable. That and his 4132 yards rushing with 50 rushing TD’s helps counteract my comp % worry as well.

            https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/lamar-jackson-1.html

          • Sparks

            I should add he was able to raise his comp % while also throwing more passes each year, so that’s a good sign.

          • Yahmule

            To some degree, but the fact that showed steady progress year to year is encouraging and so is the fact that Louisville’s offense was a lot more complicated than people want to believe. I also think his running dimension ameliorates a lot of concern about his ability to throw into NFL windows early in his career because he can beat you multiple ways.

            This video is about 20 minutes long but it’s an excellent breakdown of Lamar Jackson as a passer and the Louisville offense in general. Schofield examines Jackson’s problem areas, mainly throwing from a narrow base, and they seem correctible with coaching.

            https://youtu.be/p7Um-azt7hQ

      • Samesies. Not sure if it’s possible, or may require trading into end of first round, but I’d be down.

    • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

      The highlight reel inside the article was pretty nice. https://youtu.be/T99YLSk40E4
      I am down with this, if we can double dip in the first round. It would sure make Madden a whole hell of a lot more fun!

  • Nick
  • Yahmule
  • Nick
  • RSH
  • RSH

    Dream, dream, dream. All I have to do is dream. https://predominantlyorange.com/2018/03/06/denver-broncos-drew-brees-still-free-agent/. If Brees needed a ride to the game, I would even put my package deliveries in peril.

    The Denver Broncos need a starting quarterback and, somehow, the New Orleans Saints have yet to lock up Drew Brees. It has been said there won’t be another quarterback like Peyton Manning to hit the market. However, there might be a slim chance it happens again.

    If the Saints have not locked up Brees yet, there’s a possibility it won’t be done on March 12-14.

    The Broncos more than likely could deviate from the plan of Kirk Cousins as priority number one. As evidenced in previous posts, a player like Cousins does not hit free agency at his age. The same could be said for Brees.

    Despite the past two two seasons, the Denver Broncos could have some appeal to Brees. There’s a great defense and the Broncos are keeping their two key wide receivers for at least one more year. John Elway running the show is the biggest appeal. He’s the Broncos’ top executive, but he is their Hall of Fame quarterback too. This is the same argument for why Cousins is considering Denver.

    Yet another point to ponder for Brees is the opportunity to take a crack at the team that he started his career with: The Los Angeles Chargers.

  • InSiemianWeTrust

    Combine MPH
    Allen 62
    Baker 60
    Rosen 59

    http://walterfootball.com/combine2018QB.php

    • Jason

      I’m surprised at Mayfield here. For all the conventional wisdom Elway is set on Allen, it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he went with Mayfield.

  • https://twitter.com/wkyc/status/971448307200520208

    (Spoiler: They will still likely be … brown.)

    • QDoc

      They need to go back to their old orange. The new neon orange is too Syracuse-y.

      • RSH

        They just need to go back to their classic set from before 2015.

    • Nick

      Good, those uniforms are atrocious.

      • Yahmule

        CLEVELAND

  • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

    Talib to the Rams?!

  • RSH
    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      Fowler wasn’t much of a 3 even if he did return.

      • RSH

        Agreed. He had some clutch moments in the 2015 AFC Playoffs and Super Bowl 50, but this is the right move. I wish him well except if he plays against us.

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          Hopefully Carlos Henderson can get it together. It would be nice if the solution was already on the roster.

          • pubkeeper

            Or Latimer

    • Nick
    • Nick

      Also:

      Bennie Fowler III will always have his enormous third-and-long conversion reception from Peyton Manning to rally the Broncos past the Pittsburgh Steelers in a 2015-season playoff game.

      He will always have his big touchdown catch against the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday Night Football in 2016 and two touchdowns on Monday Night Football in the season-opener of 2017 against the Los Angeles Chargers.

      How do you not also mention that he caught Peyton Manning’s very last pass ever, a 2 point conversion in the Super Bowl?!

    • Jason

      Hopefully this opens an opportunity for River Cracraft. Don’t know if he has the athleticism to work the slot in the NFL, but the kid catches anything remotely near him.

      • RSH

        Did you get to watch Cracraft in person at all?

        • Jason

          Yep

  • Nick

    This contract was such a disaster for the Dolphins.

    https://twitter.com/diannaESPN/status/971923717281517568

  • Drewredux

    For about the last 10 years, defenses have only been as good as their 3rd best CB.

    I think folks are being a wee bit flippant about the implications of Aquib Talib.

    Also, if the spiraling and brittle T.J’s exit caused the locker room dissention it allegedly did, how do you sell jetisoning a full-on baller coming off another Pro Bowl season?

    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      He’s getting older and he’s expensive. He is worth that salary, but not for Denver because they so desperately need a competent QB to score points. To have enough money to sign Cousins, this move was pretty necessary.

      • I don’t think $11M and $8M is all that expensive for a CB that’s still in the top group at the position. If it’s Cousins let’s hope they’re right on him b/c as much as missing on another 1st rd. QB would hurt paying $30M per for a guy that has pretty nos. but doesn’t elevate team and win from December on is probably worse, no? All that said, the team needs a massive upgrade at QB so have to take a shot… maybe Brees will actually consider leaving NO.

        • pubkeeper

          Agreed. Cousins is my plan A but not at 30$. Hearing rumors of Vikings offering fully guaranteed 90 should cause the Broncos to turn elsewhere but I’m concerned it doesn’t.

          • Well, hopefully the fallback isn’t Keenum. He had a great season no doubt but don’t see him being able to do that consistently over the next 3-5 yrs., do you?

          • pubkeeper

            I’m ok with keenum as long as he’s not viewed as a franchise qb. I’ll take him as a bridge to the qb at 5. The case/late round qb combo would be disaster to me.

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          It’s as much about the dead money (almost nothing… $1M?) as it is about the salary. Financially speaking, he’s the biggest net gain cut.

      • Drewredux

        I am of the opinion that it is robbing Peter to pay Paul.

        Stated differently, I don’t see a team deep enough or complete enough to shed talent to add talent. It’s a dog chasing it’s tail.

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          That’s a fair point. To me the improvement on offense due to the upgrade at QB will far outweigh the net loss on defense. Looks like a CB on day 2 of the draft.

          • Drewredux

            Almost vital.

            Maybe a trade. They have some picks.

        • Jason

          The defining insanity is doing the same thing but expecting different results. It’s obvious the balance on the team is not where it needs to be. Trading a very good CB on the backside of his career is not necessarily a bad way to leverage your assets. Of course, it does require the Broncos to do a better job of filling the talent pipeline. Risk vs reward is a never ending pursuit in the NFL.

          • Drewredux

            I wouldn’t bitch a nanosecond if the Broncos were coming off a playoff run and looked steady. Nor would I bitch if they did this as the first salvo in a tear down and rebuild. It’s the right thing to do in both situations.

            Doing it to land K. Cousins, I just don’t know. I don’t think he is good enough to overcome their limitations, and they added another big one today, and they are aiming to add another soon.

            They are going to need a hell of a draft to even give Cousins a puncher’s chance to live up to expectations.

          • cjfarls

            I’m the opposite… if we were coming off a playoff run, you don’t try to fix what ain’t broken. But for us, a top-5 defense with a bottom-5 offense resulted in a top-5 pick. It was broken, so we need to try to fix it.

            This team needed a big change, mostly on the offensive side of the ball. For a quick change, Cousins is probably the best hope of that. A top-15 offense with a top-10 defense will likely provide far better results than staying with a top defense but only marginally improving offense.

            If we don’t get Cousins… we’re more in the “rebuild” phase you talk about anyway as a rookie QB probably needs a full year to develop (at which point Talib is another year older).

            Moving on from Talib gives us the cap flexibility to fix other problems on the team, with about $20m more to spend over the next 2 years. Yes, we need to find a replacement for his production (either on the roster now, through the draft, or through FA), but it isn’t illogical.

            It makes our secondary worse in 2018 (and we’ll likely really be hurting if CHJ or Roby get hurt), but replacing a 3rd CB is not going to sink the DEF if the other CBs stay healthy.

        • BlackKnigh

          I am getting the feeling that this move was not necessarily to “buy” Cousins – but to get more competitive in other areas in addition to the QB. Denver may compete for Cousins – but I have a feeling he may not end up here.
          That would be OK. They can use the capital in other places – like get an OL that can move the defense out of the way at will.

    • Jason

      Not flippant, and he will be missed.

  • RSH
    • He doesn’t fit that mind bending, fast paced, score at will VJ offense like Booker does I guess. CJ is all heart, I hope he sticks.

      • RSH

        Are you always grumpy?

        • Ha, no. I like CJ and frustrated with the recent RB drafts.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            I’ve always liked him, too, but at this point I don’t think he’s all that far above replacement level. And they’ll need the $4.5M to land Cousins, if that’s where they’re headed.

      • Jason

        He is all heart, and I like him, but I don’t see him as irreplaceable. I think his replacement is on the roster, and is not named Booker.

  • ICK. Why is mark davis so icky. He has money to make himself less icky.
    https://twitter.com/jacsonbevens/status/971978081610035200

    • Yahmule

      That’s a hilarious tweet.

  • mikewyd

    Interesting breakdown on Edmunds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oTjfbxn3Ng