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Who is their backup QB since Moore is inactive?
Taylor down and McKenzie up.
Seems like the right thing to do. If they think he can be the guy, they gotta get him back on the horse and through the yips.
So who’s the emergency QB?
I had a dream last night that I was at a restaurant, and John Elway was there. He was very cheerful, and I was very excited to see him, as expected. As I motioned to buy him a drink, his crew gave me the cut off signal, and a waitress came up to me and told me he had already been cut off, and he earlier threw up in the corner. I wonder what the dream meant, other than I’m just a weird Bronco fan that should find a new hobby? Go Broncos!
The super scientific simulation went poorly. Very, very poorly. It sucked.
I actually think the game will go well, though….depending on your end game. By well, I think Denver is going to kick the living shit out of them. Like, really work out some pent up frustrations and shit.
This is the game to do it. Miami is the worst team left on the schedule by far. Indy has less talent, but they play hard every week.
Super excited to see JC for three plays instead of Henderson. Why carry a rookie RB for an entire season if you’re not going to play him?
I suppose maybe VJ feels like his job is on the line.
Live stream for today’s game
There’s the break we needed, let’s shut em down now.
The Dolphins are looking like a great team so far!
Positives we can build on!
Ice T 28-30 478 6
Put the bong down…..
I got all the angst out of my system. Now its just rainbows, lollipops and fairy tail endings 24/7
Oh good he caught it at the 10 yard line. I’m gonna start calling that “The Denver Touchback”.
Like the running game so far
KC killing the Jets.
PI and Personal Foul
This is how their defense plays.
What a fuck up!
Running the ball with ease, so why not go ahead and pass?
And Connor McGovern looking very good while pulling on run plays.
Deja Vu all over again.
Ball was off target, why it was tipped
How was it off target? It was right in front of him, chest high.
Defensive Back was all over him. It’s bad luck, but it’s on Siemian too. Same as Lynch’s pick. Bad luck, but on the QB as well.
Bad News Broncos..
That’s it for me, fellas. As much as I want them to tank and get the highest possible pick, I can’t actually watch this shit.
They just setting up Roby’s pick six.
He almost got one.
Here it comes.
Did Siemian throw an INT?
Naturally. Well, that’s what I expect from Captain Garbage Time.
A question that you already knew the answer to. 🙂
Ya. Tipped off Sanders hands but threw to a covered receiver.
the answer was “yes” before the game started.
Yeah I can’t even get mad anymore this season is such a dumpster fire we might as well get the best draft pick possible.
This is my thinking as well.
Sit down, Jay.
McKenzie is killing it today
What’s funny is that Siemian won’t be blamed for the INT, but if Lynch threw that, he would be crucified by everybody.
No. Lynch would never make that throw as it traveled more than 4 yards downfield.
Pretty sure Stink just let all viewers know the INT was on Siemian.
Huh? If anything it goes the other way.
It’s whoever you are a fan of. If you are a Lynch fan you’ll blame the pick on Siemian. If you are a Siemian fan you’ll chock it up to bad luck.
Which is frustrating to those of us who don’t care about who, we just want the best player back there.
Let’s be honest. 2018 starting QB is not on current roster.
The old fair catch inside the ten punt return
Harris. A bright spot in an otherwise disappointing season.
Two cleanly fielded punts by Isaiah McKenzie thus far today. #moralvictories
Is Taylor under the weather? Or just saying f it MacKenzie get us a better draft pick?
Or the see what you have with McKenzie. Potential is there.
Coaches don’t seem high on Taylor.
What was it like when Denver didnt always start pinned inside the 20? Anybody that old?
‘Twas a time of sheer wonder, splendor, and delight.
Dodged a safety.
Spoke too soon
But gave it right back.
I’m running out of patience waiting for Vance Joseph’s remarkable leadership to start showing itself on the football field.
I have a hard time blaming Vance for that grand mal piss shiver of a snap.
I was referring to the overall ineptitude of the team.
Good play by TS
Ha that’s what it’s come to for this squad. What a mess…
You live for and relish these moments, Rico.
Our first half highlight!
Fitting the way this season has gone.
Paradis thought Lynch was back there.
At least it’s not the Super Bowl.
So, anyway, this Quenton Nelson looks pretty good.
If we have Luck. Otherwise, let’s get Mayfield.
It will cost the first rounder to get the Broken Ogre.
Oh yeah. Well, damn.
Mayfield is a douche. Cutler 2.0
But he would be our douche. Plus he caaaares!
Fair enough. I don’t know enough about him. Assuming you’d want a QB, who would you pick?
Just hard to wrap ones head around how hapless this offense is.
And our offense scores first!!
I’m starting to think the Broncos might actually be the worst team in the league, outside of the Browns.
I just said that to my son.
YoutubeTV is $35/month? No idea what it gets, but that is worse than cable.
Where I am (Twin Cities) cheapest cable package above just local channels is $54. Depending on channels, might actually be OK as that would be in between price of cable and SlingTV for me.
Looks like you get a few more channels with sling TV than youtube TV. Looked it up and you can have 6 accounts per membership, with up to 3 watching at once, while I believe only one person can watch Sling at once. Also, the unlimited DVR looks like an advantage of YoutubeTV
Yep, occasionally I’ll fire up sling and get blocked if kids are watching something. DVR might be nice, theres a few shows that used to be on Hulu but now can only watch live which I hate.
Sling + Netflix + Hulu + AmazonPrime is almost the same per month as cable but so much more content and watchable on-demand.
“They’ll review as they do all scoring plays” WTF are they gonna review? Either he’s down and it’s a safety or he’s not down and it’s a safety.
Shelby Harris has been the Penetrator thus far.
Shelby Harris has been another bright spot this year.
Harris coming to play!
Harris is ballin…..2nd TFL
Got away with PI.
Wow, a touchback…..excellent field position!
Roby will have a Top 5 CB phase. I hope its in Denver.
Three yard and a cloud of Booker
Virgil Green sighting.
Nice blitz pickup by Booker.
Did green wander out of bounds 5 yards before contact?
Fast 1st quarter.
Hopefully the rest of this season goes as fast.
Brady just tripped, through from 1 knee. No grounding called.
Left side of the line is looking better today than any other game.
Rockies 3, Marlins 2. Shades of 1993.
I know it won’t happen, but how fun would it be if they got into the Iron Giant Sweepstakes?
I think we should go for it. But we didn’t.
When was the last time we had a lead?
Maybe a month ago?
Looks like we lead for about 4 minutes in the Bengals game, and about 4 minutes in the Eagles game, and that’s it during the streak.
And no ties during the streak besides 0-0 ties.
That was just a straight shitty pass. Should’ve been an easy first down.
Again off target – led him too much
Seems like like maybe throwing something other than a slant on 3rd down might, you know, jazz things up a little. Maybe catch the other fellas snoozing or something.
Von does such a good job on the edge in the run game.
Underrated all around defender. Far superior to most other elite edge rushers.
I don’t think he’s underrated, but he is fun to watch.
Todd just be happy no pi
Chiefs choked up lead. Now tied with Jets.
Next, a pig flying…
He slipped trying to slam on the brakes for the underthrown ball, you momo.
Von looks out for game. Damn.
He was faking.
Hoping just a cramp.
He’s back out.
Glad I am wrong.
Julius “Can’t Block Giant Pussy” Thomas with a decent block on Von.
Stewart late coming over on the rotation…. Again.
Props to Stewart for not getting a personal foul when the Running back was completely vulnerable, yet still getting a hit on the guy.
And so it goes.
You knew this would happen. Nearly drafted him in daily.
Parks needs to just turn around.
Gee… Who would have guessed a TE scores a TD against us…..
Julius Thomas had to be motivated to show the Broncos fans something after he was run out of town.
He was ran out of town?
I would love to be run out of Denver that way!
All sorts of reports came out about how he quit on the team and was basically a giant pussy. Shannon Sharpe called him out and fans completely turned on him. Then his Dad responded which only added fuel to the fire.
I don’t really get JTs jones against Denver.
Seems like Denver worked out okay for him.
And JT scores on a Jay Cutler pass. This season officially sucks.
Signing Cutler was an option Elway should have explored.
Maybe he did and Jay said fuck off my arm is stronger than yours.
In other news, they chose Alabama over Ohio St for the last spot in the playoffs.
Defense really can’t complain too much this season… While they are certainly a superior unit, they give up a lot of long drives.
We’re going to get blown out by Miami….
BAD, BAD, BAD DECISION SIEMIAN!
Yeah, that one is 100% on Siemian.
Bad ball placement.
Decision okay…. Accuracy terrible
at least we know what needs to be done.
I’m starting to think maybe this isn’t our year.
You might be on to something!
Guess Derby gave them our milkshake.
Blown out in Miami.
Siemian may only be worth coming back as a backup based on his low cap figure.
Was there any doubt about that?
Well, based on how he is playing, I am debating whether he is worth a roster spot at this point.
Ah, I see.
No one we have at QB is worth a roster spot.
At QB, correct?
Yep edited. Damn autocorrect.
I’ll say it again. The production Kubiak and Dennison were able to squeeze out of this offense (a less talented roster) last year was remarkable.
But guys, remember when we had that lead???
Just run every down.
It’s almost like they should’ve been running the ball this whole time.
No excuse for not sticking with it, really should be running every down.
I would say we are going to be in a very realistic position to draft Baker Mayfield, or Lamar Jackson. At this rate, maybe even Rosen.
I like an athletic non-douche qb. Give me Jackson!
Mayfield does have a hint of douche in him, but he’s really accurate, mobile, and I like his enthusiasm.
Most QBs are douches. I like the way Mayfield plays.
Elway being one of the biggest.
I hope we solidify the line and a FA QB. Too many first round QB whiffs.
Our line does suck, but I’m done blaming them. This is a quarterback problem.
They’re both bad, agree. We need both, but regardless of Jackson, Rosen, whomever, we need a line to run and pass.
Toss coaching in the mix.
Maybe I’m delusional, but I really think that a stud right tackle would be a dramatic improvement for this line.
But until they address that, it won’t matter who’s behind center.
Nelson – Mayfield
Pardon my ignorance, who is Nelson?
A guard at Notre Dame
26 reps @ 225 as a high school senior. 40 pounds heavier and meaner now. Best player in the draft, IMO.
More Good News. The safety was an aborted play and not a turnover so we are only -18 in the TO margain.
Man, only three teams have posted worse season marks over the last four years.
I wonder if a team has ever had 3 QBs reach the 100 pass attempt mark in a single season. If Lynch plays 3 more games we might get there.
Wasn’t there a Montana/young/bono injury season?
Cleveland (of course) had three guys with at least 147 last year.
Bolles is gonna make the decision to pass on Ramczyk look very bad over the next decade.
Bolles has had a fine rookie season.
He has, but Ramczyk has been better, and looked to be the better player going into the draft. Factor in Bolles’ advanced age, and Ramczyk right now appears to be the clearly superior player.
Good lord. Blow the offense up completely.
So anyways, I went with the galaxy8 over pixel2. Discounted by $150 on Black Friday.
How you like it?
Hasn’t come in yet. Really looking forward to it.
That’s my boy.
Nice job CHj
Not an INT
Didn’t move though, so don’t think it can be overturned.
Denver will get fucked.
So, so far today, Todd Davis covered a guy successfully and Denver won a review. Its like ethe dayof miracles or something.
Like we’re going to get away with that this season.
Do you have inconclusive evidence? Yes, yes you do.
Will we get a border line call? OMG! It went our way!
Well, that was weird. Something went our way.
TS play fakes are just comically bad.
I’m not sure I’ve ever seen someone fake the wrong way so many times.
13 looks very much bad.
Great protection. Terrible pass
Just eye covering awful.
Way to capitalize on that turnover!
5 of 13/62 yards/2 int. Fuck this.
Yeah, I was in the opinion that TS was an acceptable backup…. I don’t think so if this continues.
Had time, over throws an open receiver. Anyways, no sense in beating a dead horse. I don’t think that anybody is on the Siemian/Aaron Rodgers lite train any longer.
Yes, there are something like a dozen pretty decent looking quarterbacks in this draft. Half of them will wind up sucking in the NFL.
Probably more than half.
I’d say if 3 are any good,that is a great class.
And I would be really happy drafting about six of them. I would rather just get the sure thing. Cousins is productive, tough and deeply committed to football. I don’t care if we have to overpay a little. We’re paying a much higher price right now.
Do we put in Brent at halftime?
If we were trying to win and have a spark, maybe. I think no though. Why worry about win?
I’m honestly surprised Trevor is shitting the bed. I had thought he might have a nice redemption game.
It’s incredibly disappointing to play this poorly against a defense that has allowed 177 points in the last five games.
As prone as he is to turning the ball over, you have to conclude he’s not good backup material either. He had a nice little garbage time run last week, but you can’t trust him to manage a game at this point. Just awful.
Man if you guys think I was tough on Siemian, Stink is just destroying him today.
Deservedly… This is bad as TS has been.
Worst game as a pro for sure.
Still time to turn it around.
Not his worst this season, but bottom 3 of his appearances.
Comparable to NYG…. Can’t think of any worse (no protection vs buffalo)
Nyg for sure. That was awful. Is buffalo the one with the two awful ints?
That’s the kind of throw that makes you wonder if he’s really right-handed. Ouch.
Remember this? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/37e0cedc9bd1a91b126e11da4d65ca502c5880685c6cc79b359ba29df675a1ea.jpg
I mean I like that McKenzie let that go, I just can’t figure why team others that were closer to endzone were fielded for fair catch.
Travis Kelce got loose against those excellent rookie safeties in NY for two touchdowns in the first three minutes, but they have him on lockdown since then. Nobody else on that offense is even good.
A JC sighting.
I’d rather see d Henderson.
Is it possible that Henderson flat out sucks in practice? So that it’s not even worth evaluating?
Then cut him. He’s a sixth round RB. Easily replaceable.
Once again, I am still safely ensconced in a foreign country where the Broncos are not on the TV and the hotel internet won’t stream anything longer than clips. So, I come into the hotel after a nice day walking around (4 hours ahead of Denver time) and fire up the CBS Gametracker. Then I check Thin Air to see if it has really been that bad.Sounds like it has been all that and worse.
Yep. Almost all the positive plays are negated back by penalties. The only bright side is that there are very few good plays.
Please set your phone down and go back to enjoying your vacation, Sir. Nothing to see here.
Are you kidding me with that throw?
Hate to be the guy calling for a coach In Year 1 but how does VJ survive this season?
With as bad as the player execution has been…. Don’t think we can evaluate VJ.
Similar roster executed much better with a different coaching staff…
I’m not sure the rosters are all that similar. The line was even worse and Siemian broke after two weeks this time. The defense finally cracked under the pressure.
Here was the major roster differences coming into camp. Are you saying the line was worst this year or last?
I think we’re worse. Okung and Bolles is a push for this season at least. Garcia has regressed. Paradis is getting bullrushed more this year. Leary is an upgrade for sure. Right tackle has continued to be a shit show. We inexplicably gutted our depth by sending off Sambrailo and Schofield and replacing them journeyman like Barbre. We’re on pace to allow more sacks. Three more and we’ll surpass last year’s total. I’m definitely taking the over on that one. We’re averaging more on the ground, but have a pathetic five rushing touchdowns, compared to 11 last season.
The major upshot of having back to back terrible lines is we took a promising young quarterback in Siemian and turned him into a shellshocked mess by exposing him to multiple cherry shots.
I think the performance has been worse (or about the same, better run blocking, worse pass blocking), but the talent level is higher.
I have guarded optimism. If we can even fix LG or RT, we’ll be much better off. I think you can work around one weak link, but two guys who can’t pass black are just going to kill you.
I think a strong RT would go a long way to improving things. I think Bolles is going to be much improved next year.
I thought the hip procedures would actually help Paradis because they were simple debridements. My knee debridement was a major relief. Maybe it cost him weight room time recovering, but seems underpowered this year. I think he bounces back strong in 2018. Not having a turnstyle to his left might help.
Player execution is part of the coaches job. That said, you can’t throw him out after one year. He should get another year to improve.
They’d won’t want to buy out the rest of his contract I’m guessing.
I’m a firm believer that coaching continuity breeds sustained success (though one could easily make the argument that that chicken comes before the egg or whatever) but if they lose out, I can’t see VJ keeping his job. You just cannot take a playoff-contending team and turn them into a laughingstock. If he inherited a previously bad team, you have to give him at least two years.
He’s got to go. This level of ineptitude requires a complete coaching housecleaning.
I disagree stink. Looked like a bs holding call at the end. Maybe for the action before that.
Going down kicking and screaming right? Lol
Omg you can’t throw that up and hope for a pi? Wtf? Why throw at all? Just kneel down, after 3 seconds.
best play design of the day. Roll out and throw it away.
Brock should start second half.
Why. He’s just as bad as the other guys.
Sure, if it’s a referendum on TS effectiveness, but it’s not. If you hair trigger to Os you may as well fire vj at half too.
not a bad idea
Don’t you play to win the game? TS has been Tebow level today.
Worse. Tebow would have some rushing yards at least.
You don’t throw the game, but no reason to pull out all the stop to win, right?
Sadly I think so…. Unless you want to see if TS can rally. But he looks rattled, and leaving him in May just wreck him more.
The only reason to put Oz in is if you want him on the team next year. I hope not.
Depends on his price. I’d take him for $2m over PL or TS at this point.
Worth noting all of Lynch’s 2018 salary and even a chunk of his 2019 salary is fully guaranteed.
Yes, but he doesn’t look like he’s worth a roster spot at any price.
If you can get him for that. He’s going to want more.
I think we really have a good shot at running the table. Injury riddled Washington will likely handle us next week. The Cousins/whoever-the-fuck-we-start duel looks like abig mismatch. The tight end revenge tour will continue with the Vernon Davis leg. The Jets and Colts lack talent, but they play hard every week. Kelce will set set us on fire in week 17.
Incredibly, they will be in Darnold/Rosen range.
As long as the Giants win a game. Although, technically, SF could still screw us with a trade. Those worthless fuckers can’t (or won’t) even beat the Bears.
Certainly possible..Im not seeing any bright spots but maybe Shelby Harris and he cant score 20 points.
Chiefs give up 2 minute drill TD. Losing at half.
In fantasy matchup news I have 4 guys active and opponent has 5. Im up 10-9. My team averages 130 points. I might score 50.
So, McGovern has been solid. Why in the world hasn’t he played to this point? Leary prefers LG. Another failure by this coaching staff.
Has he been? Hard to tell here without all 22. But a failure by coaching staff would be unsurprising.
Well, no sacks or pressures and strong running game point in that direction.
I just….watching this game is torture.
And Super-Fuck UGA.
I will forgive them for one of their running backs.
What a dynamic duo, Chubb and Michel.
I don’t think they’re going to be miss a beat with D’Andre Swift taking over as lead back next season.
Because their team beat my team, so I’m sad.
Rog…..my wife’s from Macon, happy wife at my house today.
Time for beers guys.
We should all be pulling for the Niners and Giants the rest of the way.
They’re a bunch of tanking cunts, though, aren’t they?
This is ridiculous. You finally get a decent pass out Siemian and Thomas drops it.
Every time they cut to VJ on the sideline he always looks utterly confused.
I like DT, but damn. Plays like that make me look at the money he’s making and think…
Cool play by Mia
Bring the house
I think we are helping Gase keep his job.
Simmons Is nickel corner?
I think I may be on to red zone channel if they score. Would hate to miss chance to watch professional football this weekend.
It’s worth noting Miami offense has been nothing special this year.
Just like the Bengals offense was one of the worst in the league.
This team has quit on our coaching staff. Just my opinion.
Josh McCown looks better than any QB on our team.
True. But mccown is top 10 in league this year.
With the Jets.
That thought has run through my head many times.
Jacoby brissett also better than al 3 qbs. Others?
I liked Brissett a lot, but thought he was a curious pick for New England and I’m not surprised they moved on from him.
I lobbied pretty hard for McCown instead of Sanchez prior to the 2016 season. But I also was a big proponent of the Paxton Lynch pick, so I’m not breaking my arm patting myself on the back.
A sack, a hold and a false start. Nice.
I’m almost to the gallows humor stage with these guys, Royal.
CJ is our whole offense today.
Fucking terrible. Just run the ball
Had Charles after chip block
I am just sitting here numbly.
Garcia is a really nice guy and a really terrible pass blocker.
Maybe the two conditions are linked somehow. I’m about ready to listen to Richie Incognito talk about my sister as long as he can stand in front of a rushing lineman, FFS.
Given part of the reason they drafted bolles is his attitude. Makes you wonder why they passed on incognito
Optics on Icognito we’re still too ugly.
To echo RSH, McGovern deserves a shot before they go shopping for a RG.
Works for me.
Olivio needs to be fired ASAP
About time for ST to join the party.
That’s the trifecta.
Hmm. Can we just fire olivo already?
Leave him in Miami, maybe a bus ticket
Fuck that he can catch an Uber
Worst fundamental team Ive ever watched.
VJ looks lost on the sideline.
That’s the same exact look he has had on every closeup during every game this season.
Well after week 3 and an undefeated preseason…yrp
It’s like Art Shell used to look like, people often wondered if he was ordering drive-thru or coaching an NFL team. How out of touch is he to say to sideline reporter that TS is his guy now matter what…?!
Sucks because we have players especially on D
Roby wants his option picked up.
A furtituous turnover for us. That never happens!
Notice how that long completion happened when they were in zone? Hmm.
Bad coaches never abandon their scheme even if it isn’t working.
Has Langley even been targeted today?
Brady going off on Joshatwack.
December 3, 2017
Haha!! This makes the Broncos situation almost bearable. Edit: McDaniels reminds me of me trying to restrain myself when my 4yo won’t follow my directions the 10th time I ask.
Josh has developed a bit of a boiler, hasn’t he?
Siemian is just not mobile enough for this line.
Held onto the ball too long.
Where should he have thrown it? The entire offense is tanking right now. The line is getting blown up, the recievers aren’t open, and the QB is turning into a head case. I’m honestly no longer sure who is worth keeping on that side of the ball.
CJ been ballin a little.
To be fair, few are 🙂
Unreal incompetence. Hard to fathom. Good thing we fired McCoy. Much cleaner offense now.
Dolphins could just run every play from here on in. We aren’t making a comeback.
I just want to see one Cutlerception. Please?
Thank you football gods.
Vance Joseph, in his final year as head coach.
Finally some offense.
At work so unfortunately (or fortunately?) not watching this monstrosity, but how do we feel about Cousins/Chad Kelly, and first 2 round Olinemen?
You had me at Cousins.
I don’t necessarily want to pick a lineman in round two. We have enough weaknesses in other areas to address and Cousins has demonstrated he can play effectively behind guys signed in the parking lot three hours before kickoff. Love Cousins and Nelson or McGlinchey, though.
I think there might be some high quality NT or 3-4 DE’s available in that high second round area.
We are looking at a major weakness up front if Wolfe decides he’s had enough.
There is the Jay Cutler Pick-Six that we have been waiting for! And that Justin Simmons guy sure sucks.
That should be a penalty on Miami for swatting the ball out of Simmons hands in the end zone
And it was
I was already typing it when the flag came out, but figured I’d just submit it anyway.
Correct – got the call
Reading all the comments about VJ looking clueless on the sideline reminds me of what Woody said about McCartney up in Boulder. Woody said he always looked like a guy wandering the sideline looking for lost coins.
Are we allowed to take the ball into that painted area like that?
Apparently. I thought for a second that’s why they threw the flag…
Lolz… can we ask Miami to run a play from the 2 for the 2 pt conversion attempt?
Jay Cutler doesn’t careeeeeeeeeee to chase Justin Simmons.
Was that delay of game on purpose?
They did, but it wasted the field position.
40 vs 25 maybe
Pop up kick to the 10 or 15 would have been a lot better than giving them the 39 for free. Insides kick was a Madden call, not a strategic call.
Mia avg start is their 43. Olivo unit is a disaster couoled with a QB nightmare and minus 18 TO ratio is hard to think we will win another game
Jets tied with KC
There’s that pick-six for 31 you were talking about Yahmule, him being capable of
Discipline is HS level
Delay on a kickoff. Never seen it before.
Our special teams coach is incredibly innovative.
Subtlety not a skill of this ST unit
Von Miller has been a demon against the run today.
Von still balling.
Rarely is gelatinous used as a complimentary descriptor.
Is Schlereth relentlessly critical of everybody, or does he save up a little special for Denverr?
He’s brutally honest, and he’s playing it up for TV.
He’s a just a tedious guy. Still despises Shanahan to this day.
But Cutler make sure a play. Was that zone again?
That was man. Broncos brought multiple rushers.
If I were on the bronco sideline I’d have shouldered stills on that play
He’s a punk apparently.
Well, the glimmer of hope was fun for the minute it lasted.
Hey, We’ve lead for a total of 12 minutes during the past 8 games. At least we haven’t lost any heartbreakers…
That was second running TD for the year for Miami.
Brandon Marshall defended that run about as poorly as possible.
Hes an arm tackler
Beat me to it.
Stew is past his. Buy/sell date.
He’s being asked to play out of his comfort role.
He got old so fast.
Why isn’t Kerr in?!
Men that large need rest
Taylor may not be a fa option.
Shitty Stat ‘O’ The Day
Miami’s 26 points is the second most they’ve scored in a game this season.
But their offense has only scored 19
Sloter could do this
You just had to go there
He could do this in practice or season..he outplayed thrse 3 qbs in preseason albeit against b teamers but we are b teamers
Peterman in for Taylor.
Stop the fight!
A lot of Broncos look like they want to be anywhere but on the field right now. Can’t say I blame them.
On the past two kicks, Fowler has blown his coverage by going straight at the returner from too far away.
Hey, you’re only taught to maintain lane discipline down the field when you’re 12. Maybe he forgot.
I was noticing that. Contain has been horrible on punt coverage.
Time to sign Kap.
For what? The season is lost.
For the hell of it.
Now would be a good time to have him audition for the job in live action. If he lives ’til the end of the season playing every down- and actually ignites the offense – he has the job.
Jesus, this is rough. I almost think I’d rather be listening to Linkin Park cutting myself right now, to see if I can still feel. #WeDidntTrySoHard
In the end, it doesn’t even matter.
We got em right where we want em
GET IT DONE ELWAY, draft a qb no 2 or 3
It would definitely make us competitive
At his peak Eli was barely above average, and we are well past his peak.
Who do you like sma?
Give me Kirk Cousins and a draft pick to develop.
That’s going to make for a crowded QB room, so Siemian and Osweiler are likely out. Chad Kelly and Paxton Lynch can compete for the #2/3 job with the rookie.
Theyre gone anyway
That’s expensive and hes young…id go for an older vet with the dp
I’m ok with agreeing to disagree.
We do need a vet to tide us over…not seeing ts or Brock back…lynch is all thumbs
Sweet! A wr reception!
Does anyone know if Taylor was benched or injured? Peterman has avoided picks, but he’s 3/9
I’ll text my Bills friend.
Hurt his knee on the first play of the game.
Dang. Gritted it out for a while.
Knee injury. Carted off
Stfu you fuckin stink STINK!
I didn’t hear what he said – but I wonder if he forgot that he was playing next to a All Pro Hall of Famer Gary Zimmerman at LT when he played in Denver. Plus Elway was his QB. Put those OL guys in front of Siemian – and you would see some different results. But then – he is yelling so he gets good ratings. What he actually feels may be different.
Miami’s average starting field position today is the Denver 43? Is this correct?
Sounds about right.
Was about 38 last I saw but collegiate numbers yes
Think VJ survives the yr guys?
Probably, but I don’t think it’s guaranteed he’ll be back next year.
If I had to peg Elway’s MO, I’d bet he either fires him a game or two before the end of the year, or during the offseason.
Think so too. Too far gone
He has shown today again that he is not a HC. Bad decisions. Needs more experience as a coordinator before being a HC again. He needs to go IMO.
I’m all for continuity. Don’t be like the Browns. Having said that, you need to know when you fucked up a hire and need to try again. Cut your losses early. This might be one of those times.
Really dumb decisions – such as the onside kick that early in the game that eventually resulted in a Miami TD. They should have made the Dolphins go the length of the field. Then the fake punt way back in the Buffalo game. It wasn’t even executed well.
I see the team unprepared and playing under their abilities. Especially the offense.
He’s got about the same chance of surviving as a fart in a windstorm.
You are hilarious!
Doesn’t matter unless we can get a proven, disciplinarian head coach.
Ben McAdoo might be available soon. Sorry – couldn’t resist….
When you fire your head coach frequently, pretty soon you only get to pick from the Ben McAdoo bin.
When we searched in 2010, John Fox was the only non-McAdoo choice we had, and we are damn lucky we were able to get him.
Check this out: Ben McAdoo was a Bronco fan growing up. I know because he used to work at the Y in my town 20 years ago (when he was in college) as a personal trainer. He was a nice guy back then, but I don’t think I would want him as HC.
I was joking. I agree – do not want him as HC. I don’t think I would want him anywhere near the locker room or the field.
A third down conversion. It’s a miracle!
49ers are gonna beat Chi. Not sure if that’s good or bad for us.
Bears have Bengals, Lions, Browns and Vikings left. Probably 1-3, but they’re probably Cleveland’s only chance to avoid 0-16, so they’ll be fired up for Fox and friends.
Just line up Cody Latimer at QB and run the option the rest of the game.
Miami loves the tip drill clinic the Broncos have provided
I haven’t heard Langely come up all day. Not sure if that is because he’s played less and the Coaches have given him more help, or because he’s playing better.
I thought Simmons was getting the nickel work…
Simmons is playing as 3rd corner and Parks and Stew as primary safeties. Simmons was on Stills on the TD…
Well damnit. Was hoping that was a bright spot but I guess not
Simmons is bright spot. He’s played well. Nice to see that kind of versatility.
He got burned on the last score but has been pretty solid otherwise.
Jeeze. We are literally, without pretense, getting blown the fuck out by Miami. Ugh.
After all, we are playing in Hard Rock Bottom Stadium.
It’s time to just scrap the QBs altogether and wildcat the offense. Something reminiscent of a 7th grade game plan.
Yup. No more passes the rest of the game.
Jordan Taylor ran that HS but hes inactive
Remember when people were talking about extending Siemian around here? Lol
I am seeing the game through the eyes of Dave Logan. I had a chance to watch the game with my Miami Dolphin friend – but thought I should stay home. Glad I did. Depressing enough to just listen.
I talked about going to this game with a friend. Glad I didn’t
They just did that???
Now I want to punch Adam Gase in the throat.
WTF. This is now into the total asshole realm.
Why? No worse than the Andy Reid jump pass. Plus better chance of Denver score with d on field!
Did the Dolphins really just kick it onside?! Pricks. But VJ/Olivo had no clue it was coming… both should be canned tonight.
Wow. No one respects us. An onside kick? The Dolphins are running onside kicks up 33 to 9?
Even weirder since it’s Gase against his former DC VJ.
On the TD, did Simmons get beat in man coverage? Did anyone see what happened?
THESE MOTHERFUCKERS ONSIDE KICKED UP 33-9. SUCK MY MOTHERFUCKING DICK, GASE.
Tell us how you really feel????????
Brian will you it was a good play tard sauce fuck..got his Cuntler jersey on today
Is he trying to stick it to Elway? Joseph?
Probably Elway since he did not get the head coaching job.
I am glad Shelby Harris did that. EFF YOU, JAY.
Need to bring all 11 on the punt
So they’re playing Simmons at CB instead of Langley?
Two Safeties in one game. Has to be another record.
The Rams actually recorded three in one game against the Giants. All in the third quarter.
Fred Dryer of the Rams got two in one game back in 73. I think they both came in the fourth quarter.
why is 84 on team?
WTF is MacKenzie playing today?!
THERE IT IS!
Uncle Rico where you at on the 84!?
Jesus Christ. Why is he even on the team at all.
Seeya to Olivo and McKenzie.
And VJ for allowing it. Fuckin dumb
And Elway for making it all happen?
You bet but I dont think he says who plays every Sunday but he deserves a lot of credit
McKenzie is explosive. Ball security can be taught. Tiki Barber changed his entire career trajectory by learning how to protect the ball.
Can better decision making and better instincts be taught?
This is like an early Saturday morning sports bloopers show from the 1980s all in one game.
That’s the look of a man (84) who knows he’s played his last game in a Bronco uniform.
I certainly hope so…..
Is surprised no one has punched him in the face.
Last game ever, maybe. PR is a commodity.
VJ and Olivio need to call Uber now, no room on the team jet for those 2…
He’s just too damn small and weak. Can’t hack it in NFL, sorry bud. Whoever keeps playing him VJ/Olivo should also be shown the door.
Field punt at 4. Lose yards. Fumble for the 6th time. Post resume on Indeed.
I worked with a few guys who used to play in the NFL. Always fun to see them describe their NFL experience on LinkedIn
I think many of us (I include myself) were hoping the Broncos would lose to secure a better draft pick. But you would have liked to have seen them put up at least a little bit of a fight. This team couldn’t beat the Browns.
Does Joseph survive the night?
I can’t see how. I don’t think they needed a win here, but an embarrassment does not work.
Long stretch of embarrassments going on right now too.
I think the PR safety is the singular play that encapsulates our season.
How about the over the head snap throwback safety!?
Let’s not lose sight of the fact that they cut Doss and Langley is so bad they have to play Simmons at CB.
I think it’s more because Simmons is pretty dang good.
Simmons, Gotsis, and Bolles at least appear to have been hits on draft picks.
I don’t mind giving Simmons a look in the slot/nickel role, but should probably give Langley the rest of the game for CHJ. Still need take on him
What I’m saying is, this is on Elway too.
Don’t you think the call to play Simmons at CB is VJ/Woods thinking they’re smart?!
And because Langley stinks. As a third round pick.
He chose this staff and has had a lot of draft misses not calling for his head, but he shares a lot of blame no doubt.
Why do people feel the need to say this. Of fucking course it’s also on Elway. He’s the GM. He hires the coaches, he signs free agents, and he makes the draft picks.
I really don’t understand the underlying narrative that Elway doesn’t realize this is his responsibility. I guess folks would feel better if he was constantly tweeting about his screw ups?
He created that narrative. but yeah, they’re playing way better since that pep talk.
How did he create the narrative?
My only solace today. 🙁
84 still receiving punts. unfucking real.
Why are we playing Jamaal Charles in garbage time?
Exactly why they signed him!
They have no plans of keeping him around. I think it may be CJ, Booker, and De’Angelo Henderson next year. They’ll probably draft one too, and if they like the pick enough CJ will get cut.
But why in garbage time? Makes no sense. They should just waive him at this time.
Maybe, but they’d still have to write him the checks.
Chiefs self destructing.
Chargers are going to win the AFC West.
That is not a fantastic accomplishment it sounds like
Good. Tired of those fuckers drafting in the teens or lower.
Followed by a one and done in the playoff, with Rivers retiring from frustration.
Sounds great thanks for the update
Marcus peters threw a flag into the stands. Apparently refs don’t have spare flags…
John still with the chewing tobacco.
Ugh. I have nightmares from when I chewed.
He’s been doing it for over 40 years now.
He used to have fat ass dips in when he would be on the Denver huddle. He would also have like three or four beers.
Crazy I did for a few years when I was 18 or so and my stomach was hurting enough to quit for life cold turkey.
I lasted about 20 seconds when I did my first chew. Spit it out.
Same story with most people.
Thanks. I thought I was a wimp.
Harbaugh and Darnold would soothe the pain of this season.
I realized it was a rhetorical question right about the time I hit post.
Why not get Charles involved earlier in the game?
We should try to get an AMA with Vance Joseph so we can get all these questions answered.
Exactly some of the worst coaching ever. Poor fundamentals playing a guy like Charles in the fourth quarter garbage time. The other team is pulling their quarterback cuz they’re kicking your ass so hard and you have number 58 in there just waiting to pull a torn ACL in garbage time? It’s complete f****** Idiocracy
The football gods are mad at us.
CJ had 107 total yards today. One of the few bright spots.
Taking a timeout?! Even with Gase’s BS today this is wrong and embarrassing.
I say fuck Gase.
Adam Gase, you’re a pissy little bitch!
I lost a lot of respect for Gase for that bushleague decision. He and Joseph know each other of course, so I’ll wait to see how Joseph reacts before casting final judgment.
Not much you can say if you are Joseph.
Did he think we were going to fire Kubes coming off a Super Bowl win to keep him?
Gase left after 2014, not 2015.
Maybe he thought he deserved the job over Gary initially. I don’t think a rookie coach could have finessed a championship out of that team.
I am seeing more how Kubes did such an outstanding job getting a SB win with these guys.
He really handled the Peyton/Oz thing masterfully.
He just reeks of Josh McDaniels. I didn’t like the way he handled himself during some press conferences earlier this year either. I remember after last year I thought we should’ve kept him in the house. Not any more. I do think he will be a good head coach one day, though. He has some maturing to do.
He dumped a bunch of talent, ripped them publicly, then acted all vindicated when his team lost a bunch of game in a row. He can kiss the hairiest part of my ass.
He got rid of Ajaji (sp?) for a 4th round pick. What an idiot! Yeah – what Yahmule says about him is spot on!
Another TO… after the sack?! Ha, idiots.
I like it. Sends a message to Gase. Sends a message to the players.
What a horrible year to not be 9-7?!
Chiefs would have a 7-8 game losing streak of their own if not for us.
It’s kind of like 2011 except while everything went the Broncos’ way that year, everything’s going against them.
Honestly, I think Tebow would be running a better offense than what we are seeing right now. At least he didn’t turn the ball over as much, and his run threat would open up the running game.
Tebow at QB, zero passing attempts, Broncos win this game. That is sad.
Only good thing I can think of to add onto this is that these two teams both gave up over 30 points against each other…and they’re the Broncos’ final two home opponents. A chance to keep the non-shutout streak at home alive.
That was one awful pissing contest.
Do you think Joe Bucks facial hair are hair plugs too!?
You know he had an addiction
His confession was pretty funny to read. I actually met him in Cabo San Lucas one time. He was a really nice guy. Let us all take our pictures with him.
So how did his hair look up close? Asking for a friend…
It was before he came out and admitted the transplant thing, so I didn’t pay attention or, think to look. Obviously, if I met him now, it would be the first thing I would look for. It’s pretty noticeable on Hi- DEF.
Weird that anybody gets bad plugs anymore.
That would probably be true if he started now. I think he started getting transplants along time ago, back when they had much worse techniques, and his scalp turned into a science project. Bald men today can rejoice, that as a worst-case scenario, you can at least look like Nicolas Cage.
Wait. Hair transplantation is addictive?
My sincere well wishes to everybody who hung in there and watched this whole game.
It was rough, but we will get through this. We have had tremendous success and much tougher heartbreaks to endure as a fan base.
So, this is a contender for the worst game of the season. Not sure if it is worse than the Chargers shutout or not. But, as frustrating as this season has been, it is far from the worst some of us guys have seen…
One possible mitigating factor is that the Broncos are historically terrible in Miami. I think I had this marked as an L even back in the optimistic month of August.
Except for in 2011 😉
Oh I definitely had that marked as an L in August 2011.
So many improbable wins that year. I don’t think anybody thought we were going to win that game until the very last play. Watching John Elway growing up, I was able to witness some pretty crazy come back’s. I thought the 19 to 6 game against the Chiefs would always go down as one of the biggest. After the Bears game in 2011, I was compelled to go to church.
I was in Seattle with some friends when I watched that game, and I immediately recited Jules’s divine intervention speech when someone accused the Broncos of getting lucky.
Back then, I used to have a pretty big gathering of bronco friends that would all watch the game at my house on Sundays. After that game, we were all just speechless.
I think this is rock bottom. Miami is a terrible team. So much bumbling and football follies type crap in this game.
For some reason games like this aren’t too bad to take this year. Maybe it is the expectation, but you could tell we were going to lose early and you accept it. This year has just felt bad
I still haven’t accepted the loss to the Ravens in the 2012 playoffs and I don’t know that I ever will. Aside from being there, I think it hurts more when you know you can win and know you should win, but don’t.
When you get a beating like this you go numb early and ride it out.
One nice thing about this year is the last game will be on 12/31 of 2017. So 2018 gets a fresh start!
I had to take my Broncos’ flag inside after that performance. If there was a way to post it at half-mast in my btacket, I would have.
You need to put up a SB50 champs flag. That is good FOREVER!
I have one. I will fly it during the playoffs to remind me of the recent success.
There’s someone over in Torrance who’s had a 6’ Broncos logo mounted above his garage. Drove by yesterday and he’d taken it down for Christmas decorations. I got to think if our record were reversed, Santa wouldn’t have been able to grab the place of honor…
And the fucking Giants already looking for a soft place to lie down, the pricks.
Cam someone explain to me how dumb fuck doesn’t get ejected for this? Flying elbow into the back of a guy’s head while he’s on the ground and has no idea it’s coming? I hope his fucking knee explodes next week.
Maybe there will be a fine or suspension if the league reviews it. Intent looks to be there but a lot of time this is punished after the fact.
He has a long future in the WWE
I hope the Patriots and their fans get to experience a season like ours very soon. I hope that they get back to sucking like they did from 1989 to 1992.
Chris Harris – a guy who always comes to play – and play hard every play.
Anyone know the details of the acrimony between Elway and Gase?
If it exists (and we still have to be careful with that), the obvious answer is fallout over firing Fox.
I am sure Gase’s feelings were hurt when Elway hired Gary Kubiak instead of him as head coach.
I guess that explains why he had such kind words for Joseph this week but still felt the need to do that
Saints/Panthers way better game, but I have to watch some Geno series today.
90 years ago, they didn’t mince words if you sucked.
The Broncos Fan Base Today
Darkwing Duck ties it up.
What does he have to look forward to? A very healthy paycheck.
I did not see the game. How did Denver’s OL do today?
Bad. I thought they clearly missed Ron Leary, and his absence better damn well seal the deal on a 3rd round comp pick to make that absence worth it.
I thought McGovern showed promise in the run game. Not so good in pass protection. Stephenson sucked hard.
Do we need another missed game to lock up that 3rd round pick?
I’m guessing no, but I really have no way of guessing with high confidence until the regular season is over.
You should’ve just ended your sentence at “I did not see the game”, and been happy with your decision.
I thought the run blocking was strong the first couple of possessions. Fell apart after that.
This should become as cherished of a tradition as Red Wings fans throwing an octopus on the ice.
Gotta love the “I ain’t touching that” attitude of the chain gang guy.
Damn straight. No way of knowing how they smuggled that into the stadium.
Trigger alert for Yahmule.
Drew Brees goes through his progressions to perfection. No way he leaves the Big Easy.
Taysom Hill, one of the Saints’ backup quarterbacks, is balling on special teams today.
He was a pretty good baller at BYU.
Just couldn’t stay healthy.
Saints have a backup quarterback covering kickoffs. Haven’t seen that since Thiesmann was a rookie.
Dude. This is like the second or third time that we have simultaneously posted the same thought.
I feel like I’m keeping good company.
The Saints’ improvement this season should give John Elway reason for hope, reflection, and motivation.
Their 2017 draft haul might eventually measure up with some of the all time great Steeler, Niner or Cowboy drafts, IMO.
C-Mac for six.
Will Bortles play well enough to make the Jags pick up his option?
As long as we don’t sign him, I’m good.
Nitpick, but they already picked it up. They have to decide whether or not to cut him before the option becomes guaranteed. They’ll do a good job pissing away a comp pick opportunity if they do cut him.
Ah, thanks. I didn’t realize that.
My heart aches watching C-Mac and Kamara in this game.
So KC benched Revision today. Strong signing.
This explains Jamaal Charles’s garbage time touches today. I still hope to see De’Angelo Henderson active next Sunday.
Trevor also had a bad case of the flu.
Any bets on if Musgrave gets his second promotion within a month?
I think that it would be Studesville again, if a change is made.
I’d be okay with that.
Five flags on this punt return and they may all be for different penalties.
At this point of the season, I’m used to looking at standings, opponents schedules and tie breaking procedures to make the playoffs. It fucking sucks when you are doing that to try and see where in the top 5 your pick will be.
I’m going to the game next week with my sister (it’ll be her first game) and it sucks this is the context. God fucking damnit.
I went through this sad moment when I realized that one of my (supposed to be!) annual article series wouldn’t happen this season.
And what looked like a sure win months ago, will more than likely be a loss.
Who do you start at QB next week? For the first time maybe ever, I don’t even have an opinion. I guess throw Osweiler back out there and give him his 2nd chance
If Lynch is healthy, he starts.
If he’s not, [shrug symbol].
I hope PL is ready to go. Nothing else makes any sense – unless Elway talks the Giants into cutting Manning and having a go at him.
Have to agree. Lynch if healthy, pick either TS or Os for the rest of the year as the other guy and stick with it. I don’t think it matters at this point but we need Lynch to play if possible and then to play the other guy win or lose if Lynch isn’t ready. There is no need any more to go back and forth.
Probably Os. I think TS is broken beyond repair.
Whoever gives them the best chance to lose.
Jordan Taylor if that’s the case.
Are you sure? Seriously, could he do worse than what we saw today?
Dont think so
Dion Lewis is someone I hope is on the Broncos radar. No idea what kind of contract he would command.
Harris balled out today. Good find.
Harris will also only be earning his 2nd accrued season, so they can cheaply squat on him as an ERFA for 2018 and as an RFA for 2019. Great find.
Finding Harris makes the Walker pick more palatable, until I think about the players they could’ve had.
Yeah watching Kamara right now almost makes me cry.
JuJu, Dawkins, Kupp, Dalvin Tomlinson and so many more.
Best attitude possible…
So a little introspection from me:
Likely like many of you, I was very angry by 2 PM MT and not much in the mood to talk NFL. But by around 3:30, that all went away. Hell, I’ve been tweeting with Jason on some contract stuff as you can tell on my account. Thinking about it, I’m nowhere near as disappointed in the 2017 Broncos as I was in the 2010 Broncos. That year was far, far worse: a much greater lack in overall talent and much less stability in the front office. But now, they’re two years off a Super Bowl, the front office remains top tier, and there’s a wide talent base to improve upon. I’m far more optimistic now than then, and that must help as to why I’ve chilled out so quickly today.
Not sure we can say top tier front office anymore, with the RT signings, poor draft selections and mismanagement of the QB position. But I agree that this team has a lot of talent.
That just means you’ve successfully navigated the denial, anger, bartering, and depression stages. Yay!
The overall talent level on this team is far superior to what was left after Shanahan’s decline phase and whatever the fuck that was that Josh was doing.
It could be much, much worse.
People forget the Browns were 7-4 at one point in 2014.
I expected better out of Hue Jackson.
Hard to win when your management is deliberately tanking and running away from premium talent like its radioactive. When they traded away Wentz, they acquired, and traded away, picks that were used on Jack Conklin and DeShaun Watson. Wentz, Watson and Conklin are way better than anybody on Cleveland’s roster who isn’t recently off suspension.
One more thing and then I’ll shut up.
When Siemian targeted our WRs, he was 6/24. When he targeted backs and TEs he was 13/16 (3/3 on TEs, 10/13 on RBs). Draw what ever conclusions you want about what that means for play calling, game scenarios we were in, QB ability, their defensive scheme and WR/TE/RB abilities.
My conclusion: TS overthrew several open WRs and made even more inaccurate throws and bad decisions.
Last week he had great protection against the Raiders. Was Barbre sick? I thought sure they would keep him at RT.
I think there were some flat out drops that are on the WRs. Both Sanders and Thomas were having stone hands, and they also weren’t getting good separation. I’d say 75% bad throws by TS and 25% misses by the WRs.
His lack of accuracy was appalling. Any confidence I had in Siemian is gone. I really thought he was going to bring back the moxie in this game. I was worried about it being in Miami and about our defensive injuries, but thought ol’ Trev would come back in firing bullets. Instead, he kept hucking these ridiculous bombs that never hit their targets. Even the drops looked like they were off-target and challenging for the receivers, so I don’t really blame the WRs. Ugh.
I think a lot of those passes to the running backs and tight ends happened towards the end of the half and game when the defense was giving up the middle of the field so we would burn the clock.
Giants have nine first downs in the fourth quarter against that garbage Raider defense.
Our division seriously blows.
My hope is that whoever the division champ is gets depantsed by the likes of Baltimore or Tennessee and we Broncos fans can continue to point out that the Broncos are the most recent AFC West team to win a playoff game.
KC won one last year.
Not last year. In 2015 they did but last year lost to Pitt in the divisional round at KC. They were the #2 seed, so they skipped the wild card week.
I meant nine total for the game, but Engram just caught a touchdown to cut the Raider lead to 17-14.
The Giants wish that they were in the AFC West this season.
The Paxton Lynch lead Broncos had 3 last week through 3 quarters
Shame to see it wasted on such a sick loss.
Probably what you would expect on the game.
Miami CBs graded out very highly. Todd Davis and Adam Gotsis got high grades, along with the guys you’d expect.
Jaw dropping OMG
December 4, 2017
I’m rooting for the Seahawks tonight because I really don’t want the Eagles to be in an situation where they could end up sitting their starters against the Raiders if they’ve clinched the #1 seed by then.
Can’t root for the Seahawks….
I’m calling bullshit on “ever”. I’ll be rooting for them even harder when they play the AFC West rivals next year.
I suspect you like the hawks more than 99% of us here but even I may root for them against the AFC West. We’ll see how I feel next year.
It’d be nice to go back in time and see if early 1990s Broncos fans had these same kind of negative feelings against the 49ers.
I still can’t root for the 9’ers… that was a highly traumatic experience for my 12 yro self who just moved to the Bay Area that summer… It’s the main reason I’m still a Bronco’s fan and didn’t turn into a 9’ers fan..
Of course. Because as Joe got old, they suddenly had Steve Young playing awesome. They were annoyingly ridiculous. Though now, I’m ambivalent. But the Raiders, I still hate, of course.
I remember the leg whip the 49er’s FB used on Mecklenburg early on in the SB. No – I did not like the Niners in those years.
No, not like the giants and redskins. I knew we were way overmatched going into that drubbing.
It’s different with the Seabirds. Skins, Giants, 49ers were easier to get over. Dallas not so much, but their ordained NFL royalty status makes them easy to despise. But Seattle is in a category with the Patriots and Raiders.
Staying with ever… I don’t like being a position of pining for other teams to lose anyways I actually like to pull for the team just to win on its own my team
I’m pretty sure the Eagles could sit their starters and still beat the Raiders. Remember, Nick Foles threw 7 TD’s against them a few years ago!
Such a great memory. I still watch that and the monster day Doug Martin once had against them every now and then.
The Giants blatant tank job already bearing fruit. They jumped ahead of the Niners in the draft order today.
Browns, Giants. Darnold, Rosen.
After that, all bets are off.
I don’t fully understand how the Broncos are eliminated from AFC West contention, but I don’t care to find out either.
Broncos win out to 7-9. Raiders, Chiefs, and San Angeles all have 2-3 divisional games left, so there are at least three divisional wins to spread amongst them. In the unlikely chance they all get one divisional win, Denver loses on tie breakers.
Thanks for doing the work so I don’t have to.
You do more than enough around here 🙂
So…….youre telling me theres a chance!?
I have been saying this for months now.
Better answer is to fix the QB situation than to jettison proven WR talent, especially with no proven young talent behind them.
One of the many interesting storylines coming this offseason.
I’ll be bummed if they get rid of either one, but it could definitely happen.
I agree. There will be some QBs who could fill the bill during the offseason. Also with a high draft pick. They also need to give the QB time to throw or do his thing behind the line. At least 2 high picks or good FAs on OL guys.
We came out of one of the greatest WR drafts ever with Corey Lattimore.
If you’re Elway, do you start trying to extend Roby now?
Last week I said no. His play has still been too inconsistent at a premium pay position for my tastes.
Haha, I already knew where you stood. 🙂
Totally agree. Roby’s highs are high and lows are Atlantis.
If it follows previous events, it will go like this…lowball initial offer….hurt feelings…..media leaks……overpaying for talent you could have locked up if you left your ego at home.
He looked better today to me than he has in a bit and he also has 3 d Tds in his tenure only Talib has more i think
If I’m Elway, I wait until the market drives the price up, then try a last minute “hometown discount” type offer.
I’m likely not going to offer an opinion on coaching, but I hope that Kubiak will give Elway some insight on anything that may be going wrong in this department.
VJ is just lost in the job, he’s in way over his head. Didn’t even realize his team took a DOG penalty on onside kick, calling TOs with 11 and 4 seconds left in a blowout loss, dressing MacKenzie after Taylor did nothing but do his job. Plus an 8 game losing streak, which includes losses to 2 of the worst teams in the league. They are at the bottom.
They still have a chance to tie the McDumbfuck record of 4-12 though. This is uglier by the week..same feeling though I do think a QB changes everything
A QB and some protection for him.
A week ago I thought it would be incredibly foolish to fire Joseph. After getting blown out by a very shitty dolphins team I’m not exactly calling for his job but I’m certainly open to it now.
I would be more open to a change at head coach, if there were better options to choose from.
Ya that’s an issue, but he’s just way in over his head. Many guys make good position coaches or coordinators but fail at managing the whole enterprise. The team is sloppy, unprepared and undisciplined. After Browns they are worst team in the league.
If you are going to pay two head coaches, you better have a significant, long-term upgrade, especially the way this franchise is churning through coaches.
My main concern against making Joseph one and done is that it could lead Elway to develop a Steinbrenner like reputation for having an itchy trigger finger. But I’ll listen to good evidence arguing that he’s not suited for the job if it’s out there.
That reputation already exists. Joseph was probably the runner up for head coach and defensive coordinator in 2015. One of the reasons we picked him over Shanahan was because Kyle wanted more autonomy.
Elway wanted to fire Fox after the sluggish non-effort in Super Bowl 48, but he knew he couldn’t do it.
The Fox firing was insulated with the immediate Super Bowl win with Kubiak. Doubtful that insulation would exist now if he cans Joseph after one season.
Insulated from what? Fire?
Elway was extremely short-sighted in that assessment after SB 48. What did he expect with 5 defensive starters and his starting LT out? Plus Adam Gase insisted on pushing passing instead of running the hell out of the ball to keep the Seasquacks on their heels. Alex Gibbs lost that argument.
He IS in way over his head. Bad decisions: such as the onside kick in the 3rd qtr. Makes no sense. Not playing Taylor but playing McKenzie. This team is not a bad team IMO – it is simply very unprepared to play. They haven’t thought out the OL very well – especially when 2 good prospects are let go out the door – and we keep a guy like Stephenson. When a part of the team gets the air taken out of them after allowing a couple of TDs – that team is not prepared to play that day.
Not sure I have a solution that would work. There are former HCs who are coordinators in the league. I think for the immediate future – someone on the staff might have to run the team. Eric Studesville did a decent job in 2010 when McJedi was dismissed.
We could really use some more empirical data on what makes and doesn’t make a good coach. The people most qualified to comment (other coaches) are often loath to do so because they don’t want to call out one of their own profession.
I find the question pointless.
The best HC on the planet maybe milks 8-8 out of the shit sandwich VJ was dealt on offense. Maybe.
This ought to light up the NY sports media tomorrow.
How Rex Ryan has a job at ESPN while the likes of Ed Werder do not is beyond me.
Good for this guy. I am far too much of a tightwad to ever do something like this.
69 is a highly useful number, seems like it would be cheap enough to change the nameplate when things go better.
Don’t think it’s commentary. Family Guy reference. Made in China.
Ohhhh, gotcha. I have not watched much Family Guy.
You should fuckin hilarious
Two way ultra blue chip prospect Shohei Ohtani just snubbed the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets and Dodgers. Says he wants to play in a smaller market on the west coast. Mariner and Giants fans holding their breath right now.
Do the Giants qualify as a small market? I suppose perhaps smaller than the four teams you listed.
If you think of it as just San Francisco and don’t lump it with Oakland and San Jose like they typically do when measuring TV markets and the like.
ESPN doesn’t list LAD among teams that are out, though there is a line about preferring a smaller market (and on West coast for sure).
I wonder when the Dodgers payroll will become a consideration. They’re already 20% higher than the next closest team. Darvish is a free agent which complicates things for them.
Don’t think they’ll the re-sign Darvish after the WS meltdown. If they are gonna throw that kind of money at a SP, should look at Arrieta… just gets it done better in big games.
I don’t think the Dodgers will make decisions based on tiny sample sizes. Darvish has been a better and more consistent pitcher throughout his career. If there weren’t some durability concerns for Darvish, I wouldn’t even consider them as comps. Arrieta had a terrific season and a half and has been mostly bailed out by the Cubs stellar defense the last couple of seasons. His FIP of 4.16 last year and diminishing K/BB ratio is more indicative of his talent level than that out of the blue Cy Young season (when Grienke and Kershaw split the Dodger vote).
This is a pretty decent little article explaining how well Arrieta’s skills pair with those of his teammates. His BABIP on groundballs with the Cubs is absurdly low, which is partially due to his ability to limit hard contact and partially due to the Cubs having a really good defense.
San Diego fits that bill too…
The Padres are in a very slow rebuild. They been in the bottom of the league in payroll for a while and that won’t change soon since their best prospects are all still teenagers.
Look at Goff and Gurley this year vs last year. Scheme is huge.
Fisher wants back into the league. I can’t see it happening. The fan backlash would be enormous.
I would die a thousand deaths.
Ya that would be bad. I’d give Jim Schwartz a 2nd shot at HC though.
I think there’s a chance Denver gets Harbaugh and Luck.
No on Jim Schwartz. He is too tied to his Wide Nine scheme. That would require a major overhaul on defense.
Nah this defense is headed for an oveehaul anyhow
I don’t think the defense needs the same overhaul as the offense and special teams. A 3-4 still suits their pass rushers and best defensive player best.
Youll see… we don’t have pass-rushers anymore we have one maybe two…. and we definitely are able to play man-to-man all game like we were especially with Talib not even in the game
Our pass rushers never get to rush with a lead. The offense’s ineptitude and special teams blunders have killed this team in more than just their respective phases.
True but being able to brush the passer without a lead is what defines you as a pass rusher. With a lead is like having an advantage. Von Miller still getting it done but there’s definitely drop off without DeMarcus Ware on the other side. Don’t get me wrong I’m all about your point of view I just think that there will be a lot more changes than all of us think at this point
That would be nasty w harbaugh luck…id take schwartz in a heartbeat
Elway’s too savvy to hire that dinosaur. He hired an old school guy named Bob Beers as his first Arena League head coach, mainly because the old jock was friends with Jack back in the day. He regretted it immediately and said how awkward it was firing him a year later.
I’m not sure what our worst case scenario is if we dumped Joseph. I don’t think the Bowlen’s or Ellis or whoever calls the shots is going to pay Vance to do nothing for three years. We’re talking about swallowing about like nine million bucks.
When I say fan backlash, I mean fans of any and every NFL team would take to Twitter quickly and voice their displeasure. The game will eventually pass every coach if they stick around long enough, but showing up for press conferences and not knowing (or pretending not to know) the names of players on the team you’re playing that week is simply unacceptable. Especially if you’re greatest claim to fame is going 7-9 all the time and trolling Daniel Snyder on a coin flip.
Thank you for the link. Sums it up pretty well. Lip service is all we get.
That Gronk BS might be the dirtiest thing I’ve ever seen on a football field.
He’ll get his wrist slapped, but that should warrant a multiple game suspension.
Direct blow to the head of a guy on the ground? He should get 4 games.
EDIT: ok, 4 might be pushing it.
Sounds right to me. Probably won’t get anything. Martellus Bennett would be gone for the year and the subject of absolutely scathing opinion articles from every elderly sportswriter in America.
Reminded me of that cheap ass shot that bertuzzi put on moore and there were major repercussions for that for the victim. Unfortunately bertuzzi played again and went on with his coward ass life
That was more or less my final straw with the NHL. The whole league, including the Avalanche, basically circled the wagons to protect Bertuzzi and Steve Moore was treated like shit for having his career ended by an assault that would have gotten Bertuzzi sent to prison for 3-5 if it happened on the street.
I can’t agree more.
Damn, petty if true.
Agreed. But VJ shouldn’t have met that level by calling TOs with 11 and 4 seconds left down 33-9.
He should have gone the Todd Haley route with a finger pointing at midfield after the game.
What a cunt.
This wasn’t these guys first day in yellow windbreakers. You always tie up a Bills fan’s strong arm in a fight.
She looks like a keeper to me.
You play to win the game.
Anybody wound as tightly as this dude should be out on a field somewhere yelling at young people. Always felt weird to see him glowering into the camera on some post game show.