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According to his female friend he was just eating pizza. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c9e0dc49b59ea1d331f1c6563ddd9555261ff32c0d9dd89c8625d6c9c68d0ffb.png
Show that man the MONEY!!!
I think there was some money rolled up tightly next to the pizza in that video.
I hope he actually “got some”, instead of having to listen to some coked up, wannabe Instagram Model, talk about her dreams, and daddy issues all night.
The first comment on the deadspin article was “let he who does not cut up his parmesan cheese with a credit card cast the first stone.” Lol
A possible reunion with an old friend for CB #3?
Not if he wants the amount of money he seems to expect, and expects to start?
Sure, but will he get that money?
I loved him when he was here. He turns 32 in April
Talib made me forget DRC the way Sanders made me forget Decker.
And all three could be Broncos in 2018.
Me too! Maybe he could come back for a couple of years – if he can still move.
“The New Orleans Saints and the Denver Broncos are expected to be on the market in the next five years,”
Let’s hope Elway and friends are at the top of the buyer’s list.
Elway’s going to need some very, very rich friends–and one of those friends may be the one that wants to make the decisions at the top.
That makes me sad. We’ve been very fortunate with a non-meddling, stable, and sane ownership. The best we can hope for is it stays the same. Odds are, it’s going to be worse.
Michael Rubin will either be one of the best owners ever or a complete nightmare for the front office and coaching staff he hires.
This is BS. The Broncos will not be on the market. I don’t even know where he came up with that, just assuming Pat Bowlen passes during that time so the team will go up for sale? Maybe at least do some cursory digging before printing. Unbelievable. I hate “throw sh!t against the wall” “journalism”.
I’ve always believed one or more of Pat’s heirs will want to be cashed out, which is not an unreasonable position by any means.
Is that the main hang up? That some of the heirs want the cash?
I ask because I haven’t really paid attention to this side of things at all other than to wonder how much competence its requires to inherit an asset? It isn’t quantum physics to be born rich. It requires no special skill set or competence.
Most people legally entitled to, say, 11% of more than two billion dollars, don’t really trouble themselves with such things. Particularly when they’ve supped from silver spoons their whole lives.
I’m probably worried over nothing. The Blood of the City will do the honorable thing.
It looks like he was just pulled from a sauna, and was handed a “whip it”.
Man, does that guy look stoned.
And I know, from personal experience, of what I speak.
Every once in awhile I read rumblings about waiting out the Bowlen kids to see which will show ownership qualities and win the keys, so to speak.
I ain’t all that bright or competent, but I think I can I own a fucking football team. Maybe I wouldn’t own it well, but I could be shitty to JE and Ellis once a week and then work on my handicap the rest of the time.
This is a figurehead position at best and if they don’t actually own a controlling interest in the team once Pat dies. I just don’t see how this won’t end up in court unless a decision is made to sell.
I don’t think it’s a group-ownership deal with the kids, it’s one of them gets it. Realistically, a lot has to take place for one of his kids to take control, I don’t see it happening within five years. Truth be told, there’s not much incentive for the trust to name the next owner any time soon at all. I could see this taking 7-10 years easily. Again, the idea of the Broncos being on the open market in the next 5 years is laughable. Nicki Jahbvahla wrote a pretty in-depth article about this a couple months ago which is why I said this guy could’ve done at least a little cursory digging before printing this. Even a simple text to any of the local media would’ve led him to her article and he would’ve known better. Seriously, 60 seconds work.
The plan was for one of the kids to step forward while Pat was still alive and that hasn’t happened. I’m not sure other people in the organization aren’t somewhat ambivalent on this anyway. The long, uncertain and public vetting process is unconventional to say the least. Short of Pat willing the team to just one person, how would an asset like that be divided among various children and grandchildren upon his death? They will have already seen Uncle Bill cash out his 30%*. Jahbvahla is pretty naive to think none of those kids would prefer a few hundred million bucks to a relatively negligible, completely powerless share of the team.You think some of them won’t drag this into court? The best thing for Bronco fans would be for Pat to hang on in whatever state of life he now finds himself, which is a sad thing to think about.
*I’ve seen people say John Bowlen will have trouble unloading a non-voting share of the team, but they should research the way the odious Jeffery Loria gradually seized control of the Expos by buying minority shares. If someone like this gets Uncle Bill’s share, plus those of just 2-3 heirs, now you’ve got what essentially amounts to a hostile takeover.
I think it’s more “that hasn’t happened YET.” It certainly seems like Beth Bowlen would be closest to meeting the criteria, but Brittany looks like she’s the one most pursuing it. The fact that she is only 28 means this team could and likely will remain under the control of the trust for quite awhile. There’s no timetable for a handoff. I don’t think Jhabvala opined on what the kids would do so much as tried to lay out the criteria for transfer of ownership, none of which included the Broncos going on the open market. It’s going to be passed to one of the kids.
Wonder what the comp. was from SF?
According to the traditional trade chart, moving up from 5 to 2 would cost 5, 40, 71, 106 and 109.
Is that something you guys think the Giants would do, or do you think they’d want a future no. 1?
I’m guessing the front office would rather give up picks in future years.
Would be really hard if all we were left with was 99 (late 3rd) and picks in round 5 plus with all the holes we are looking to fill or improve
I’d prefer they not move up.
Oh, I don’t want them to either. Just looking at worst case scenarios.
It’s all the ultimate Catch 22, this QB shit.
Broncos fans mocked the Texans for what they did with Brock, and I’m not saying it was smart, but after years and years of poor qb play, I can understand why a team would make a desperate ploy.
Hopefully we solve our QB problems quickly, and we can go back to being smug assholes to teams without a QB
The day Elway becomes desperate is the day I hope he resigns.
Throwing money at a QB with a handful of starts is defensible but just barely. Mailing a contract and a check to said QB before meeting with him and finding out if the head coach actually wants that QB, is foolish and reckless beyond words.
I just come on here and sputter sometimes. You know, try to say something. Launch a sentence, then experience doubt and confusion, the head begins to ache, I change my position twice, then give up and post nothing.
I’ve done that a lot today.
I can’t wait for this quarterback shit to be over with.
Yakno, if there was only 1 QB worthy of a top 5 pick, it would be a steep price. If one QB stood out and was Andrew Luck sure-thing, it’s a steep price.
But when no matter how the board falls, Denver is going to have multiple options at #5 and all of them are good. Trading up is in fucking excusable. It would be trade up for Jarvis Moss* bad, trade next year’s first away bad. Unlike those trades, Denver likely gets a good player. A good player they could have had staying put, or an equally good player.
*The Jarvis Moss trade was vexing because not only did Moss bust, which should have been forseeable, multiple other options, like 2 or 3 safeties and Joe Staley, would have been available.
I would never advocate trading up under normal circumstances. But I’m also not comfortable with my team hoping for the best at the most vital position.
That said, I’d hate to be Elway right now. They have some serious quandaries to solve and that’s before even starting address the rest of the roster deficiencies.
They got themselves in a tough spot.
You’d never hate to be Elway.
Let’s face it.Me neither.
These are from last Wed, but implied odds are approximately 62 percent Vikings, 20 percent broncos, 13 percent Jets, 5 percent Cardinals
Nice interview with Talib. (Apologies if it’s a repeat.) https://www.denverpost.com/2018/03/10/aqib-talib-talks-leaving-denver-trade-los-angeles-rams/
The women in my life are 100% crushed by this.
I honestly didn’t know chicks dig him so much.
I mean, I knew my wife is pissed, my girls are, like, WTF?, and I just got done talking to my mom off the ledge ( which is really fucking ironic, because I’m on the ledge myself) who is fresh off of getting wound up by my niece.
I just never put Aqib Talib and ladies man together.
Gonna miss him.
Chicks dig him because he is gangster, but still really intelligent, with a good sense of humor. Looking like a human, Doberman Pinscher, helps as well.
I can attest to that. Chicks dig me because I am gangster too.
My wife certainly views him as the supreme alpha male of the whole team. She’s afraid they’re going to get treated like punks without him.
Like, he is so scary that he keeps the lid on the whole show stuff.
I think that was more so with Boss Ward, than with Talib. I’m pretty sure he was the leader. When he left, things started to dip.
Don’t ever leave us.
😀 ( emoji’s used to offend my sensibilities, but I’m getting lazy with technology and all that. Sorry.)
Reposting this because nothing had made me laugh harder this year.
March 9, 2018
He looks like all he did as hang out in the sun by the pool from when he was 2 years old until he was about 45 hen the doc told him he shouldn’t do that anymore.
Oh, that and he loved is haircut when he was 5 years old and hasn’t changed it since. Probably saves a lot on the bowl cut.
Possibly bad for the Broncos on two fronts:
1) she doesn’t list them
2) a visit might give Elway an edge over other GMs.
Not taking any visits? That’s odd unless he’s already decided where he’s going. Why would he not visit?
The timing really doesn’t’t work. Even teams that want him are not going to wait around while all the other options dry up. Peyton was released early so it was different.
Man video presentations.
I hope we have our interns hard at work making a dope ass promotional video. Call up Brandon Pena
Ha. He’s going to Minnesota. I expect we’ll find that out in about 24 hours.
I always wondered if the ‘05 Broncos were sort of a mirage of a lot of guys having career years at once, or if Shanny ruined the mojo by injecting Cutler. They were just kicking the shit out of opponents for about 10 weeks, there. ‘98 like dominance, then poof! Couple years later we’re at J McD.
I think the Vikes are treading on shaky ground.
I think plummer’s decline was inevitable when Kubiak took the job in Houston, and the offensive line was getting up there in age. It probably also helped that team didn’t have a single major injury, 22 guys had at least 13 starts, and 12 guys started all 16 games. You can’t beat that
Easily my favorite non-championship season. I loved everything about that particular team.
It was a great season for sure. A lot of my favorite broncos are on that team. I’d love to watch games/highlights from that year.
I recall entering that season with some sense of trepidation, so when they started rolling it was like totally unexpected fun.
Here’s a great one to get you started.
I had a feeling you’d help us out.
Watched the first quarter and will have to come back and watch the rest later.
Know it’s gonna be an enjoying game.
Always a great post.
Put it up every day, as far as I’m concerned.
Kubiak was the buffer between Shanny and Plummer. When that was gone – then it was head to head combat between the 2. Instead of drafting Cutler – Shanny needed to draft a dominating DE to replace Pryce or Courtney Browne who was injured – again. That is when the defense dropped off and – of course – when Plummer was benched in favor of the rookie – the offense went to hell as well.
I think you are right. With Cousins – I am thinking 10-6 or 9-7 for those guys.
Shanny ruined things by drafting Cutler instead of shoring up the defense and staying with Plummer and building around him.
Coyer ran a great scheme in ’05 and then got scape-goated which, along with Al Wilson’s injury, destroyed the defense. Coyer was running a blitz happy scheme and rolling all the coverage away from Champ. The blitzing made up for the anemic passrush, Champ locked down his side of the field, and Lynch/Wilson cleaned up anything underneath. This worked great up until Big Ben just dissected the scheme, hitting accurate passes into tight coverage and quickly dumping off to move the chains.
The scheme was great against mediocre/poor QBs… less effective against HOFers. Remember Brady did decently against us as well, with the big exception of Champ’s pick and 99yard return (and amazingly being run down from behind by Watson).
Wilson got hurt, and Lynch lost a second step making it really easy to avoid Champ and turn the dumpoffs into big gains. Cutler was a good pick IMO (offense was fine) and probably necessary because I don’t think Plummer was sustainable (and Cutler really was a decent QB). The team recognized the need to get more out of the 4 man passrush (leading to reaching for Moss the following year)…. but it just was shedding talent far faster than it was being replaced. It didn’t help that the post-Coyer DCs were just gawd-awful.
I floated the idea of CJ for James earlier–it would require Denver to cut Watson if they can.
I would be quite happy with that scenario.
IDK, do we really want to lose Watson?
Elementary, my dear.
James is an upgrade in that when he gets hurt we’ll actually miss him in the lineup. ;~)
Things are trending up for the Bills. Not only did they break their 17 year playoff streak, but they got back into playoffs just two months later!
That’s got to be a record.
I’ve noticed via my wife’s nonsensical campaign to discredit and lay bare all the faults of the Prez in front of her Facebook crowd that the Evangelicals have wieghed into the marijuana debate. Hard. I read one particular scree against the State of Colorado, basically accusing the entire populous of an ethical and moral affront against its youth. It was pretty angry stuff.
Anyway, maybe Colorado (and Denver) have been dead to the Cousins family from the start.
If I think too much about his off field persona it makes me mildly root for him to go somewhere else.
If I can overlook the fact that Elway would walk past 1000 Bronco fans to hug Donald Trump, Jr, I can tolerate another cult member quarterback.
If he goes to the Broncos I’ll be first in line to get my orange You Like That shirt.
I’ll tattoo his favorite bible verse on my biceps Kaepernick style.
I’d probably follow Mase’s jersey advice there and stick to retired Broncos.
Is Colorado Springs enough of a refuge?
I think if he views Colorado as some new age Sodom and Gomorrah we might be better off without him.
That reminds me, has anyone here watched the Italian show called Gomorrah about the modern day mob in Naples? It’s supposed to be quite good and nothing like the Godfather or the Sopranos.
I visited my local pot store this am. As I got out of my car, a family of 3 came out, with their black bag of herb. Mom and Dad looked to be in their 40s. Couldn’t see their daughter but Dad had a big grin on his face.
Moral: the family that bongs together smiles together.
(Daughter must have been 21 to get inside.)
It just never occurred to me that there was a moral issue attached to marijuana. I get the ethical debate entirely.
Hypocrisy befuddles me, I guess.
How are you distinguishing between moral and ethical? It’ll help me better understand the point you’re making.
I guess I associate morals with character and ethics with applied knowledge.
Maybe simpler put: Is it wrong v. Is it responsible?
Whether it is wrong or not doesn’t concern me. I can’t see why it would; at an intellectual or spiritual level. Nor is it my business.
However, was it wise to collectively dismiss another intoxicant as harmless with what we know about addiction and its many consequences? I think that is a huge ethical question, and though not politically, I am personally torn.
There’s a Duck Dynasty meme where the bearded redneck says “if you don’t like guns, don’t buy one. It’s that simple.”. I wish that demographic would apply the same logic to marijuana. And birth control. And gay marriage. Really it’s odd behavior for citizens of a free country.
Nothing hillbillies like more than being duped.
Sponsoring me into a multi level marketing business that rhymes with “scam way” when I was in college was one of the biggest favors my uncle did for me, although not for the reasons he expected. I got to see first hand how bible thumping and flag waving was used to con marks out of their money.
I heard many yarns spun but the biggest was from the guy at the top of the pyramid who “had an appointment in the World Trade Center on Sept 11, but god told me not to go, so I didn’t go, and that’s why I’m alive talking to you today”. Seems unlikely that someone based in North Carolina had a meeting in NYC, but not impossible. Still, I’d like to know more details, like who would be at the meeting, which tower, what floor, what was the meeting agenda, have you met before, and how did you make contact.
The obvious difference being someone else’s weed, birth control or marriage is unlikely to kill you. Kind of makes the endless going on about “freedoms” ring a touch hollow.
You have got to remember where you live, buddy
OK is on schedule to be a big Marijuana battleground, too. Medical is on the ballot, and last I saw ‘Yes’ was leading comfortably. This after OK surprisingly passed an initiative calling off the aggressive prosecution of misdemeanor drug possession in favor of diversion programs last year.
My point being, this is my first real exposure to the Rights’ marijuana tactics.
Not the first time I’ve seen the Broncos linked to these two RBs. How are these guys so bad about hiding their intentions? Also, please, please not another college workhorse with questionable speed.
Freeman would be a massive disappointment unless we got him late day three.
I guess I’d be OK with him in the fourth, but I’d feel a lot better about him starting in the fifth.
I feel like there will be backs on the board I like more in round four. He’s had a really nice career, but I just don’t see him getting to the edge in the NFL the way he did in the Pac-12.
I don’t want the Broncos to select him at all.
Even at 39 – Brees is still a very good QB. I would be happy to see him at the offensive throttle in Denver.
It’s obvious what’s gonna happen, right? Keenum and trade up for Allen. Because it’s the most damaging scenario in the short and long term.
Hopefully, Allen will be taken in the first four pick, with Denver not trading up to select him.
I am not a fan of Keenum but if his contract isn’t outrageous he may be an acceptable bridge to Allen.
I don’t think Allen will ever pan out, and trading up for him when this team has so many holes would be a huge mistake. If he’s there at 5, I wouldn’t like it, but it would be less damaging than trading up.
Well folks, I hate to be a downer, but I don’t think we are getting Cousins. We need to hope Elway has a very clear path to a Plan B before we lose out on a serviceable starter. I added desired salaries, not what I think their market value will be. My preference is as follows:
– Bridgewater : 6 – 8 million (games played escalators)
– Keenum : 16 million
– McCown : 6 million
– McCarron : 12-14 million
I think we should draft Baker Makerfield, and I don’t think we will have to trade up to get him. I’m sure things will start clearing up quickly, tomorrow.
Bridgewater and McCarron intruige me, but mostly for idealistic reasons. If they strike out on Cousins, I’ve got no real dog in the bridge QB fight other than don’t marry Keenum.
Agreed, Keenum would be a real bummer… especially if it’s at anywhere close to or even above $20M per like has been discussed. It’s very strange that Cousins isn’t planning to take any visits… that didn’t work out too well for Osweiler in Houston.
I don’t know. Denver has consistently been in the hunt throughout my football loving life. 40 years. Too me, that’d be a big selling point.
I kind of have my fingers crossed. A little. Still.
If Bridgewater’s medical checks out, that would be a steal. Also haven’t heard anything about his health recently.
Also, “Keenum outpaced Cousins in completion percentage (67.6 to 64.3), interception percentage (1.5 to 2.4) and passer rating (98.3 to 93.9), and he won more games (11 to seven).”
Assuming Cousins goes to Min, left needing a veteran QB is the Jets, the Broncos, the Cardinals, and the Bills. If you add Sam Bradford, that’s 5 veteran options, and only 4 teams in need of a veteran starting caliber QB. McCown could retire which would put more upward pressure on the market. On the other hand, a team could decide to not get in on the bidding, and go with lower tiered guys and rookies, putting downward pressure on the market. Still, none of the options are that great, and if two teams decide they like one option a lot more than another, a bidding war could emerge.
I will say I’m thankful the Chiefs decided to move on from Smith, the Arbitrator ruled in McCarron’s favor, and the Patriots traded Garoppolo rather than franchising and holding onto him for another year. If none of those three things happened, we’d be looking at 4 veteran options (Bridgewater, Keenum, McCown and Bradford) and 6 teams with a need (SF and WAS, in addition to those listed above). That could have really lead to a real crazy market.
Looks like the Keenum era is next