• The Color Orange

    The live action of the picture that Yahmule posted yesterday. It just never gets old.
    https://twitter.com/COSportsNut/status/960353252805001217

  • Carsonic

    Watched the game this morning. Then read the game thread here. For pure enjoyment, the thread wins, hands down.

    Don’t get me wrong, it was fun to watch a talented, well-coached, disciplined, and smart team do what it took to beat the Patriots. And there was a feeling of contentment – as though the universe is starting to return to a sense of order – watching Brady and Co. wander, dumbstruck, through the celebrations of their opponents. But there was no real joy until I started scrolling through the comments here, laughing and nodding my head at the passionate, thoughtful, and hilarious comments. This is a great community, and I really appreciate all of you who regularly contribute. It has been such a pleasure getting to feel like I know the minds behind the names, and I look forward to sharing joy with you all in the years to come. Especially next year when we teach those Eagles what Defense really looks like.

    Go Broncos!!

    • Alaskan

      And it will be even better if Rhett returns after his year off. I’d like to see Dubs back too.
      Maybe some of you tweeters out there could beg them for us.

  • Nick
    • I mean…

    • Yahmule

      Shitty position to be in. Publicly criticize the guy who hired you or give mealy mouthed non-answers.

  • Nick

    Mary Kay Cabot thinks the Browns don’t want to spend big money on Cousins, even though they could definitely afford it.

    https://twitter.com/MaryKayCabot/status/959924737043558401

  • InSiemianWeTrust

    What a great fucking morning!

  • Jeremy

    Im glad a very pro analytics team won it all and I hope the rest of the league (especially the Broncos) takes note.

    • PiperAR

      Salary cap management is a form of economics. How to allocate limited resources, how to navigate markets. Elway should hire an economist about that. Any idea where to find one? Does Stanford have an economics program?

    • Nick

      I’m asking this mostly out of honest ignorance: what makes the Eagles “pro analytics”?

      • Jeremy

        This article is what opened me up to it. It seemed they were really embracing analytics and going beyond just the “should we go for it on 4th down” and using it for defensive situations. I’ve always wondered why offenses seemed to suddenly play so much better in close games at the end, and it seems the Eagles tried to use an analytical approach to make sure your defense was still in the most optimal position. While their execution deserves a lot of credit, they very much won the battles at the end of the halves all season and in the super bowl.

        http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/266982/eagles-secret-weapon-an-analytics-fueled-attack

        Maybe I put too much stock into one article, but it seemed legit to me.

        • Nick

          OK, so it’s more coaching than front office, that makes sense from the little of the Eagles that I’ve watched.

          I still need to dust off that 4th down program I tried to make to see if it passes muster.

  • bradley

    Malcolm Butler, teammates, and coaches have different stories why he didn’t play in the Super Bowl

    https://www.patspulpit.com/2018/2/5/16972604/malcolm-butler-teammates-coaches-have-different-stories-why-didnt-play-super-bowl-eagles-2018

    • Jeremy

      Im guessing he’s gone this off season haha. I wonder how much this will cost him on the market.

      • Nick

        That’s a real good question. The Patriots will want to hope someone sinks at least $9M APY so they can get a 3rd round comp pick for him.

    • this is a really weird deal. The dude started 47 games over the past 3 seasons for the Pats, and they bench him in the SB – not only bench him, but don’t play him in a game where they gave up 374 yards and 3 TD passes to a back-up QB.

      • And played guys like Jordan Richards ahead of him and were forced to cover the slot with a safety at times. If there was a legitimate reason it would have come out, seems like it was contract related/rubbed BB the wrong way… and Belichick’s ego cost them this time.

        • that sure sounds like it… if Belichick can show he can win a superbowl with Butler on the sidelines, why would he want to break the bank to pay the man?

    • QDoc

      Something obviously happened. Violation of team rules, or pissed off the Sith Lord somehow… but you know something went down.

    • Laces Out

      Cloak and dagger motherfuckers fucked themselves…Butler can play

      • Sparks

        If the Broncos move on from Talib for whatever reason, they should reach into the ex-Patriots CB’s bag again and try to get Butler.

    • Yahmule

      This was great.

      February 5, 2018

  • Random Anonymous Coward
  • Hercules_Rockefeller

    The two touchdowns that were upheld last night should serve as great examples to the competition committee when the look at the catch rule in the off-season. On the first one, they didn’t quite follow the rules 100% down to the letter of the rule, but they ruled it correctly in the sense that it was clearly a catch. The second was ruled correctly in both the common sense and the “letter of the law” contexts, but illustrates the risk with the current rule because the issue wasn’t that he had possession of the ball, but how long he had possession of the ball. That play is literally one step away from the Jesse James play.

    The answer in my opinion is to define posession as something that happens instantaneously as opposed to a “process”. The receiver either has possession of the ball at a given moment in time or he doesn’t; the “process” of possessing the ball creates a third state in which the receiver is both in possession and not in possession of the ball for an vaguely defined timeframe (quantum football!). Under my rule if you have posession and get two down inbounds or get the ball across the plane it’s instantaneously a catch.

    • Carsonic

      I was wondering what others thought about that first catch. I was just thinking about the letter when I saw it and was completely surprised when it wasn’t overturned. But you make a great point about what a catch should be and I really hope the league clears things up in the direction you’re suggesting.

      • Agreed, it was inconsistent with how they’ve called the play the past under the same rule but it was a great throw and catch so glad it was upheld.

        • Hercules_Rockefeller

          That was my feeling as well. If I had to speculate the refs probably didn’t want to make an overly technical call that would have confused and alienated the vast majority of the viewing audience, since there are so many people who aren’t hard core fans watching the super bowl. That’s the right call in my opinion even though it conflicts with the rule in a technical sense. When the rule is too complicated to apply on the game’s biggest stage, that’s a broken rule.

      • Laces Out

        Pretty sure they swept that one under the ol couldn’t overturn the call on the field rug…i.e. tjis is an international stage lets not job these guys again

    • The second one never should have gone to review, a complete waste of time. Ertz caught the ball was running and was tackled low which caused him to dive/go to the ground.

      • Carsonic

        Agree, except that all scoring plays are reviewed automatically, right?

        • Yes, they are all reviewed/confirmed. But in this case the game was stopped and Big Gene went over to the Surface and put on the headset to discuss with Al Riveron.

          • Carsonic

            Oh, OK, I skipped through a lot of stuff, and since it was clear to me that it was a catch, I must have fast-forwarded past that discussion.

      • Laces Out

        Funny how the Steelers call probably contributed to this one getting called right…that long arm of justice reached into the SB

    • Laces Out

      Cmon, This doesn’t need to be law hair spliiting. Everyone knows in 4th grade on the school yard field what catch is. Both calls last night were right on….give the ref his balls back and let him make that call

      • Hercules_Rockefeller

        That’s what simplifying the rule would do. There would still be occasions where it’s so close it’s just a judgement call, but with today’s picture quality that’s going to be very rare. I’ll accept some calls coming down to a judgement call instead of trying to craft the “perfect” rule, which ends up affecting calls that would be easy under an imperfect but simple rule

    • here’s my solution: no more replay to determine if a catch is a catch. Let the refs make that determination in real time, like they did in the old days. so what if the ball wiggles a little bit when the player hits the ground – it’s a catch.

      Instant replay is what is ruining this, not the legaleze of defining a catch.

      • Jason

        I disagree. I’ve got no issues with instant replay, but the indecision on what is a catch and how to apply it correctly is silly.

      • Holzy

        I agree; instant replay just slows the game down, and there’s still controversy about the calls. Get rid of it and get on with the damn game.

      • Drewredux

        What is funny is that the consistently inconsistent work of NFL back and field judges in interpreting interference and defensive holding changes more games than the bang-bang plays that brought about this iteration of review.

        I realize its a tough job, but jeepers creepers, those asshats are in the show. Most of these crews can’t even be consistent from series to series, much less any fantastical period of time longer than that.

        • Hercules_Rockefeller

          I think the bang bang plays are much less of an issue with HD and super slow motion than they were when this all started (the first mention of “completing the process” of the catch goes back to the 90s). And there’s no reason they couldn’t say that if they can’t determine which happened first on a “bang bang” play, it’s just not a catch. (Or the ruling on the field stands)

      • Nick

        I would just limit it to removing the “going to the ground” part from instant replay. That’s proving to be a judgment call that’s getting impractical to be definitive on. Control and two feet down are clearer parts that can still be kept subject to replay.

        • that’s fair.

        • Hercules_Rockefeller

          Agreed, but defining posession as something that happens instantaneously covers the going to the ground issue, and also eliminates the weird “football move” thing as well. It would also eliminate the discrepancy in howthe goal line is treated for runners and receivers, since the receiver becomes a runner as soon as the second foot is down.

    • Drewredux

      I swear to whatever that if they had taken away the second TD, I’d be done. Adios, NFL.

    • PiperAR

      IMO the rule should be that if the replay is inconclusive, the offense gets the catch. Or place a higher standard on the offense and it must clearly be a catch, else incomplete.

      • cjfarls

        I don’t know that it needs to default to the offense… but it should default to the call on the field. Unless its very clearly something that only can be seen via replay (e.g. the ball being loose and using the ground to regain control), overturning the field calls on these is mostly BS.

        I also don’t think such things should be automatically reviewed… if there is a question, make the opposing coach risk their timeout.

  • QDoc

    Listening to a Pats-fan co-worker of mine bitch about how the calls didn’t go their way (and never go their way because the League hates them). It’s sort of amusing but mostly nauseating. I’m giving him about 30 more seconds before I have to pimp-slap his ass with some empirical data.

    • T. Jensen

      Gronk got called for false start in the first half and they mentioned it was the first offensive penalty this post season. Let that sink in.

      • it’s absolutely amazing how much the refs let him get away with pushing off, and how tight the Pats CB’s have been historically allowed to play. For a team that prides itself on stepping close to the line, the lack of calls against them is really weird.

        • QDoc

          EXACTLY. it was said in the thread last night, but if you took away all of Gronk’s push-off receptions, he would only have about half of what he does.

          • T. Jensen

            Wait are you implying that Gronk pushes off in order to beab defenders?

        • Laces Out

          PS they dont hold at all to keep Bitchmade Brady clean

    • speaking of missed calls – I haven’t heard any chatter about the patriot LB hitting (I think it was) Clement on the last 2 point attempt. The dude clearly contacted the receiver before the ball got there, and he never turned around to look for the ball. As clear a case of PI as I have ever seen… no flag.

      • Laces Out

        Van Noy and yes he wasn’t looking AND got there early

        • yeah, that’s the guy. It ended up being inconsequential, but could have been HUGE had the game ended differently. No mention on the broadcast.

          • Drewredux

            Everytime a Pat got shoved a little hard, I thought I heard a part of Al Michaels die a little.

        • QDoc

          Typical for a BYU guy…

        • Drewredux

          Kyle Van Noy is why I ultimately bailed forever on MHR. That draft season, in particular, made it clear I could get better football analysis/insight by hocking up and “reading” my own loogies.

          • Jason

            There are many reasons to bail on MHR.

        • Jason

          It wasn’t subtle was it?

    • PiperAR

      Well that’s depressing. Football is just football. But it’s the same part of human nature that a third of the people in this country think Their President is a saint and the opposition is a dirty crook that ought be in jail.

      IDK how I can make it to 2021 (or 2025 shudder) without becoming an addict or suicidal.

    • bradley

      FWIW … the Patriots were penalized once. The Eagles were flagged six times.

  • QDoc

    Gronk: I lost… so now I am gonna pout, and pull a Ben and whine about my future, just to get more attention.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/patriots-rob-gronkowski-asked-retiring-says-im-going-look-future-042237115.html

    • T. Jensen

      His retirement would make me so happy. To bad he’s full of sish and just wante attention

    • Yahmule

      I heard he’s going to spend the off season studying to see if he can improve on the 0 he scored on the Wonderlic.

    • Nick

      It’s his choice to make, of course, but if he did retire he would have to write the Pats a $4 million check.

      • QDoc

        We could probably start a GoFundMe and pay it for him….

    • FloydLittle44

      He definitely could have a career in acting

  • QDoc
    • Yahmule

      He’ll drastically reduce his chances of getting head coaching offers in the future if he embarrasses them this way.

      • I am shocked he’s getting this chance – listening to him in interviews this week… seriously doubt he’s changed much. No way he’ll ever get another shot if he stiffs the Colts. His agent appears to have gotten that message through as the reports now are that he’ll inform the Pats he’s leaving this AM and be in Indy later this week for the press conf.

      • Nick

        If he does do this, I’ll be more convinced that he’s aiming to be the Patriots head coach in waiting.

        If so, then it would be hilarious if Kraft passes him over after Belichick retires.

    • FloydLittle44

      I hope not, they deserve each other.

  • Sparks

    So, I was up all night racking my brain on how forgiving the football gods are. Wonder if they’ll really want my left testicle after yesterdays answer to my prayers? I’m really worried how I’ll live with neither testicle when Brady hits that QB cliff and plunges over next year.

    • Laces Out

      Hilarious…I had a little remorse for rooting so hard for someone to fail… them I realized I still have em both, and the Taintriots stole most their glory… fuck them.

      I hope spy McDickface drives that franchise into the ground with Brady in the golden yrs after Belicheat gets the short straw to Brady/Guerrero and now that the Colts entire up and down of their organization was fleeced of them.

      • Jason

        Was spittle flying as you typed that :^) ?

        • QDoc

          I felt it coming from my monitor as I was reading it… holy hell…

    • Drewredux

      When it comes to the humbling of the Pats, our own testicals are inconsiqential, dude. Anything for the cause!

    • Yahmule

      See, I just wish for him to shred his nutbag hopping a chain link fence while I stand there laughing and not calling paramedics with my perfectly unscathed balls.

  • The Color Orange
    • Yahmule

      Belichick was going to find the biggest creep on the market, that was a given. Schiano is going to be severely disappointed in the drop off in talent level between the defense he coached this year and the one he’ll get next year.

      • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

        Wasn’t Ben McAdoo available?

  • bradley
    • Jason

      That was a great play. 82 was open in the back of the end zone as well.

    • Yahmule

      He timed his release perfectly.

    • Carsonic

      That was a thing of beauty.

    • QDoc

      I saw that as a beautiful FU to the Pats, who tried that shit earlier and failed. That, to me, is what made it so perfect.

      • RSH

        I am sure that Dan Reeves was loving the trick play calls last night. For as conservative of a playcaller that he was, I did enjoy the gadget plays that he called from time-to-time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MizRPQT97JU

        • Yahmule

          Oh yeah, I completely drank that memory away by the end of the second quarter.

  • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

    Not sure if this was covered yesterday, but do we really want Kirk Cousins over Nick Foles?

    • Random Anonymous Coward

      Yes.

    • Yahmule

      Nick for 3/71 is workable, but I figure they wouldn’t let him go that cheap.

      • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

        I’m thinking if we can get him much cheaper than Cousins, it might be a better route to go, but if it’s even close in price I think I would still go Kirk.

        • Yahmule

          The APY will be less, but we would have to trade for him. No downside to having another viable arm on the market, though.

      • Royalwithcheese

        Dude would only cost $7M. I’d be mighty tempted to go get him and fill many of the remaining holes in FA.

        • Yahmule

          I think his contract is full of voidable years unless they negotiate an extension fairly soon. I’ll wait for Nick to tell me what I mean.

      • FloydLittle44

        Why waste a 3rd. Foles + Pederson = Chamionship. Foles + Joseph = squat.

        BTW was had Ajayi for a 4th.

        • Yahmule

          I see. Didn’t realize Doug had such godlike powers.

          Not sure what Ajayi has to do with anything. He nearly cost them huge last night by ignoring a blitzer on a crucial down. I’m pretty sure they could have brought back Wilbert Montgomery and gained yards on that defense.

          • RSH

            Or Heath Sherman—a Tecmo Bowl favorite of mine.

    • Drewredux

      I’m feeling pretty smug. I had an embarrassingly long snit over Oz (I swear I couldn’t help myself, it just really annoyed me, you know, for a long time….anywhoo…).

      Anyway, now the Broncos want to pay one of my alternatives the GNP of Lithuania and the other is going to fucking Disneyland.

      (I know, even a blind squirrel….)

    • Laces Out
    • Nick

      No. He only has one year left on the cheap but then you’d have to extend him for much more. Plus, given that he’s talked about wanting to be a pastor there’s a non-zero chance that he could pull a Jake Plummer if he doesn’t like the team he’s being traded to.

      I think a 5th rounder is the absolute max I’d give up for him, and I don’t expect the Eagles to give him up for that little.

  • The Color Orange
  • Yahmule

    Makes that 2012 Draft just a little more painful. The Broncos big regret that year was not getting Weeden.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVSMjCHU0AAU8Df.jpg

    • The Os pick made no sense to me. He wasn’t particularly good in college in the year he started. Foles was far better just an hour down I-10.

      • Drewredux

        It wasn’t even kinda close. In any respect whatsoever.

      • Tyler

        It obviously didn’t work out but I can get behind the logic. They just signed Manning, they didn’t need the prospect who looked most ready to start. They liked Brock’s tools better and probably thought given the time he would be spending on the bench they could develop him.

        • Drewredux

          That isn’t even how they sold it, though. They sold it as a natural mitigation of the unknown (the neck), which made it even more astonishingly mind-boggling.

          • Yahmule

            Dude! He played basketball at Gonzaga!* That means he’s athletic!

            * almost

          • Yahmule

            Paraphrased quote I heard coming out of my own stupid head after we drafted him.

    • Jeremy

      They didnt want weeden after they signed Manning. They wanted someone young to learn behind manning.

      • Yahmule

        The fact that a rookie wouldn’t have been young enough to sit the bench makes their draft plans that year read like an Onion article.

        • Jeremy

          Brandon weeden was 28.5 at the time of the draft, and would have been 32.5 when manning ended up retiring. Obviously osweiler didnt work out, but it was a tough situation to plan for

          • Yahmule

            Wanting to spend a high pick on a 29 year old rookie quarterback under any circumstances is stupid as shit. And Elway’s triumphant Manning press conference aside, that was most certainly Plan B. What did Weeden prove in those years away from football anyway? That he could quit at a high level?

          • Jeremy

            It is more than likely a pretty dark history if manning doesn’t sign with us.

          • Yahmule

            You never know. Maybe Weeden or Oz flames out and the Broncos draft Garoppolo a couple years later.

            Jimmy won 56K last night sitting on his ass.

    • QDoc

      I hear ya… we could have had BJ Coleman. Dude had mad skillz. F**kin’ Elway.

      • Yahmule
        • FloydLittle44

          Chandler Harnish?

          • Yahmule

            Mr Irrelevant. Looks a little like Mac from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia from the right angle. I enjoyed seeing Mac and Sweet Dee celebrating in the stands last night.

  • Laces Out
  • Drewredux

    Lest we forget:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/05/patrick-chung

    Once again, the evil empire seemed to recycle a concussed player rather than to follow the rules of the NFL and human decency.

    • oof. didn’t realize what happened there. Thought Chung had a typical injury that feels better after moving it around a little bit; didn’t realize he got his bell rung.

      • Drewredux

        Ajayji gave the lights out signal to the Pats sideline. Gave them the hurry-up. Maybe he was being dramatic, but wobbly Chung didn’t look like it.

    • pubkeeper

      That decision isn’t up to the team. It’s the league that is supposed to step in there.

      • Drewredux

        Lest we forget, the NFL concussion protocol seems to be a sham, then.

        If you are a minor depth player, you get the hook. If you are a key player, you are super resistant to the ill effects of the brain bruise.

        • Yahmule

          Yep. And as much as we all think we’re better, Bronco Country would lose their collective mind if Von got his helmet taken away during a Super Bowl.

    • FloydLittle44

      “A new study revealed that 99 percent of the brains former NFL players donated for research showed signs of chronic traumatic encephalopathy. The study, which was published Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association, is the largest of its kind to date.”

  • FloydLittle44

    The Eagles brilliantly utilized the particular skills and talent of individual players by making adjustments to their schemes. Most NFL coaches say they will and then revert to running their scheme without regard to the roster they have.

    What a joy that game was (especially the final slow knife twisting seconds of the Patriots season).

    Comparing the key player signings the Eagles made this year, which arguably set them up for the Super Bowl win, to the Broncos pathetic signings and (once again) draft; it seems clear that we aren’t on pace to be a Super Bowl contender.

  • Yahmule

    1151 yards of total offense and one punt in the game total and I see people saying this was arguably the best Super Bowl ever. Whatever.

    • I know so many people have said great game or best SB ever. It was good and entertaining but not a lick of defense until the Eagles last two series…

      • Random Anonymous Coward

        Not surprising. Eagles had 0 points all season in the last 2 minutes.

    • JMac

      Maybe not the best, but certainly entertaining… It would have been nice to see a few more sacks or other defensive plays, but I thoroughly enjoy the game.

      • Yahmule

        It was among the ten most exciting Super Bowls to be sure, but the game action itself had a 7 on 7 vibe to me.

        • Drewredux

          I have no idea what Philly was thinking defensively. 90% of NFL QBs could have prison raped that soft ass zone with no pressure. I couldn’t believe how wide open the Pats recievers were getting.

          They are very fortunate.

          • JMac

            Especially on 3rd downs! That was just frustrating to watch

        • Carsonic

          That’s a good way to describe it. The lack of tension that a powerful D brings to a game was really noticeable.

        • RSH

          Super Bowl LII had a video, park, or street game of football to it. I just kept thinking of old friend Rhett Rothberg stating, “are you not entertained?”

    • Sparks

      For me, the outcome certainly moved it up the ‘best SB’s of all times’ chart. I did find the game entertaining, and it really felt like a “whoever has the ball last will win” game. Fortunately, though, that didn’t happen. And there was intrigue and a couple of lead changes in the 4th quarter so at least it was competitive from that standpoint.
      But yes, there was really no defense, outside of a glorious sack at the 2:16 mark of the 4th.

    • Carsonic

      Great Super Bowls have great performances in at least 2 out of 3 phases (a well-known fact I just made up). This was just “can the Eagles keep their cool and avoid shooting themselves in the foot like other recent Pats opponents.” Impressive offense, sufficient D and ST.

      • Yahmule

        That was the key. Philly was the only team besides NY not to hand them the game on a silver platter through stupidity.

      • Sparks

        This is spot on. First drive, the Eagles march down the field from their own 26 to a 1st and goal from the 5. One 3 yard run by Blount later they’re at 2nd and goal from the 2. Then Ertz gets the False Start penalty, pushing them back. I’m thinking “Oh shit, here we go again. Another Pats opponent beating themselves, and this time, right out of the gate” 2 failed passes later and they had to settle for a FG. This was not a game to be settling for FG’s as Pederson aptly showed later on.

        • Yahmule

          A couple bad penalties aside, Ertz was so clutch in that game.

          • RSH
          • Sparks

            Agreed. It goes to show how a capable TE can transform an offense. He wasn’t flawless, but they don’t score the go ahead TD without Ertz on that drive. He had a 7 yard catch on 3rd and 6, a 2 yard catch on 4th and 1, and, of course, the 11 yard game winner.

          • Yahmule

            On the bright side, if you look at all the best tight ends in the NFL, Ertz is probably the best comp for Jake Butt. Not to say Jake will develop the same way, but they’re practically identical physically and they have very similar skill sets.

          • Sparks

            This is a good point and something I remind myself when looking at the draft. We might have 10 draft picks but it’ll feel like we drafted 13 players with Butt, CHenderson and Kelly playing next year. Of those 3, I have the most hope for Butt bringing something to the table. For a franchise that has a long history of quality TE’s, these last 3-4 years have been particularly hard in that category.

          • Yahmule

            No kidding. This season made me nostalgic for the Owen Daniels era.

          • RSH

            Our tight end play the last two seasons as been nothing short of dreadful with an occasional great play.

          • Sparks

            Nice, or even Jacob Tamme. Our TE’s totaled 50 catches for 657 yards and 5 TD’s. Tamme did similar or better than that 3 times in his career, 1 each for the Colts, Broncos and Falcons. Owen Daniels did it 6 times in his career. And what’s funny, is we jettisoned off our best pass catching TE (Derby – 19 catches) after week 9.

          • Yahmule

            Teams seems to have a willingness to move on from Derby despite some obvious ability. It will be interesting to see if Gase keeps him around this summer.

    • Rob Rooney

      That 1151 was the most yards in an NFL game. Ever. I’m surprised there weren’t more points scored.

      • Yahmule

        Now that’s pretty amazing. After a season where people did nothing but complain about awful unwatchable offenses (like ours).

        • RSH

          The Eagles showed that creative RPOs can work and win Super Bowls in this league, if they supplement a pro style offense. I am excited to see the Broncos sprinkle RPO and more spread elements into their offense next season.

          • Steven Searls

            They really work when your O-line dominates the other team’s D-line.

          • RSH

            Yup. If we draft Quenton Nelson or Will Hernandez, as well as one of the solid right tackles available in rounds two and three, that will do wonders for this team long-term.

          • Sparks

            So, I had a tingling spidey sense last night watching the game that somehow we end up with Cousins, Barkley at #5 and Hernandez at 40. The uptick from our current QB crop to Cousins and from CJ to Barkley clearly outweighed the downtick of Nelson to Hernandez.

            Of course, I was a couple of tequila’s in, so take this prognostication for what it’s worth. 🙂

          • RSH

            The means will certainly justify these ends!

          • Sparks

            You know, it’s not completely in the world of pipe dreams (or Tequila nips). Everything I’m seeing is the Cousins sweepstakes is a 2 horse race and if Cousins was being honest that he “just wants to win” and money is close, I can’t see the Jets beating the Broncos there.

            I can’t see Barkley slipping out of the top 10 but having him ‘fall’ to #5 is certainly reasonable.

            And until the Senior Bowl where I think he helped himself, Hernandez was a solid round 2 pick. If he continues his strong showing’s at his Pro Day and the combine, he may move up. He’s the piece out of these three I feel the least confident on (assuming we want Cousins).

          • FloydLittle44

            We need studs on the OL. We could use more beef at DT.

          • FloydLittle44

            That won’t happen.

          • RSH

            I am going to have to disagree with you. https://www.denverpost.com/2018/01/23/senior-bowl-von-miller-rpo/
            https://www.denverpost.com/2018/01/11/broncos-coaching-hires-focus-development/

            https://twitter.com/TroyRenck/status/956155958769709058

            “I don’t like the RPO. It’s hard on defense and it’s not fair,” Joseph, a long-time defensive backs coach, said with a laugh. “It’s part of our game. For a defensive back, it’s a conflict. Do I play run or do I play pass? You watch Aqib (Talib) in the Philly game. He played run. It was pass, so it’s tough. Everyone is doing it, so we have to do it also.” . . .

            “We have to take what those guys do best and kind of put it in our plan,” said Vance Joseph. “We can’t watch those guys on tape for four or five months and then draft those guys and ask them to do different things. … We have to implement spread concepts for those guys to be successful on our level.” . . .

            “You look at Philly and you look at Kansas City — we have to adjust also as pro coaches. We’re drafting these guys for their skill set that we see on tape,” Joseph said. “So we can’t take these guys and assume they can do something else. What we draft them for, we have to play to their strengths. … So we have to evolve as coaches also, take these kids’ skill sets and put it to work. So what we see in these players that we love, we have to apply to our game. It’s simple as that in my opinion.”

          • Sparks

            Why is Troy interviewing Flavor Flav?

          • Yahmule

            It’s logical. It gives the defense something else to worry about and executed properly, it’s like having an extra blocker on the field.

    • FloydLittle44

      I prefer a defensive standoff.

    • Clockwork Orange

      I remember people calling Super Bowl 50 “boring” because of the lack of points scored. I would agree if that had been a result of bad offenses, but that day was a showcase of two great defenses (one of which was historically great).

      What we saw yesterday was an average Saturday in the Big 12.

  • Missed this one last week. Mega money.

    https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/958748538418221056

    • RSH

      I really think that Cousins will be a Bronco absent John Elway & Co. being swooned by Nick Foles’s playoff and Super Bowl performance and pulling the trigger on a trade and contract extension.

      • Sparks

        I like Foles and hold nothing against him, but his postseason run feels a lot like Flacco’s run a few years back. It was spectacular but then he returned to his mean the following year and pretty much ever since. I have a gut feeling the same will happen with Foles.

        • DragonPie

          I mean, I think that Foles’ 2013 was really noteworthy and I’ve really been surprised that he hasn’t flashed more. He hasn’t looked nearly as good in the regular season this year, but I think he’s shown enough to earn a starting gig and it wouldn’t utterly shock me to see him turn out to be the better player.

          • T. Jensen

            Jeff Fischer

          • Sparks

            Starting gig in Philly, or in general?

          • Steven Searls

            I think his coaches in Philly (both ex-QBs) knew how to mask his weaknesses and play to his strengths. And having the Patriots take the defender who played the most snaps for them this year out of the game probably didn’t hurt him either. I’m still not sold on Foles as a long term answer for anyone at QB. I sure wouldn’t trade for him. He has a lot of weapons and a great O-line in Philly.

          • DragonPie

            In general. I don’t think he’ll supplant Wentz, especially when considering that Foles wasn’t nearly as effective in the regular season.

            Also, I think that his performance in the Superbowl was less impressive than his play against the Vikings simply because of the difference in quality of the defenses faced.

            Also, I think it’s important to remember that the Eagles have a terrific offense around their QB, so that helps, too.

          • Drewredux

            RPO is basically a two key read. Old school WCO is much easier to process, also. Much simpler than the jabberwocky they are overloading and ruining most young QBs with these days.

            I think it is as simple as that.

        • Sparks
          • Rob Rooney

            The most amazing thing about Flacco’s run is that in 4 games he still passed for 11 yards less than the total yards from SB 52. Crazy.

      • Yahmule

        I see him as Plan C at best. Much prefer Captain Kirk or Tyrod.

        • Drewredux

          What’ll suck balls is they’ll sign Cousins only to pass on Rosen at 5.

          • I say this as a resident Rosen fan around here but why would that suck balls? That then would free them up to address another major need like say OL.

          • Drewredux

            Just that Rosen/Mayfield, etal still have a chance to be transcendent, special players. KC appears to be a high end game manager. Not bad, but special is funner.

            I do get that the kids have a better chance at being awful. That is why I can’t mount much of an argument against the UFA option.

          • Yahmule

            Also, frees us up for Barkley/Nelson/Minkah @ 5 as Underdog noted.

          • Drewredux

            Definitely. That puts the polish on the UFA route for me.

          • Drewredux

            What if, though, tools and best case scenario obssessed Dove Valley falls in love with O. Brown?

            Pretty much every Elway pick outside Lynch has bucked the popular/conventional wisdom.

          • Yahmule

            As valuable as a great quarterback on a rookie contract is, there are several reasons I hope we go FA. Mainly, I want a guy who is ready now to give Von one more chance before time renders him mortal. Also, no guarantee Josh (who most agree is the best thrower) gets to five or that he stays healthy and has a great career. I’m right in the middle of baseball auctions and drafts currently, so I’m very much in durability-is-a-skill mode right now and Kirk definitely has that in his skill set.

      • FloydLittle44

        Foles success is entirely due to Doug Peterson and Frank Reich. He will suck under the clueless Vance Joseph and fill in the blank.

        • gobroncos

          Which, if that’s the case, then maybe we don’t have the right coach?

    • Drewredux

      I wish Cousins made less sense. I don’t want them to do it, but I have nothing but a bad feeling to defend my position.

    • Yahmule

      Considering Cutler, Griese and Kubiak are the best quarterbacks ever drafted by our franchise, I don’t want to throw footballs from a glass house, but the Jets probably should go balls out for Cousins. Their recent history picking quarterbacks is almost impossibly bad and they’ve got an excellent young WR corps, even if Robby Anderson ruins his career.

    • Nick

      I’ll also note that in other tweets and articles, he’s leaning far more Jets than Broncos, and also thinks Taylor could get traded to Denver.

  • T. Jensen

    Just saw the schedule. When was the last time we didn’t have to play the Patriots in the regular season?

    • RSH

      2010.

      • T. Jensen

        Thanks! Man that’s a long stretch. I’m not sure how I feel about not playing them this year. Happy, Sad, Relieved. Tell me how to feel…

        • RSH

          I am definitely not torn up about not having to play them in the 2018 regular season. I would love for Tom Brady’s final game to be against Denver in a humiliating playoff defeat.

          • QDoc

            It would be great to see him go out Marino-style.

        • Nick

          They will dodge one of three potential straight trips to Gillette by not playing them this year. 2019 is also up in the air*, but they have to go to Foxboro in 2020 no matter what.

          *Clearly, if they dodge this they will do so by winning the AFC West while Father Time hits Brady very hard.

    • Yahmule

      What the hell does this guy know about raising young athletes?

      • RSH

        And alleviating foot pain for that matter. 🙂

    • Yahmule

      Is reading Denver Post articles worth the hassle of actually logging in to their website? I’m going to need some time to think this over.

      • RSH

        Paywalls are back at The Denver Post, unfortunately. I have a subscription, because I keep calling to cancel, and The Post agrees to lower my rate and send me King Soopers gift cards.

    • BlackKnigh

      He’ll be a great coach for those guys! Congrats, Ed!

  • Yahmule

    Good lord. Can you imagine what it would like to get in the ring against a professional fighter?

    February 4, 2018

    • Carsonic

      He should take up speed metal drumming in his spare time.

    • Hank Mardukis

      There’s a boxing gym near where I live. Kinda makes me want to take it up (as a workout routine) because that is impressive as hell.

      • Yahmule

        When I was really into boxing, I used to shadow box and do heavy bag. It’s great exercise.

    • Yahmule

      Howard Davis Jr was named Outstanding Boxer of the 1976 Olympic boxing team that featured future champs like Ray Leonard, Michael and Leon Spinks, Leo Randolph and John Tate. He actually went on to have a disappointing pro career, but before things went south, I remember an article a boxing writer penned about sparring with him. He was putting on his headgear and he asked Howard if he was going to wear any. Davis told him, “Not necessary, you won’t hit me” and he didn’t.

      https://youtu.be/eDzKQAXy08c

  • Prater2Beadles4Six

    Drew Magary very eloquently summed up how that super bowl made me feel:
    https://deadspin.com/hey-patriots-fuck-you-in-the-face-1822727092

    • Hank Mardukis

      I love Drew Magary. He’s a funny writer.

      • Andrew

        I eagerly await the why your team sucks series every year.

      • Rob Rooney

        I enjoyed his novel The Postmortal. It was an entertaining read, not too heavy but did have some interesting insights. It is sort of a scifi novel but was definitely a fun read.

        • Hank Mardukis

          I’ve only read his columns on Deadspin and a couple of things here and there on GQ. I’ll have to pick up one of his books from the library and check it out.

          • Rob Rooney

            It is written as basically blog entries, though more as a journal than what he does at Deadspin. And a lot less profanity.

    • bradley

      “But not this year. No, this time the Patriots ate shit to a team quarterbacked by Nick Foles and coached by a picnic dad, and so you better believe I am gonna summon every single petty, misguided instinct within me to bask in the glow of that defeat. You lost, Boston. I know my team also lost and always loses but your team lost YESTERDAY. Your grunting dictator of a coach got too cute by benching his starting cornerback and your android QB got the ball taken from his magical Wolverine hands at the end and now everyone is happy because FUCK YOU.”

      • Yahmule

        Pretty much. It’s funny, but I think I’m way more objective when I watch the Broncos than when I watch the Patriots.

    • FloydLittle44

      I lost count of the times I barked, blurted, uttered FUCK YOU and then had to explain schadenfreude.

      • Yahmule

        I’m the worst possible version of myself during NFL games.

        • Laces Out

          Arent we all?

          • Yahmule

            Yeah, but we never went full Eagle fan.

      • Drewredux

        I get unreasonably pissed at Al and Chris almost immediately these days.

        • Yahmule

          Me, too. Al is a Moonie for the Republicans, so that’s a factor, but I used to have no problem with Collinsworth even long after he wore out his welcome with most Bronco fans.

    • Yahmule

      A shot at movie ruining Mark Wahlburg in the opening paragraph. Outstanding.

      • Carsonic
        • Yahmule

          He is so terrible. At least Costner was good in Bull Durham and wasn’t quite awful enough to outweigh Connery and DeNiro in The Untouchables.

          • Carsonic

            Agreed. Costner was such a disappointment after being absolutely perfect in Silverado. I kept waiting for him to regain that sense of electricity and panache, and instead he took himself too seriously and cranked out leaden performance after leaden performance.

          • Carsonic

            (He was good in Bull Durham, though.)

          • T. Jensen

            My favorite Costner roles (remember I grew up watching him so some of this is tainted by youth)

            1) Perfect World
            2) Bull Durham
            3) Field of Dreams
            4) Untouchables
            5) Dancing with Wolves
            6) Silverado
            7) Hatfield and McCoys
            8) Robin Hood
            9) The war
            10) Superman’s dad (whatever movies those were)

          • Sparks

            I know they were largely a laughingstock and were crucified by analysts (and most movie goers everywhere) but I actually liked Waterworld and The Postman. Guilty pleasures, I know, but I find that I watch either or both at least once a year.

          • RSH
          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            Hated his version of Robin Hood. But liked him in some TV mini-series about post-WW III U.S., where he poses as a U.S. mail carrier and ends up becoming some big leader folks rally around. Pretty cheezy show, but I still enjoyed it.

          • Carsonic

            Forgot about Dances with Wolves, which straight up made me cry.

          • Drewredux

            I went into the theater in Laramie on a comfortable fall night to watch Field of Dreams and came out to an impressive blizzard and probably 10″ of snow. I don’t know if it still happens, but back then, big storms would com0letely isolate the town by ground (There is a local legend that Reo Speedwagon”s “Ridin the Storm Out” was written there by the trapped band). It was cool, because they’d have to close school on account of students and faculty stuck in Cheyenne, Ft. C, wherever.. I think that was a Tuesday night, and we we’re basically done for the week.

          • Yahmule

            He was actually great in Bull Durham, which makes his subsequent terribleness just appalling to me. I’ll admit I kind of liked him in Open Range, but he predisposed my good will by casting Robert Duvall in it. One of the best gunfight scenes ever at the very least.

          • Carsonic

            Yyyyeah… [nervously mumbles something about being a baseball movie… not completely sure I’ve actually seen it…heard good things, though…] Sorry man, had bad experiences in my small town version of little league and kinda turned my back on that game.

          • Yahmule

            I’m sorry to hear that. It makes me sad whenever any kid has a bad experience in youth sports because it doesn’t have to be that way. I watched eight year old’s playing basketball this weekend and it was great.

          • Carsonic

            Yeah, it was verging on after-school special stuff. Didn’t really understand the nuances of the game (pitch it where he can hit it, but also where he can’t hit it?); was the local weird kid and got endless grief from teammates as a result; coaches were old-school hard-asses and had no patience for my uncertainties and hurt feelings.

            Fortunately, I tried soccer a few years later and had the complete opposite experience – joyful, loving coach who taught skills, but wanted us to have fun and didn’t care that we were in last place. And my body seemed to much more quickly take to that way of sporting with it. Same experience when we moved to a new state. I got pretty good actually but then I caught the acting bug and that took up all my time.

          • Yahmule

            I never run willingly, so soccer was not an option and I was a kid during one of the first major AYSO booms. I am glad you found a great coach. That makes all the difference.

            My wife’s nephew was an outstanding athlete and so is his wife. They’re like a Kersey version of the McCaffrey’s because all the kids and awesome student athletes. The youngest was playing this weekend, and she’s going to be another fundamentally perfect defense stopper and transition game killing machine. Kid was in a gym with mom like three days after she was born. The cool thing was watching her coach. Coincidentally, her dad played against this guy in basketball and football in high school and they had some really battles. Anyway, it was just encouraging to see how positive he was about everything, which is so important at that stage.

            They’ve also got a little superstar on that team who runs around with goggles and Steph Curry socks as he coolly surveys the floor on offense and averages roughly nine thousand steals a game on defense. I’ve seen star players that age and they are almost always ball hogs, but this little dude is always looking to get teammates involved. Partly because he’s just an awesome kid, but the coach deserves credit there, too.

          • Drewredux

            I got punched in the ear by an Eagle Scout. I was a Cub Scout. I have never forgiven the slight.

            I can relate.

          • Yahmule

            I had to suppress guffaws of laughter when he bought it in that Superman movie. Cool that he taught Clark to have little regard for human life before he died, though. A lesson he certainly applied while he and his alien pal laid waste to Metropolis in reel three.

          • bradley

            I liked Costner in The Bodyguard, but that’s because he just played himself, which is all he can do. He can’t act.
            Also, The Bodyguard is great because of Whitney Houston.

          • Kush-Lash

            My old man caught a baseball from Costner st the 98 HR Derby during BP. He used to come to Spring Training in Tuscon quite a bit too. Cool memory. The baseball souvenir gods were great that day as I caught a Sandy Alomar Jr. BP homer a little later. Great seats.

    • BlackKnigh

      Absolute eloquence!!!

  • cjfarls

    I see a number of folks writing about how Philly finally didn’t hand the game to NE…
    but I will actually dissent on that point. Pederson I thought called a mediocre at best game (punctuated by some brilliant play designs/calls that over-came a lot of stupidity). IMO they tried to screw it up, and barely managed to hang on.

    1) Iggles totally misplayed the XP attempts. You miss one early… that does NOT mean you should go for 2 the next time up… at that point it was either still late 1st or early 2nd period… you do NOT play for score differential at that point in the game… you need to maximize points. So then they missed the 2-pointer, which just meant they were 2 points down rather than 1. This then led to end-game score-differential decisions where they were forced to go for 2 again… it really put them in a bad spot.

    2) the 3rd down from the 1 call before the Foles TD catch was absolutely horrific. It ended up not mattering, because the Iggles got the TD and then made the DEF stop before the half… but they called an empty-set pass play with ~1min left… I believe it allowed NE to save their last timeout, and didn’t even challenge them to defend the run. If ever there was a time to pound the rock, that was it. You can still do your trick play on 4th down if you don’t gain one yard, and you’ve either burned NE’s timeout for another 40secs off the clock. At least do a play-action if you insist on passing! Just a horrible-terrible-no good play call that only by luck didn’t burn them and let NE do a “double up” at the 1/2time turn.

    3) How in the world did they let NE repeatedly catch passes along the sideline in the final 2-min drill. Give up the shallow middle and tackle… NE has no timeouts! Amendola being open 25yards downfield along the sideline is just unforgiveable.

    4) Ahgelor of course stupidly running out of bounds (to be fair, his coaches did get on him about that).

    Anyway, kudos to Philly for playing well enough to win… they made the plays when they needed to. But the coaching/mental stuff was not great. Mistakes like Aghelor’s happen, but some of the other ones were just brainless, and it amazes me that NFL-level coaches still so commonly do such stupidity (and to give credit, where Belicheck is so much better than other coaches).

    • Drewredux

      I get what you are saying, but I think his unconventional game management was part of the genius of it all. It kind of mitigates all of BB’s meticulous preperation if the opponent can break and disrupt the script.

      I like the phychology of it, too.

      • FarAwayBroncoFan

        I thought it was brilliant in the second half how they kept fooling the Patriot coaches by making it appear Patriot wide receivers were constantly running around wide open. The Patriot coaching staff must have been like, “uh oh…” Really shook em up. 😉

        • Drewredux

          I was talking some of his unconventional game decisions. I commented earlier on their odd defensive game plan.

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            Oh I agree. My comment was tongue in cheek. I too thought they looked very good on offense. Those defenses, though…

    • Agreed on some fronts. Overall Pederson’s plan and playcalling was great. I’d add to the above re: two point call, the two third down plays in 4th almost killed them, one on a 3rd and 3 they threw it to the slot WR 10 yds. behind LOS.

      • cjfarls

        Yep – its hard because overall, Pederson had his team prepped, and some of the play designs were brilliant.
        But the defensive scheme left lots to be desired, and some of the simple things were just so off.

    • Sparks

      I agree with your #1. I thought the same thing when they were going for 2 so early. A 16 to 3 lead would have been better than a 15-3. Then Collingsworth mentioned something about the kickers complaining about the LII logos making for a slick surface for XP’s, so I thought maybe that’s why they chose to go for 2. They ended up kicking a few XP’s after that so maybe the field condition wasn’t a concern. I did like the aggressiveness, though.

      On #2, I thought they were setting it up for a called QB run for the exact reason you said. That down, distance and time of the game called for them to pound Blount so I thought they were getting cutesy and going with a Foles sneak. I was surprised they threw out of it as well, but maybe Foles saw something he liked in the passing game.

      #3 seemed like a blown coverage, in that the guy let Amendola go cause he thought he had Safety help over the top.

      Philly didn’t play a clean game, but they played clean enough and were able to overcome some of their own mistakes to render them moot. Overall, I liked the aggressiveness they played with and I think it was this aggressiveness that caused some of the mistakes.

    • Jeremy

      I think he took risks. Some worked out and some didn’t.

      Enough worked out that they won. I thought the way they played in the final two minutes of each half was the difference

      • cjfarls

        Yep – the iggles defense barely showed up…. but they showed up for 4 decisive minutes at the end of each half.

    • DragonPie

      I agree with your point about the 3rd and 1. Seemed like the last place that I’d prefer to go five wide.

      I disagree about the two point conversion. With the odds being about 50-50 to make the two point conversion, and the odds of making the extra point are only about 95% now, maximizing points might actually mean going for two.

      Besides those odds are for average offenses against average defenses which this wasn’t. You’d have to think that the odds had to favor the Eagles a bit there with their offense against the Pat’s defense even if the Patriots were stronger in the red zone than elsewhere.

      I also think that Belichick should have gone for it on his fourth and one attempt more than he should have gone for it on fourth and five, though I think that the odds favored going for both.

      I was also glad that Pederson never let off the gas. I thought that’s what he did most that improved his odds of winning. The Eagles offense played a terrific game overall, but that defense really was ugly and not at all what I was expecting from these Eagles.

      • cjfarls

        I think if that 2-point call was based on point maximization, they should’ve gone for 2 on the FIRST touchdown.
        if you truly think you have a better than 47% chance of a 2-pnt conversion, and XPs are only 95%, that implies going for it EVERYTIME in the early game…. not just when you’re up by 5 and trying to get up by 7. To me, it looked purely like Pederson was playing the point-spread, and the whole problem is that has no relevance in the 2nd Q… don’t look at end-game scenarios until the 4th Q… lots can happen in the meantime, so take the point maximization (however you think that is)…. but none of Pederson’s other decisions on XPs seemed to follow the thinking you propose.

        • DragonPie

          I mean, I agree that he should have gone for it on the other attempt as well. Perhaps he was reminded that those short kicks aren’t gimmees, but also, the fact that the Pats also missed a short FG and an XP of their own suggests that maybe there was something to that logo causing issues.

          Even if it looked like one of them was just a bad snap.

  • FloydLittle44

    I watched final hail mary frame by frame. The DB did exactly what I was coached to do, smack the ball down.

    As soon as he did that Gronk went into full acting mode. Simultaneously four DB’s put 5 yards distance between themselves and Gronk. Cat like. The were all leaning backwards with their hands down at their sides in two frames.

    Either that was superior football IQ or excellent coaching.

  • Prater2Beadles4Six

    I found this to be enjoyable:
    https://deadspin.com/america-please-enjoy-these-photos-of-tom-brady-1822716310

    Deadspin has a lot of great content from last night and today. The calls from across the world of the Foles td and brady strip sack are great as well.

  • Yahmule

    Happy Birthday, Hammer.

    Graig Kreindler is really talented.

    February 5, 2018

    • bradley

      Aaron, Eddie Matthews, Warren Spahn, Lou Burdette – stars of my Milwaukee Braves, who beat the Yankees in the ’57 World Series.

      • Yahmule

        Hank was great in that WS, but Burdette’s three complete games wins, including shutouts in games 5 and 7, carried the day.

        • bradley

          I became a Braves fan in ’56 (I was ten). My older brothers were a fan of the Brooklyn Dodgers or the Yankees. I was sort of in limbo until I bought a pack of baseball cards (best bubble gum available, although Fleers and Bazooka were good also).
          There was an Eddie Matthews card, that described a young 3rd baseman who threw right but batted left. Great counterpart for me, especially with one brother idolizing the switch hitter Mantle.
          Eddie batted third, Hank 4th, so I never worried if Eddie whiffed.
          Burdette was awesome. Spahn got hurt and couldn’t go. Watching Burdette bury Yankees on little rest was awesome.
          What really struck me in later years was that this was only a decade or so after Jackie Robinson signed with the Dodgers. I don’t recall any of that racial crap directed at Aaron. If there was any, I was blissfully unaware, like a ten year old should be.

          • Yahmule

            I went to my first game when I was nine and by the time I was ten, baseball was roughly as important as oxygen to me.

          • BlackKnigh

            My brothers always talked baseball when I was growing up. Living in NE Colorado – we could listen to St Louis Cardinals, Twins and KC Athletics games. I listened on the radio to most of the ’57 WS. My Dad was thrilled that the ex-Yankee Burdette beat his old teammates 3 times. We were threshing millet on the farm when the ’57 WS was going on. We hung around after the noon meal to listen to the Braves win game 4 with Henry Aaron’s 3 run HR in the 10th inning.
            I ended up being a Cardinal and Oriole fan.

  • Adam Gase making enemies not quite at Josh McDnaiels pace, but on a healthy roll:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/Be0cPTqDCNa/?taken-by=jaytrain

    Speaking of McDaniels, Pat Kirwan said today on NFLR that the talk in Mobile was that McDaniels was seriously considering backing out of his deal with the Colts but looks now to be taking the job. It was failry clear that if he burned the bridge with Ballard, he wouldn’t get another shot. But, if he’s unsure and jerking the Colts around, why doesn’t Ballard just tell the dink to beat it and move on to Toub or someone else?

    • Yahmule

      I think the Colts would earn a lot of respect by telling him to go get fucked now.

    • Jeremy

      I dont know if mcd will be a good head coach, but I do know the patriots will miss him.

      So he better get his ass over there.

      • I dislike McD very much but can’t argue that he was a good OC for Pats. Though his play calling in first half last night was bizzare. It’s too bad the Bills hired Dabbol would have like to see him as Pats OC, he’s awful.

        • Jeremy

          I think the lack of coaching turnover has really helped new England and that is out the window now

  • Yahmule

    You won’t find the Tawmmy from Quinzee Patriot fans in this group. That dude on the left looks a little grumpy, though.

    February 5, 2018

    • Laces Out

      Massholes! At large

  • The other day someone here was wondering if there was any bad feelings b/t Brady and Bridget Moynahan:

    https://twitter.com/bridgetmoynahan/status/960345804954365954

    • Laces Out

      She remains far hotter than hook face Giz

    • gobroncos

      It’s no wonder Tom and her broke up. She appears to be democrat through and through. Tom’s besties with Trump.

    • G Mik

      And she ain’t from Philly…

  • T. Jensen

    Random off topic question. Yesterday at church we were talking about getting to know other members. (women typically have lots of friends but the men always seem to be more acquaintances) anyway they wanted to gather everyone’s interests to spark activities and friendships.

    I’m doing a google forms and this is the list of interests I have so far. (which is mainly just my interests plus a couple)

    Board Games
    Movies
    Cooking
    Watching Football
    Watching Basketball
    Eating
    Amusement Parks
    Reading
    Video games
    Playing Golf
    Softball League
    Playing Vollyeball
    Playing Basketball

    I figure y’all are a diverse group and could potentially give me some additional ideas. thoughts?

    • RSH

      Utilizing the skills and training of those within your congregation to instruct others on learning or improving a particular skill, craft, or hobby, e.g., home repairs, resume improvement, interviewing, budgeting, etc.

      • T. Jensen

        thanks! just goes to show how limited my hobbies are. Between work and kids I don’t get too much true free time and end up wasting it here or in front of the tv.

    • VonSwenson

      Gardening, art and studying for professional development immediately come to mind. Also listening to music, political activism, hiking/camping.

      I think in terms of cultural work, family work, household work, health work, etc.

      • T. Jensen

        thanks

    • Carsonic

      Music – listening, creating, discussing

      • T. Jensen

        Thanks

      • Alaskan

        You forgot to add hating the Raiders.

    • John

      Men don’t have that many friends because a lot of them get picked on in school (doesn’t happen as much to women), and because they are “trained” since middle school that being cool and getting laid (and being a star on the football or basketball team) is all that matters. Teenage boys usually don’t encourage and uplift each other (I’m not saying they should or shouldn’t, I’m just putting forth the facts).

      • T. Jensen

        That may be true as well. I have 2 really good friends from highschool and that’s about it. I move every couple of years and have never put forth the effort.

        My wife had lots of friends but she’s mainly a stay at home mom (she teaches college part time). So she takes our kids to play group and stuff. Plus I think they are more in tune with their emotional needs and plan book club nights or bachelor gatherings etc to get a break.

        I think I’m not around others enough to really get to know them. Plus my interests are weird. I like football but really only the broncos and big games. Maybe the longhorns too. I love reading but mainly sci fi (which makes me a nerd). I like video games but don’t make time for them (also nerdy). I love board games but not American Monopoly games. I like concerts but my music choices are very eclectic. I like shooting guns but I am not a gun enthusiast. I’ve never found anyone with 3 or more similar interests.

        I also find I’m more at ease talking to women then men. Which is a new thing for me since being married, like once I wasn’t trying to date them I could talk to them.

        • masonjar

          Through school, college, and early career, nearly half my friends were female. Since getting married a decade ago, that number has dwindled. Whether I’m self-conscious around women with my wife, not as approachable, or more concerned with family matters, I don’t have as many friends, and certainly not as many that were female.

    • Laces Out

      Daily exercise and personal development are non negotiables for me brother!

      • T. Jensen

        Man, I haven’t been able to get an exercise routine since I started having kids. I’m jealous

        • G Mik

          I have 5, 7 and 9 so I just get up at 445 to get my hour in. Works great. If you want to prioritize it. Once you start doing it you’ll be amazed at how easy it is to get up that early.

        • Laces Out

          5 AM gets er done by 6.15 Shake and hygiene and take the kids to school at 7.30. Basically roll around w the kids 6.45 to 7.30. From there 90 min time block sole laser focus your most important task/goal. ONLY ONE from 8.30 to 10. Then, only then read your email for the first time.

          Itll change your life brosef ; )

    • gobroncos

      Brewing beer.
      Picnics at parks.
      Traveling.
      Camping.
      Hiking.
      Skiing.
      Orgies.
      Car maintenance.
      Running.
      Triathlons.
      Pole Pedal Paddle’s (if you have them in your area).
      Stargazing is fun if you get people that have some good telescopes.

      • T. Jensen

        Thanks though some of those wouldn’t play too well with church members lol

        • DCJ1

          Suspect my hobby of Diablo 3 wouldn’t play so well either…

          Years ago we lived in DC and had to take in our niece. Since we were designated to Anacostia High School, which had the highest murder rate of all the DC schools, we opted to send her to a Catholic school. Mind you, we’re not Catholic and had to do some deprogramming, but in general she got a good education. Until the day we got a call from the school because she’d been talking about playing WoW with us and killing demons. From then on, we had to remind her “Don’t tell the nuns about this, sweetie.”

          • T. Jensen

            I could never get into Diablo 3 and intentionally avoided WoW. (I knew I’d get addicted) I play Heroes of the Storm with some regularity though. Valla is my favorite hero on it.

  • Yahmule

    There should be a some kind of group funded account that auto-pays reporters $200 every time they ask Belichick about Malcolm Butler until the day he dies.

    February 5, 2018

    • Yahmule

      Looking down and to the left when answering a hard question indicates someone is lying is something I was told once.

      • bradley

        The good liars look you right in the eye.

        • Jeremy

          He is a great football coach, but a horrible liar

          • He has an… inflated ego. {puts on sunglasses}
            {cue the Who}

      • G Mik

        He’s so damn used to getting rid of or sidelining players and it all works out. Then Nick Foles. How can he explain that? Hubris.

    • bradley

      Belichick: “You know why I’m here.”

    • BlackKnigh

      Butler shedding some tears during the national anthem tells me more than anything else. It was a BB decision to bench him. Not in his team’s best interest – but BB does what he wants to do.

  • bradley

    So the Cheaters are 5-5 in SBs now?

    • Yahmule

      Yep.

  • Kush-Lash

    Nick, Schefty was on The Drive this afternoon and said he thought the Redskins were likely to still franchise tag Cousins so they could own trade rights. Claimed Cousins would be silly not to sign the $35 mil deal but couldn’t teams call their bluff just as easily? Could Was afford $55 mil on the books for one position if no one offered a trade? This seems like such a Snyder move and smells of desperation.

    • Royalwithcheese

      Another, more likely problem is that Cousins wouldn’t sign, but it would still take up a $34M cap hold, greatly hindering their ability to sign other FAs.

  • Jeremy

    Interesting to see the early super bowl odds for next year. Patriots still big favorites

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/02/05/2019-super-bowl-odds-favorites-liii-patriots-packers-eagles

  • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

    https://youtu.be/4BiWtH0HywY
    Kirk Cousins and Donald Trump.

  • Yahmule
    • DCJ1

      The best thing about this is his WRs will all laugh, flip him off and point to this pic when gets in their grills about dropping passes.