It’s All Orange, Fat Man: 03/31/16

News

WR Mike Williams worked out for the Patriots.

– Kevin Colbert, the Steelers GM, told media the other day that he believes Ben Roethlisberger has three to four more seasons in his prime. 

– The Colts add TE Mike McFarland.

– The Chargers have started a Citizen’s Initiative to help get them a new stadium.

– WR Percy Harvin, although not signed as of yet, apparently has multiple teams interested and a source close to the situation believes he will definitely play in 2016.

– The New York Times officially declines to retract their article about the NFL.

– Mike Shanahan was called by RGIII before he went to the Browns. Shanny told him to be himself and to be patient.

– DE JJ Watt told a radio station in Houston that last year was the hardest on his body he ever went through.

Analysis

– Mike Florio believes that the NFL won’t likely sue the New York Times over their article comparing them to tobacco companies.

– Nathan Jahnke gives his Top 10 defensive players to hit free agency in 2017.

– Michael Renner writes that teams should pay more attention to DT Chris Jones.

– Chase Stuart archives his AV Adjusted Team Age statistics for the defensive side of the ball from 2012-2015.

– Nathan Forster ranks prospects with a Playmaker Score and a Playmaker Projection rating.

– Jeff Dooley states the Chicago Bears are the best team for one RB Ezekiel Elliot.

-ESPN goes over the worst free agent signings for all 32 teams. 

Broncos

– Troy Renck states LB Brandon Marshall remains unsure if he will skip offseason workouts in order to holdout for more money.

– A woman in a coma received a call from Peyton Manning.

Seanie’s Shenanigans

– Sean Weatherspoon found an uncashed game check while moving some stuff around his house.

Preach!

“Life is not a problem to be solved but a reality to be experienced.” – Soren Kirkegaard

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  • aleowr

    The NFL does not have direct deposit?

    • Laces Out

      In other words, the report confirms hes a moron

      • Alaskan

        But it still must be great to find $138K you don’t need laying around.

        • VonSwenson

          Hooray for Dubs! (For he’s a jolly good fellow, etc. )

      • ohiobronco

        Or it was supposed to be direct deposited and it was the Cardinals’ error (if you had read the article).

        • Laces Out

          Of course it’s an over blown story bro! Watch out Captain Serious!

          • ohiobronco

            It was a mildly amusing story and you seemed to go straight for the stereotypical athlete angle, which was the reason for my curt reply.

          • Laces Out

            Those ones are always click whores my friend, sarcasm intended!

    • RSH, Esq.

      Many state laws require that employers provide their employees with the option of either direct deposit or issuing a paper paycheck. Weatherspoon may have elected not to participate in the direct deposit of his wages.

      • SteveS

        It’s amazing to me how people still opt for paper cheques versus direct deposit, even in the face of bank incentives to go the direct deposit route.

      • T. Jensen

        I’m not certain but I think that only applies for normal pay. For example up until last year my work provided DD for bi-weekly paychecks but if I submitted an expense the reimbursement would be paper.

        It is possible most of his checks were DD and this one was a special situation (bonus or something)

        • RSH, Esq.

          Once again, it is state law specific. And bonuses in most states are still considered wages.

          • T. Jensen

            true I’m just saying he could have had DD and this was just a weird one time thing.

  • Snipe

    The call from Manning to the lady in the coma was neat.

    • Lonestar47

      The only thing that makes that news worthy if she woke up.

  • Dirty_Sancheese

    What is the groups thoughts on exercising Sylvester Williams 5th year option? It would come out to over $6 million and the decision needs to be made by May 1st.
    http://predominantlyorange.com/2016/03/30/broncos-dt-sylvester-williams-player-option-approaching/

    • Jeremy

      I’m on the fence. That would have him making more than any 3-4 DT, who traditionally don’t make very much

      http://overthecap.com/position/3-4-defensive-tackle/

      • ohiobronco

        Probably not much risk in just waiting to see what his market is.

    • cjfarls

      I don’t think the money is guaranteed, so I lean towards doing it and telling him that we will either renegotiate it into a long-term deal next year if he proves he can be more than a 2 down player (or to a deal more in line with a 2-down player), or cut him if he doesn’t play up to the salary.

      If the money is guaranteed, I think we see what the market is like.

    • Nick

      Personally, I would play it safe and exercise it, the cap space is there for it. But ohiobronco made a good point below that Elway may side with more: let his agent gauge the market and see if it fits what the Broncos have in mind.

    • Rhett Rothberg

      Will be interesting as I suspect they will let him play more of the Malik Jackson role this year. Sly has said he is best at and prefers just getting upfield to the QB and not being the double team eating NT type….

      So, if they pass on the extension and he has a big sack number year, might be more costly to keep him…

      • Royalwithcheese

        I don’t think Sly is that guy or will ever be that guy. Too many good DL in this draft to spend $6M on him next year. Draft and develop. Draft and develop. (Then please use that money to keep Eman.)

        • Rhett Rothberg

          I tend to agree… Who knows, there may be some value added with Kollar. If he makes your DL better, easier to move on from a Sly and just work the development cycle.

  • Jeremy

    Is today the day a Kap trade would happen, if it were to happen?

    • ohiobronco

      The so called guarantee deadline is in 5 hours. If nothing happens by then (doesn’t look like it will), no reason to make any moves before the draft. If nobody they like falls to them they can always make a move on a McCown, Hoyer, Kap or Glennon at that point.

      • SteveS

        Personally, having watched both Hoyer and Yates play pretty extensively in Houston, I’d rather have Yates.

        • Rhett Rothberg

          I see Yates out there wandering in QB wasteland… Pre-Kap availability, I thought they might kick those tires given Kubiak’s experience with him… But at the same time, it’s a real stretch. He’s got a bum knee too…

  • The Color Orange

    Grant Cohn on Kaepnerick:

    “Kaepernick used to be the future. He’s probably used to thinking of himself as a young, athletic quarterback with potential. But, that’s not who he is anymore.

    He is a veteran who has not mastered his craft and probably never will. He hasn’t developed his decision-making or accuracy — two of the most important attributes for a successful NFL quarterback.

    Think of all of the quarterback gurus Kaepernick has gone to, all of the coaches he has worked with, all of the snaps he has played during games — including college and high school — and all of the practice snaps he has taken in his entire life. We’re talking tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of snaps, and he still hasn’t changed.” http://www.pressdemocrat.com/sports/5443746-181/grant-cohn-kaepernick-bet-on

    • ohiobronco

      This is why if Kap his honest with himself he would be crazy to take a voluntary pay cut.

    • Snipe

      Don’t let Rhett read this. Kaepernick is the key to avoiding QB purgatory.

      • SteveS

        Nah, Rhett just wants to be entertained!

        • Dirty_Sancheese

          Should we all chip in and buy Rhett a puppy?

          • Rhett Rothberg

            Wouldn’t even take that… I’m pretty easily entertained…. Only child…so….

          • Sparks

            Maybe a “Make Kaepen Happen” pin? 🙂

          • Rhett Rothberg

            I’m thinking more of “All In with Colin” trucker hats…

          • Alaskan

            I’ve got a new puppy. What a hassle.
            I would not inflict that on anybody, let alone Rhett.

          • Rhett Rothberg

            Put a diaper on it!

          • Alaskan

            This is our fourth Labrador.
            My wife tells me I suffer from recency bias and they were all this bad.
            But I am convinced this little dog intends to chew our house down.

          • Rhett Rothberg

            Lab puppy you are brave! Brave is code for nuts 😉

          • Rhett Rothberg

            Though I will say, if you all just want to chip in, I’ll take the cash equivalent… Thanks, All!!!

        • Snipe

          I find winning to be most entertaining. I don’t care how it’s achieved

          • Rhett Rothberg

            Then we should’ve kept Tebow, no?

          • ohiobronco

            Funny, I recall him losing 4 of his final 5 starts in ugly fashion.

      • The Color Orange

        Whereas Cohn would simply replace “avoiding” with “entering” in that sentence.

      • Rhett Rothberg

        I read it…too late!!!

        • Snipe

          NOOOOOOO!

    • aleowr

      This is why I want nothing to do with Kaepnerick unless he comes dirt cheap (<$5-7 Million a year). I'd rather roll with Sanchez and shoot for a QB in next year's draft.

    • Rhett Rothberg

      This is the, “Sorry Colin, you’re not the greatest QB of all time, so therefore you are the worst QB of all time” argument…

      “Think of all of the quarterback gurus Kaepernick has gone to, all of the coaches he has worked with, all of the snaps he has played during games — including college and high school — and all of the practice snaps he has taken in his entire life. We’re talking tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of snaps, and he still hasn’t changed.”

      I’m just not buying the whole, this guy has fallen off a cliff and never to return argument… What, exactly, is Cohn saying hasn’t changed? He doesn’t…interesting.

      Again, for the 50th time, no one is arguing that Kap is destined for the HOF. But he can at least be a more athletic Jake Plummer in this offense, no?

      Want Sanchez? Ok, have those 87 INT’s too…

      If Kap wasn’t available, I wouldn’t give the guy a 2nd thought… But, the story has been that he is reasonably attainable, and that seems like a good way to go forward…

      • The Color Orange

        I think SMA hit the nail on the head yesterday. If you want to develop an athletic QB and see if he can become a player in Kubiak’s system, why not draft one and pay him a fraction of what Kaepernick makes?

        • Rhett Rothberg

          Yup, I get it. That’s certainly an option. Me personally, I’m dubious on it. Not so much on that approach, but more on the QB’s available to work with…

          If come to the conclusion that the “development” thing doesn’t work. There have been maybe 4-5 QB’s in the past 15 years who have been developed. Otherwise, the real successful QB’s have been ones that you saw coming, that were expected to be good starters. So given that Lynch, Prescott, Siemian are in the developmental camp, if I had to put money on them being successful or not, I would vote not…

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            By “developed,” do you mean they didn’t start right away, giving them time to learn the game, and then started sometime later? Because I feel like there are dozens of QBs that have been developed in recent history. Your boy Kaepernick is one of them. He didn’t start until half way through his second season. Then there’s Aaron Rodgers, Philip Rivers, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brock Osweiler, Tyrod Taylor, Kirk Cousins, Brian Hoyer and Josh McCown, and and those are just the ones that are active.

          • Rhett Rothberg

            Nope, to me a developmental QB is one that you’re not sure if they’re going to be good or not. The expectation is low or unknown…

            Aaron Rodgers, for example, sat for a while sure, but when he was drafted, there was an expectation he would be good. That he would be the guy. Same was true for Rivers and Brees. In this draft, I think Wentz and Goff are expected to be good…

            Examples of “developmental” QB’s would be like a Brady, Geno Smith, Cousins, Foles, Kap, John Skelton, Pat White, Dan Lefevour, Siemian, Dennis Dixon….the list goes on.

            My contention is that over the last 15-20, you can count on one hand the number of guys who actually “developed” into anything. I think we came up with Romo, Brady, Warner, can’t remember…Cousins is a candidate.

            Note: Wilson is a tweener because I would argue he was way underdrafted because he had a wacky college career. I think you could see him coming….he was going to be good (TYJE?)

            I don’t think Fitzboring, Oz, Taylor, Hoyer, McCown count because, well, they aren’t good. They’re just guys…interchangeable nobodies.

            So based on those trends, you pretty much see the good QB’s coming. Then other than that, you can pretty much count on the “developmental” QB’s not panning out. That’s why I am pretty convinced that Lynch is going to be a career backup… Or at least a middling starter. He’s not expected to be good. He’s going to have to learn and become something he is not. And that just never seems to work out… It would be nice if it would…but it hasn’t.

            I’ve concluded that it’s pretty much pointless to draft a QB unless he is one of those ones that you see coming, that you know is going to be good. Otherwise, you’re spinning your wheels. Hence, the interest in Kap, because, and I get it’s debatable, we know what he is and he has real, actual potential evidenced on an NFL field….

    • Rhett Rothberg

      Interesting little tidbit via the magic of disqus… I asked some questions in the comment thread on this article….got this as a response:

      “Totally agree with you. Cohn hates, yes hates, Kaep because he was “rude”. So he is relishing this opportunity to pile on.
      Those of us in the seats, saw a very talented guy who, with the right scheme, the right coach, could play lights out.
      I am hoping the Kelly/Kaep marriage works and Kaep finds his groove again. I so would like to see Cohn eat his words, but the again, that’s just asking way too much.”

      and this:

      “Cohn, really never knows what he’s talking about. Your dealing with a head case in Kap. He needs a lot of love, like Harbaugh did for him. The man has talent an well play, like his first 3 years if he can find happiness an a coach that believes in him. He’d be a great fit with Denver! But there’s no way he’d take a cut from 11.9 mill to 8 mill.”

      This doesn’t necessarily mean anything, just some interesting local context…

  • Nick

    This won’t add another compensatory pick for the Broncos since they already have 4.

    https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/715567339111112704

    • RSH, Esq.

      I know that I speak for all Broncos’ fans when I write that I am devastated to see Davis sign elsewhere.

      • I have been openly bawling. Its too much to handle.

        • InSiemianWeTrust

          Big drops of tears?

          • Tiny ones. Im not a little girl.

          • InSiemianWeTrust

            Drops are still drops Dubs.

          • I hate you.

          • VonSwenson

            I hate Vernon Davis.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher
          • RSH, Esq.

            If only we were able to witness this from Davis as a Bronco.

            https://twitter.com/NFL/status/715586366793318401

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            If Denver ran that play last fall and it unfolded exactly like that, he would have stopped running and watched the defender intercept it, so as not to mess up his fresh manicure.

          • diningerj

            That was so depressing – I was at the game, and the crowd let out a collective sigh……

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            Me too. That catch would have put us in FG range to tie, or TD for the win.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            Or this? blob:https%3A//vine.co/a4bf1286-defc-4555-9e1a-9121282c239d

        • John

          I know. His dropped passes and lack of effort were legendary.

          • BlackKnigh

            I have never seen hands of stone like his were….

            That snarkily said – I wish him well in DC. He starred in as a Terp. Hope he is able to end his career there.

      • ohiobronco

        I just don’t know how they will replace his production.

        • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

          My Orange “Time to Ride” Bronco towel had more production this year than VD.

        • gobroncos

          I’m sure DT can compensate for his dropped passes. Don’t worry, his production will be missed.

      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        Give-a-shit = 0

        • Kyle Milligan

          Fo reel. Was excited to see him sign here and was disappointed at his production…
          Wish him well though

      • Sparks

        I’m astounded he ‘caught’ on anywhere at all.

    • The Color Orange

      I’m sure glad we gave up two draft picks for those three months of nothing.

      • Jeremy

        The draft picks are insignificant compared to the cap space we wasted.

  • Nick

    I’ll be real curious to see how much they get to see when this could spell the end of Jamaal Charles in KC.

    https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/715571317815316480

    • Nick
      • RSH, Esq.

        Davis intrigues me, but I would not trade for him. Regardless, I doubt the Chiefs would trade him to a division rival.

      • Laces Out

        Really like Knile Davis but no way they send him to us

        • GMik – Broncologist

          Fins maybe?

    • Charles counts for $5.3M against the cap with no dead money if he is traded or released. I could see the Chiefs keeping him for one more season, but if they do, he’s gone next season because his cap hit rises to $7M (again, no dead money).

    • Nick
  • ohiobronco
    • Nick

      This should bury this longstanding rumor for good. Kaep would be nuts to take that pay cut.

      • ohiobronco

        As the Broncos I would take that and give up a 3rd day pick. As Kap I would say no thanks. However, if he were released, that would likely be his rough market given Rg3’s deal.

        • GMik – Broncologist

          I’m not sure he’ll have much of a market this year but next year he will be way more sought after than Bob Griffin. While Bob had a great rookie year, Kaep has taken a team to 2 NFC Championships and a Super bowl.

          He’s probably smart to turn down the Broncos offer unless he gets cut.

          • Rhett Rothberg

            BGIII

      • Rhett Rothberg

        Only if the rest of the contract stays as is…

        Now if it gets restructured to be a little less year to year, maybe that would be an enticement…

      • Rhett Rothberg

        But also, given that the 49ers org is so unstable, and the fact that his contract is year to year. Is it worth going with the $11.9M but risking the out years?

        Whereas a move to Denver might makes things more stable…

        • ohiobronco

          Yes. If he returns to form the best thing for him is to get out of his current contract and get on a short term deal. If he doesn’t, the best thing for him to do is collect as much of his current contract as possible. As it stands, his current contract very likely exceeds his market (proven by cool trade market).

        • drewthorn

          Don’t get all crazy, now. Kaep would be a fool to put anything ahead of his ’16 revenue stream. The long view, passion for his work, the insatiable quest for fulfillment, a shot at redemption, the pursuit of his dream? Trivial stuff reserved solely for the common folk.

    • Laces Out

      If he wants to actually PLAY, and WIN, then he’d take that deal all day.

      If its just about the money then he’ll be RGIII this year. Have fun with Chip’s sign language Kinder Care offense that will further translate to no development in any other scheme that is not a college level offense

      Sanchez will be better simply for not being in that offense

      • Rhett Rothberg

        Hey, Chip, what play should we run?

        Banana Pancake Fuzzy Dice

  • Rhett Rothberg

    Interesting article on the little point that popped up yesterday, how the 5th year option works out for the 1st round pick and is it a big deal…

    If the guy you pick is good, then, yes. But is it in and of itself a big deal?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/tracking-the-fifth-year-option-outlook-for-all-32-first-round-picks-of-the-2013-nfl-draft-010824994.html

    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      Off topic, but what is the difference between “in itself” and “of itself?” Why is it always both? Can it be one or the other? Deep Thoughts, with SMA.

      • Rhett Rothberg

        Well, some if it comes down to typing efficiency/laziness 🙂 I think in itself. In and of itself is probably posureistical overagrandizement…

      • Kyle Milligan

        When I say” of itself” out loud…
        everyone in the office thinks I m crazy for talking to myself…

    • ohiobronco

      It should be noted that the value goes down significantly for non-top 10 picks. Look at 10 and 11 here (both the same position).

  • RSH, Esq.
  • The Color Orange

    Per Lindsay Jones, we shouldn’t expect anything to happen with Kaepernick today:

    “A person familiar with the Broncos’ thinking told USA TODAY Sports that Elway continues to monitor Kaepernick’s status with the Niners, but is not currently engaging in trade talks. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because Elway and coach Gary Kubiak have declined to publicly comment on the 49ers quarterback.

    So the April 1 deadline is expected to pass without any movement, and a new ‘deadline’ of April 28, the first day of the draft, is added to the Kaepernick calendar.” http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/49ers/2016/03/31/colin-kaepernick-san-francisco-denver-broncos/82443454/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatodaycomnfl-topstories

    • Laces Out

      Smoke and mirrors BS. They’re waiting on Colin to decide guaranteed, may not be today, but it’ll happen unless Kaep wants all 11M+

      • The Color Orange

        What would the Broncos gain by leaking a story that they’re not currently engaging in trade talks for Kaepernick, when the only other relevant party–the 49ers–would know whether or not that was true?

        • Jeremy

          Maybe it’s so that if they don’t get him then it looks like they never wanted him and can save face.

          • ElwayIsGod7

            I don’t think Elway cares about saving face; nothing can de-face him in Denver. Especially after winning Super Bowl #3 for the franchise.

          • The Color Orange

            Never wanted him? Everyone who even tangentially follows the NFL knows that Denver wants him. They’ve negotiated with his reps, they’ve engaged in trade talks with SF, they’ve let them know what they think his value is, and they’ve currently put a fifth rounder on the table. I’m not sure how Denver could possibly convey that they never wanted him, and that’s not even what Jones’s story implies. And Denver does not lose face either way. Elway has made clear what he thinks Kaepernick is worth and what he’s willing to offer. If SF isn’t interested, he’ll find a different QB.

        • Laces Out

          That’s not a leak, but simply an update so L. Jones has something to publish on the matter. We’ve known for a week the deadline of 4.1 was a non factor being he’s injured etc.

          All I’m personally saying is the media is dragging around a dead horse…Kap simply takes a pay cut to be a Bronco or he takes the easy money and probably gets cut next year and sits…

          That’s about as simplified as it gets for CK being a Bronco…I still personally think Elway will get it done but if not then we move on with Plan Ab : )

    • Royalwithcheese

      It’s just so unlikely on so many levels that Kap makes it to the Broncos. Cap space and his contract, Elway’s propensity to stick to his guns on what he’s willing to give up, York’s attempt to save face with any Kap deal, and finally, the fact that Kap could actually thrive in Chip’s system.

      I’m going to start watching Paxton Lynch highlight videos…

      • ohiobronco

        Both showed some ability and tools in college but had college system concerns. Kap went at 36, Broncos hold 31. Four years taking up essentially zero cap space.

        • Royalwithcheese

          Honestly, I don’t think he’ll be there at 31. I think the Rams will take him at 15 or Arizona a few picks before the Broncos. They have the ammo if they want to move up, but I don’t think they’ll do it.

          Double-down on defense and the offensive line and rolling with the Sanchize reallly makes the most sense.

          • ohiobronco

            Perhaps, tough to predict. I also think he has some similarities as a prospect to Geno Smith, who was at one point talked about as top 10 then had a bad bowl game and slipped well into the second.

    • ohiobronco

      “San Francisco kicks off its offseason program on April 4, at which point Kelly will be allowed to have more contact with Kaepernick”

      If he shows up Monday, then he isn’t serious about his trade request.

      • Rhett Rothberg

        Yup, good point… New coach gives them the early start… That will be interesting… There’s no motivation $$ wise for SF to move him. They’ve cap money coming out their ears…

        Honestly, in all this, I think they’d be crazy to move him. They just need to quite being idiots in the FO and perhaps they can get something going…

  • This was a fun Q&A with Vance Walker about his former college teammate, WWE wrestler Roman Reigns.

    https://twitter.com/PostBroncos/status/715580709461581824

  • Nick
  • The Color Orange

    How do Broncos fans like this guy still exist? And how does Andrew Mason keep from blowing his own brains out?

    Andrew Mason‏@MaseDenver 12m12 minutes ago

    Twitter’s character limit still leaves me plenty of room for the answer to this question: “No.”

    “Any chance the Broncos sign Tebow for the vets minimum this year? The guy has won games with a worse defense, and I really don’t wanna see the butt fumble quarterbacking my team. I understand the weariness that comes with Tebow, but he wouldn’t be a bad stop-gap for a year if they can’t land a future starter in the draft.”

    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      Jesus Christ.

      • The Color Orange

        Mason’s follow-up tweet:
        Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 5m5 minutes ago

        There are still flat-earthers out there. There’s always some group of people willing to cling to almost anything.

      • Rhett Rothberg

        No, Tim Tebow… Jesus can throw the out…

        • RSH, Esq.

          Well played!

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          I assume he would have an astonishing rate of success on Hail Marys as well.

          • Rhett Rothberg

            Bazinga!

    • ohiobronco

      These people should be forced to watch this game on loop:
      http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201201010den.htm

    • Nick

      That question should be added to the long list he has pinned to the top of his Twitter account.

    • drewthorn

      The whole butt-fumble thing is fascinating to me. Lots of guys are guilty of bonehead plays. Few see their dumbest moment literally define them. To top it all off, the play in question wasn’t exactly all that ridiculous. I’ve seen far worse.

      • InSiemianWeTrust

        Cousins taking a knee instead of spiking the ball? = $20M

      • Nick

        I think what made that play so magnified was that it occurred on Thanksgiving night, and it was also the middle of three plays in which the Jets gave up 21 points in less than a minute of game time.

        • drewthorn

          I tend to complain bitterly about HoF bias towards the big media markets. The is an obvious example of the other side of the coin.

      • ohiobronco

        “I’ve seen far worse.”

        Like Tebow’s average pass attempt.

        • drewthorn

          Yep. Or Elway lining up behind RG.

      • RSH, Esq.

        Exactly. Did Peyton Manning’s awkward slide at Carolina in 2012, and Jake Plummer’s left handed slingshot interception under duress against Kansas City in 2004 at Denver end up defining their careers?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et040-ltRrQ

        http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=240912007

      • Alaskan

        Somehow John Elway survived lining up behind the guard as a rookie without that defining his career.

      • PiperAR

        Buckner, Bill
        Lifetime .300 hitter, best remembered for ground ball between the legs.

        • Nick

          He actually moved here to Boise and invested in a car dealership. Nice and far away from the intense Boston media market.

      • GrizzlyB

        It doesn’t help that the biggest sports media company is the nation is, for all intents and purposes, just a very large local company centered in Boston. And those same Massholes have some weird paranoid vendetta with the Jets (and Rex Ryan and Peyton Manning), where, to compensate for their fear, they try to loudly and brashly dismiss them as much as possible. So when a play like that happens against ESPN’s team, well, of course we’re never going to hear the end of it.

        And while I agree that he’s gotten a lot of undue flak over the years, it’s probably a good thing for Sanchez that our media market is so small and impotent; let’s face it, he already made a pretty weird unsolicited comment at his presser about being single, and we haven’t heard of it since. No chance that happens if he’s still on the East Coast.

        • Nick

          I wonder if Eli Manning is the only person on the face of the planet who wanted to be in the fiercest media market of them all (NY) and did not want to be in the timidest one (SD).

          • babsonjr

            Tebow to Jets instead of Jacksonville

  • InSiemianWeTrust

    Don’t know this guy but he checks the measurable boxes to cover big tight ends (which we very much need) 6’2, 4.34, hot damn. http://www.milehighreport.com/2016/3/31/11338890/2016-nfl-draft-broncos-reportedly-held-a-pre-draft-visit-with-safety

  • Rhett Rothberg
    • The Color Orange

      From there you can link to Benoit’s article about what each team with an unsettled QB situation should do. Money quote:

      “Some have speculated that the Broncos could be interested in doing it with Kaepernick. But you don’t need a mobile quarterback in order to have a move-oriented passing game. And you still want a QB with pocket fundamentals because at least half of your dropbacks will require that.”

  • RSH, Esq.
    • Nick

      As I said in my recent evaluation piece, the Broncos need to be looking for some safety depth if Bolden walks. That could very well be a drafted safety that could also be seen as a possible Darian Stewart replacement.

    • RSH, Esq.

      Gone. And for relatively de minimis pay.

      https://twitter.com/TroyRenck/status/715642397275721728

      • Nick

        That’s simply a case of having a better chance to start. Much easier to compete with Adrian Amos & an over-the-hill Antrel Rolle than Ward & Stewart.

        Also, at a rock bottom veteran minimum he shouldn’t qualify for the compensatory formula, not like it matters anyway.

      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        Wow. That’s cheap. That’s a disappointing loss.

  • Nick
  • The Color Orange
    • Rhett Rothberg

      I hope we can get Christian. Dude will be amazing in the slot

    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      I’m sure Max is a good kid but you only get what, 30 pre-draft visits? Is that a wise use of one? 83rd ranked WR available, per Scouts, Inc. There’s no way he gets drafted. And while the Broncos often dedicate several visits to potential undrafted rookie free agents so they can identify who they want to bring in after the draft, he’s just not an NFL talent.

      • Dirty_Sancheese

        I dunno, you often hear about bronco draft picks that say the team never showed interest in them. 30 meetings seems like more than enough. This meeting is a move for Elway to make it up to Eddie Mac for all the times he threw it high and got Eddie killed. Sign every McCaffrey available if you ask me.

        • ElwayIsGod7

          I still assume Ed goes down once a day fromantic random injuries.

      • drewthorn

        He’s probably got a better shot than the German kid that got his 15 minutes at NFL.com yesterday.

  • Lonestar47

    Scary concept mikey telling RG3 to be himself that is the kiss of death.

  • Nick

    It would be nice if you stayed in DC, Pot Roast.

    https://twitter.com/diannaESPN/status/715653854910492672

  • Kyle Milligan

    Question:
    With John fox poaching our free agents, I wonder enjoy much of a hand he had in drafting them?

    • Nick

      We all know how badly he wanted Lamin Barrow…

      But it would make sense if Elway and even Brian Xanders had some decent input in Elway’s early years.

    • RSH, Esq.

      I find it interesting that Fox’s Bears have signed various former Broncos, but that while head coach of the Broncos, Fox had become irritated with Elway for lack of input on personnel decisions.

      • Nick

        Still likely some familiarity bias at work just from being around with guys for a long time.

    • drewthorn

      I wonder how much it stung to watch the Broncos Super Bowl run? The media was immersed in the same sort of Broncos doomsaying over the talent Denver lost year, so it wouldn’t be a total stretch to suggest Kubiak did more with less. That has to jolt a guy’s pride at some level.

  • Nick

    Jason just wrote a mega article on Florio’s $1M veteran minimum proposal:

    http://overthecap.com/1-million-minimum-salary-sustainable-nfl/

    Very good, though I may have to tease him for writing this phrase:

    “From reading the comments at PFT”

  • Kush-Lash
    • Rhett Rothberg

      So how did you find this out?

      • Kush-Lash

        My wife, ahem, was watching the show and I noticed him. I was like,”is that, Mr. Diabolical, ergo, THE Stephen A Smith”?
        http://youtu.be/5rz-yulRIsw

    • Laces Out

      SAS should be ASS