• bradley

    Broncos’ De’Angelo Henderson OK after Jeep hit by stolen vehicle

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23504490/deangelo-henderson-denver-broncos-car-accident

    • G Mik

      This was posted yesterday. Freaky shit! So lucky that he is okay.

  • bradley
  • bradley

    Patriots reportedly making an unorthodox defensive hire to help team’s pass rush

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/patriots-reportedly-making-an-unorthodox-defensive-hire-to-help-teams-pass-rush/

    “According to the Boston Globe, the Patriots have hired martial arts expert Joe Kim as a pass-rushing consultant who will work with the team for the entire 2018 season. “

  • bradley

    LaCanfora: Dak Prescott’s areas of concern, Dion Lewis a big loss for Pats and more stat-based thoughts

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/dak-prescotts-areas-of-concern-dion-lewis-a-big-loss-for-pats-and-more-stat-based-thoughts/

    • Yahmule

      Dak is tough to grade. 32 starts in his first two seasons and a 45/17 TD/INT ratio (plus another dozen rushing scores) is very impressive, but he regressed statistically in every way possible last year. The Cowboy offense is very non threatening with the exception of Elliott. Dez is a statue with a coin flip catch rate. Terrence Williams, who is the very definition of replacement level, has somehow started 66 games for them the past five seasons. They’re scheduled to spend 56% of their money on offense this season on the O line, but the offense completely fell apart last season when Tyron Smith was injured.

      • cjfarls

        I put Dak more in the tier 3 Case Keenum (hopefully) level of QBs than I do in the Stafford/Cousins etc. tier 2. (lumping the HOF’s and upper “franchise” guys like Ryan & Rivers all in a big tier 1).

        Those guys are good enough to win with, but you don’t want them to be the best players on your team or you’re in deep trouble.

        • Yahmule

          I think Rivers has a lot to prove this year. LA was clearly the most talented team in the division last year and they failed to reach ten wins for the eighth year in a row. For context, the Broncos worst stretch in the post Orange Crush (76-present) era was six straight seasons without ten wins and two of those years were poisoned by McDaniels. Rivers is eight games under .500 without LT.

          People talk about how the Broncos have two draft classes with all the green guys from last season, but LA basically redshirted Mike Williams and Forrest Lamp last year.

          • G Mik

            Lamp looks like he’ll make an excellent Guard. Williams’ talent is off the charts. Will be interesting to see them healthy and with a year of education under their belts. San Diego certainly feels like the team to beat in the AFCW.

          • cjfarls

            Its really pretty astounding… The bolts seem to constantly play below their talent, but its hard for me to attribute that to Rivers… for the better part of the past decade, he’s seemingly been one of the brightest lights on that team, which seems to ever find new ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

            I’m not a big believer in “QB wins” as a good metric of performance, and Rivers would be one of my prime exhibits…. like Romo, there are just dozens of cases where he set the team up to win, and then the team let him down.

            I hate Rivers, but in my opinion DEN would be lucky if he’d been our QB the past 15 years (despite the joy that was 2012-2014 with Manning).

          • Yahmule

            I think the question we might need to start asking is why do all these different players make mistakes late in games for him? Phillip is my exhibit A of why I hate “fiery” quarterbacks. During winning time, I want a field general who transmits calmness and confidence to the players in the huddle. Not a guy who’s throwing tantrums and displaying the body language of a pouty teenager.

          • bradley

            Joe Montana, JE, and PM come to mind.

          • gobroncos

            Meh, I’ll take two Superbowl trips and a SB win with Manning over having Rivers the past 15 years and never going to the SB.

  • bradley

    Cleveland Browns add fifth quarterback in last two months, signing Brogan Roback

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/browns/2018/05/14/cleveland-browns-fifth-quarterback-two-months-brogan-roback/607476002/

    Monday, the team signed former Eastern Michigan passer Brogan Roback, at least the fifth new quarterback on the roster since the 2017 regular season ended.

  • Nick

    Annual outlook for the next offseason in 2019 here:

    https://in-thinair.com/2018/05/15/looking-ahead-to-the-broncos-2019-offseason/

  • The Color Orange
  • RSH
    • The Color Orange

      According to MHH, there was a serious problem with rookies from last year’s class being late to meetings, and Jarrett was the worst offender. The Broncos liked Jarrett’s potential, but reached a point where they could not tolerate his behavior anymore. These things get around, and that’s likely why Jarrett hasn’t latched on with another team. MHH also speculated, but does not know, that interacting with Kollar during minicamp might have caused Lotulelei to decide to hang it up. Veterans like Derek Wolfe and Malik Jackson have said that Kollar takes an adjustment period, and if your heart isn’t in it 100% you’re not going to make it with him.

      • cjfarls

        Good insights if true.

  • RSH
    • Yahmule

      The Roman mullett, neckbeard, pubic hair mustache, horn rimmed glasses look is hot right now.

      https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/990811651468296192/8dEiEJGD_400x400.jpg

      • DCJ1

        What? The headshot wasn’t a faked up photo to troll the networks? He actually wants to look like a background extra from the McKenzie Brothers movie? Good lord, kids these days.

        And get off my damn lawn!

        • Yahmule

          He’s a little scamp, that one.

    • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

      This dude gets more ass than a toilet seat. What a pimp?!

    • Steven_Searls

      Be interesting to see what haircut the Broncos vets gave him if he were in our TC next year.

  • RSH

    The Broncos are lacking depth at the nose tackle position. I am bearish on the short-term and long-term returns of Kyle Peko. Jonathan Hankins remains a free agent. If the price is right, Hankins would be an excellent get this late into the offseason. His play has not peaked yet. Hankins’ already solid game would only get better from working with Bill Kollar and Domata Peko.

    • Sparks

      How much do you think he’d cost?

      • Nick

        Only likely way they’re going to get him cheapish is on a one year deal.

      • RSH

        Nose tackle Bennie Logan signed a one-year, $4 million deal with the Tennessee Titans this offseason. Hankins probably wants similar money, which I think would be fair, but I doubt the Broncos would want to pay that much for a rotational nose tackle.

  • RSH

    With the reported retirement of one Utah Ute from the Broncos’ roster yesterday, the Broncos may find it necessary to replace him with another Ute and old friend, albeit at a different position.

    https://twitter.com/PredomOrange/status/995807894800162816

    • Yahmule

      Wonderful human being, but even more washed up than Decker.

    • QDoc

      I’d rather see what Dielman can do. He may be the best Ute we have on the roster.

    • RyanHennigan

      Always liked Zane mostly because he also has a degree in Mechanical Engineering.

  • Hank Mardukis
  • RSH

    I think it is fair to say that the dead season is upon or nearly upon us. I hope to put together an article or two between now and training camp.

    • Nick

      I just got out the 2019 offseason preview, and I’ll try to find for extension articles for Paradis, Roby, and Ray/Barrett soon.

    • Sparks

      Care to divulge possible topics?

      • RSH

        1. How head coaches, given a second season following a losing first season, fared in their second and any subsequent seasons
        2. What the 2018 Broncos’ Offense May Look Like Under Bill Musgrave and the New Offensive Assistant Coaches

        • Sparks

          Fantastic. I look forward to both RSH.

          • Sparks

            I should add that I’ll be keen to get your take on how Jano (or the FB in general) might fit into Musgrave’s Keenum-led offense. We had discussed this briefly the other day but I believe he has been underutilized for 2 years now and hope they start using him more.

          • RSH

            As a teaser, I think this could go either way, but I will definitely address Musgrave’s previous use of the fullback position in offenses that he has been the offensive coordinator and/or other offensive coach.

          • BlackKnigh

            I wonder if Jano will end up being in the RB rotation as well as being used as a FB. At Nebraska – he had some pretty good runs.

  • Nick
    • Yahmule

      That’s too bad. A lot of writers will be looking for any excuse to keep him out of the Hall of Fame and they’ll love this.

      • DCJ1

        It was a banned substance, but not a PED. Source I read said it was a steroid based diuretic drug commonly prescribed in the Dominican Republic.

        • Yahmule

          Masking drug.

          There’s just really no viable excuse for coming up dirty. If you have something you want to take and aren’t sure, you can send it to MLB and they’ll analyze it and tell you if it contains any banned elements.

  • RSH

    I hope that trading the 160th selection back to the Rams does not turn out to be a mistake. Tim Settle, a very athletic, large nose tackle, was there for the taking at that spot. He ended up being selected by Washington with the 163rd selection, which ironically, the Broncos traded to Washington in March as part of the Su’a Cravens deal.

    Based on yesterday’s retirement of Lowell Lotulelei, Domata Peko’s advanced age, and lack of depth at the position, I have some concerns about the nose tackle position in both the short-term and long-term. Settle offered great value in the fifth round and would have provided a nice rotational piece this season and an heir apparent to Domata Peko in 2019.

    • Tim

      I agree with this, I really question they took in the later rounds of quantity instead of quality. But it seemed like they were making a very strong attempt to improve their special teams in the later rounds and I doubt Settle fits into that category. I would much rather have preferred him.

      • cjfarls

        Yep – Their 6th/7th rounders to me looked not much functionally different than folks they brought in as UDFAs, while there were a number of players I liked still on the board at 160.
        ST is important though, so I guess that is a plausible argument…. but given the small UDFA class/limited number of roster spots to fill, it doesn’t seem like a bunch of late round picks was good value. Hopefully one of the late round guys blows up and proves me wrong.

        • Sparks

          If you give any credence to what that hack MarsLineman is selling 🙂 then David Williams might just be that late round guy.

          • cjfarls

            The big question being… would anybody else have drafted him had we not? We may have been able to get him as a UDFA anyway.
            He’s interesting, but is he really that much better a prospect than Lindsay?
            It all will be hindsight from here on out, so all I can hope is that these kids surprise.

          • Sparks

            “would anybody else have drafted him had we not?” I think you could say this about every one of the 7th round selections. It’s not exactly apples to apples as they are a much deeper team than we are, but the Eagles selected this 6’8″ 346 lb mountain of a man that basically got too big to continue playing his first love – Rugby – in the 7th.

            https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2018/5/14/17351392/jordan-mailata-eagles-rugby-leaguer-player-australia-nfl-draft-2018-philadelphia-offensive-tackle

            Even putting my homerism aside, I believe Lindsay is the better prospect. I think he brings a skillset to the team that none of the others do. He’s the fastest of the backs. He has some return skills to be in that mix as well. I agree it’ll be fun to watch this RB corp this year. When all is said and done, Booker might be on the outside looking in. I say this as a fan of Booker’s too.

      • FloydLittle44

        Me too. I didn’t want to whine because I loved this draft up until those 5th round trades.

        I mean, we could have had Tyrell Crosby OT Oregon at 149 and then Tim Settle at 160. I would take them in a heartbeat over the four players we picked up in later rounds.

        I still love this draft more than any previous Elway draft. It’s just that it could have been better.

    • FloydLittle44

      When the free agent signings were pretty much over the story was that our needs had been met and now Elway could go into this draft selecting the best players available. That was a false narrative. This draft (and marginally free agency) went a long way in addressing many of the holes on the roster. Depth at NT and production at TE still concern me.

  • Yahmule

    Poor AJ Pollock. Second best player in MLB named after a fish and probably top ten overall when fully healthy. Unfortunately, he’s only been fully healthy once in six years and last night he derailed an MVP caliber season with a thumb injury. It’s kind of amazing how well AZ has played with Goldschmidt having a nightmare season and Souza, Lamb and Walker all down for substantial parts of the season. This is a killer.

    • Aren’t you a LAD fan? Not to root for injury, but Dodgers need all the help they can get at this point.

      • Yahmule

        I grew up rooting for the Dodgers, but stopped having favorite teams when I began putting down house payment sized entry fees in roto baseball leagues.

        The Dodgers have had buzzard luck from hell this season between Kershaw, Seager, Turner, Puig and others. Not to mention Kenley Jansen’s brutal season to this point.

  • The Color Orange

    This looks like an interesting article. Unfortunately, it costs money.

    https://twitter.com/TheAthleticDEN/status/996465909421129728

    • G Mik

      Why would you do that to us?!? When you said it costs money – I was equating that to the title of the article. Otherwise why post it. Ha!

      • The Color Orange

        It’s always possible (although unlikely) that someone here pays for The Athletic.

        • G Mik

          I read what they gave us and it looks like a super interesting piece. Clearly you felt the same.

          • DragonPie

            I signed up just to read that article. So far, it’s not too bad, but it’s not really that huge either.

            Basically, it’s saying that the Broncos have an analytics dude who says punting on fourth and one sucks and that there’s probably tons of stuff analytics dudes could say. Denver signed a couple other analytics dudes.

            Also, VJ saw some analytics dudes doing analytic shit in Miami and it apparently didn’t suck.

            Not a bad little read, but not groundbreaking or anything either.

            I’m gonna go ahead and cancel that membership now.

            This is a hilarious article title, though:

            https://theathletic.com/347176/2018/05/08/ben-roethlisberger-veterans-mentoring-broncos-von-miller-darian-stewart/

          • G Mik

            You’re a scholar and a gentleman! More analytics is a good thing IMO. If you have a good offense it makes sense to take chances on 4-1. With the Broncos O the past few years, our chances would not be to the mean.

          • DragonPie

            Even a league worst offense should probably go for it on fourth and one. It’s possible that a league best offense should always go for it on fourth and five. (Don’t know the numbers, but I think that’s reasonable) Analytics have absolutely shown that an average defense should definitely go for it against a league average defense.

    • DragonPie

      I was thinking if signing up and then immediately canceling after reading the article.

  • RSH
    • RSH

      Up Vote for Yes

      • Tim

        I have a lot of worries about this, mostly in how the government will structure the taxes and what they will do with the money. That will be the biggest indicator on how I would vote for it. While I think that sports betting should be legal due to individual liberty, I am still quite upset on how the government structured the taxes on marijuana. We were promised they would go to education and that has turned out to be a huge joke.

        • gnasses

          I would tend to agree, but feel this is another case where the pros very much outweigh the cons. I always think that even if it feels regressive, taxes on things that are optional to consume are better than taxes on essential items, localized taxes, or straight across the board taxes.

          Besides, instead of a Vegas trip for March Madness or Bowl Game season like I frequently did when I was younger, now all the old friends can go for a reunion and meet back in CO!

          • Tim

            Absolutely agree that the pros outweigh the cons, but that scares me. I foresee the government agreeing with you and taking complete advantage of the taxes and regulations, knowing that people will vote for it. I really hope someone puts pressure on them and holds them accountable for actions.

            Of course, they just took 2% of my paycheck over the next two years due to a mistake they made over a decade ago. So I have a lot of pent up anger towards them.

        • Sparks

          I ask because I truly don’t know – where are the taxes for marijuana going then?

          • RSH

            https://www.9news.com/article/news/where-does-all-that-colorado-pot-tax-go/73-298554132 From Aug. 2016:

            Supporters of Amendment 64 hyped the idea that they’d raise money for schools. They didn’t lie—the wholesale tax on pot is entirely dedicated to schools.

            The first $40 million goes to a state program called BEST, which awards grants to local school districts to build and improve school facilities.

            Again, $40 million is not enough to build a bunch of schools and change the face of education in the state, but it is producing tangible upgrades through the BEST program, particularly in rural districts.

            This most recent year, the state collected $2.6 million above that $40 million cap. That money is transferred to a public school fund, where it contributes a tiny amount to the $5.4 billion cost of running public schools each year in Colorado.

            The sales tax raises even more money. Local governments get a 15 percent cut of the state’s special sales tax on pot, which was worth about $10 million in the fiscal year that just ended.

            The rest of the 10 percent special sales tax and all of the regular 2.9 percent sales tax (about $76.5 million in the last fiscal year) are free to be spent by the state legislature.

            Since marijuana became legal, lawmakers have generally worked out agreements to apply significant portions of that money to enforcing marijuana laws and treatment and education programs to address the impact of marijuana use on society.

          • JMac

            Yep, humans are not very good at dealing with big numbers. $40M sounds like a lot of money until you realize schools already cost $5400M – It’s just a drop in the bucket.

          • Tim

            And it goes past that too. Of the money that schools get, they can only go towards building maintence or building new buildings and the school district has to match the funds. Plus it’s mainly in the rural schools, so my district has yet to see a single dollar from it.

            It was just a horribly written bill and I fear the betting one will be the same.

          • RSH

            That is one of the reasons that I voted no on Amendment 64. I am not opposed to the legalization of recreational marijuana per se, but I do not think that any such right should contained within a constitution, particularly where an amendment is poorly written and does not provide for flexible educational funding.

          • bradley

            It was the will of the people that marijuana be legal. The only way it could become a reality was through a Constitutional Amendment. States should maybe look into some other way for the voters to pass new laws, or amend old ones, but in the meantime, who cares how it’s done?

          • RSH

            So just because it was the will of the majority of Coloradoans in 2012, I could not/cannot have a dissenting opinion on the matter? Last time I checked, the U.S. and Colorado Constitutions provide such a right in both expression and voting.

          • bradley

            I tried arguing the dissenting opinion in my first year of law school. You know how that went.

          • Sparks

            Thanks for the link/reply. So, if I’m reading this correctly, marijuana taxes add up to ~$120M and of that ~64% (76.5M) is free to be spent anywhere with the remaining ~36% (42.6M) is dedicated to schools/education? That doesn’t seem like a very equitable split.
            If I’m not mistaken, some counties in Colorado are dry counties. Does any of this money go to schools in those counties?

          • JMac

            Didn’t Colorado also vote to RETURN $60M in MJ Tax revenue at the end of 2015 because we collected more tax than anticipated?

            It ended up at about $11/person – which is a dumb refund. I would have much preferred to see that extra money go to schools.

          • Sparks

            I didn’t know that. I vote to give my $11 to Tim.

          • Tim

            Haha thanks!

          • cjfarls

            I don’t think it was a vote… I think it was a TABOR requirement (or maybe we voted to not overturn the TABOR requirement). Anyway, agree completely… just use the money already collected for the things we collectively need.

          • JMac

            Yep TABOR requirement was to return it (or something like that), and the vote was to overturn and just spend it since it has already been collected. The vote went the way of refund.

          • Tim

            That’s a good breakdown. It’s a giant mess

    • RSH

      Up Vote for No

  • Yahmule

    Former Rockie Jordan Lyles perfect through five against his old team.

    • Tim

      Watching the game, Rockie’s offense is so bad this year

      • Sparks

        I’ve only watched a few games but why isn’t Blackmon leading off?

        • Tim

          He has the day off and he’s been pretty underwhelming over the last few weeks. I’m hoping the day off can help get him on track

          • BlackKnigh

            The guy who has been killing the ball is Jankowski of SD. Batting .370 right now.

      • Yahmule

        You go into a season without a legitimate first baseman and resign a clearly washed up player just because he’s well liked and you can’t really be surprised when you struggle to score runs. The Rockies have no discernable organizational philosophy.

        If Lyles pounded the strike zone like this in Colorado, they never would have let him go. 62 pitches and 48 for strikes. 18 up and 18 down.

        • Tim

          Agree completely, the Desmond signing has the potential to close their contention window before it really opened. 3 years left and he is one of the 5 worst hitters in baseball so far this season

          • Yahmule

            I was furious at that signing. I don’t consider myself a Rockies fan, but I want them to do well. They forfeited the 11th pick in the 2017 MLB draft with that ridiculous signing. Max Scherzer, Andrew McCutchen and George Springer are former number 11 picks.

          • Tim

            Losing the draft pick was just icing on the cake. When he was signed, I don’t think anyone foresaw this level of awfulness but to pay $22 million this season for it hurts. Rockies had such a great chance with the starting pitching, Nolan, and Blackmon, but I think it will be squandered away and Nolan will be playing somewhere else soon

          • Yahmule

            I’m not too surprised to see him sucking this badly. This is a guy who struck out 530 times in his three seasons prior to coming to Colorado. He rode a ridiculously flukey .402 BABIP and 21.7 % HR/FB to a great first half in 2016, but he has been a below average player for quite a while now. Washington dumped him when they only had Danny Espinosa behind him, which tells you a lot.

          • Yahmule

            A real bright spot this year has been Kyle Freeland. He’s finally getting the swinging strikes his kind of stuff should be generating. Up from a very weak 7.5% last year to a respectable 10.4% this year. He needs to get that up a little more, but he’s definitely trending in the right direction. He’s abandoned the sinker against right handers who stroked the shit out of it early in the year. He’s going with hard stuff up in the zone against them now and it has made a huge difference. All these guys looking for the perfect launch angle are much more susceptible to high fastballs now. I bid freely (hah) on him in FAAB last Sunday.

            https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/kyle-freeland-is-succeeding-with-elevation/

    • Yahmule

      And Chris Rusin gives up a no doubt homer to a guy with one hit in his last 39 at bats.

    • Nick

      Now perfect through seven…

    • Tim

      I’m cheering for this to happen. I hope it forces the FO to make some changes

      • Yahmule

        Story broke it up after 22 straight.

    • Nick

      Trevor Story ends it all.

    • Tim

      And it’s over