• bradley

    76ers player explains why he dumped the Steelers after meeting Ben Roethlisberger

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/76ers-player-explains-why-he-dumped-the-steelers-after-meeting-ben-roethlisberger/

    “I met Roethlisberger awhile ago when I was little, but it wasn’t too good of an interaction,” McConnell said. “I respect him as a player, but he wasn’t exactly the nicest guy.”

    • Drewredux

      I’ve heard Elway isn’t exactly a treat, himself.

      • Yahmule

        You or I probably wouldn’t get close to him, but I’ve never heard of him being an asshole to a kid.

        • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

          He signed my 75th Anniversary jersey! But right after he was dick to some other asshole who said JDR was “Big Timing” him for not giving him an autograph. Elway’s words were “does he owe you anything?” I think just like anyone else who would be thrusted into that sort of lifestyle, sometimes you’re cool with it, and sometimes you’re annoyed. His right.

        • Drewredux

          I heard a few anecdotes, first hand, that he was a bad approach in a bar or restaurant in his playing days.

          I get that, actually. I never approach famous people trying to have normal lives. It seems presumptuous and intrusive.

          • pubkeeper

            I’ve heard a few anecdotes first hand as well that were just the opposite. Easy to approach, affable and accommodating.

          • Yahmule

            I think it’s mainly about how and where you approach him.

            I worked in Studio City for a while and I saw some brutal rejections. Fred Dryer was an asshole, but he was also hilarious in the way he checked this dude. Tony Danza signed, but had to make the guy feel like shit first.

            I’ve asked for three autographs in my life. I was 19 the last time I did it. All my experiences were good. I probably would have asked a couple other times, but I especially don’t want to be can-I-have-your-autograph-do-you-have-a-pen guy.

          • Drewredux

            I just avoid it. I saw John Ritter get harassed out of the Steamboat Hot Springs once. Saw Meg Ryan get run out of Champions in Denver. Saw John Lithgow and his kids drag a comet tail through Seaworld one afternoon.

            The one autograph I did jockey to get was Ryne Sandberg at spring training, but he’d already played and had offered himself to the fence line. I even followed his rule: kids first.

            He was my second and last baseball hero, after Thurman Munson.

          • Yahmule

            I threw my glove off Andre Dawson’s chest at Dodger Stadium when I was 16. He signed it beautifully – like all of his signatures – and threw it back. My other autographs came from Annie Lennox and Dave Stewart. I met Dave’s ex-wife at a concert, she invited me to one of their video shoots and I got autographs from both of them. I did forget that I also got 80 year old Juan Marichal’s autograph at a little league fund raising event before spring training last year. Also beautifully signed. Unfortunately, a lot of great athletes have poor signatures now. I don’t like these illegible first letter and some scribbling that passes for autographs now. If Harmon Killebrew could sign that long ass name this nicely, nobody has any excuse for some chicken scratching.

            https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbXgcKRWAAIWYk_.jpg

            https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/362153711137_/Harmon-Killebrew-Signed-Baseball-AUTO-Autograph-w-COA.jpg

            https://www.officialfanpackage.com/image/cache/catalog/ofp_products/Andre%20Dawson%20Chicago%20Cubs%20Baseball%20Official%20MLB%20The%20Hawk%2020918-500×500.jpg

          • Prater2Beadles4Six

            I got a pic with him at a Buffs tailgate. He was mildly annoyed, but overall nice considering he was just trying to hang out. It was also well after his playing days.

          • bradley

            I ran into Johnny Cash one night in Missoula. I knew a young woman (I was young then too) named Marianne who worked a few nights a week as a bartender at the Missoula Hilton and I’d go there some times to flirt and have a drink. One night Marianne was disgusted with the rest of the staff there because Cash was expected soon and they were all atwitter.
            Anyway, I left and stopped just outside to enjoy the fine autumn night. Something made me glance to my right and there was Cash, leaning on his car, looking very tired. Our eyes met and his told me to not even think about it. I went on by.

          • Sparks

            Even a meeting of the eyes with Cash would be quite the experience.

          • bradley

            It was. He had a power that not many have. I was surprised at how short he was, though.

          • SteveS

            I think most people are surprised at how short a lot of famous people are. Whether it’s psychological or just the way TV and movies are shot, it’s truly an eye-opener. An example: based on watching tennis back on TV in the early 70’s, I had always assumed that Bjorn Borg was about 6’1”; in actuality, he’s about 5’9″.

        • SteveS

          Might be just me, but I simply don’t understand the allure of autographs. I can see it for kids, but at some point, everyone needs to understand that all humans are just that – humans. They’re not inherently special and in many/most cases just want to be left alone occasionally. It’s fine to cheer for, admire, be inspired by, etc., but I think idolatry is already too big a thing. Others obviously have different views . . .

          • bradley

            I’ve never understood the thing about autographs. You end up with a box of dusty pieces of paper that no one wants to look at.
            I’ve only had one in my life – my mother got it for me when I was about ten.

          • T. Jensen

            I think with cell phones its turned to selfies with celebrities instead.

            IMO asking for autographs is dumb unless its an athlete and you are at a place where you expect athletes to be and have a photo, card, jersey, ball to sign.

            That being said I do have a receipt with Jim Morrison’s autograph on it. (He signed it for my mom when she was in high school as a diner waitress, I’ve never had it legitimatized though.)

          • cjfarls

            Agree with this. I love autographs on associated memorabilia (e.g. musicians on a CD, athletes on a ball/jersey, etc.), but the randomn signature doesn’t do much for me. I can see why selfies are the new “thing”.

          • T. Jensen

            My wife sold all of our cds/dvds. We are completely digital which is good and bad…

            I own a cd/dvd drive in my laptop and my 2011 car has an empty 6 disc cd player. We bought a new van last year and it doesn’t have a cd or dvd player.

            I also don’t own any dvd/blu ray/game consoles (except and old wii that doesn’t play cd/dvd).

          • cjfarls

            My wife has tried to have me get rid of my CDs… I resist, even though I pretty much never listen to them and they just collect dust in a closet. But hey, if my computer gets wiped (and the backup drive), I’ll have them… so there!

          • VonSwenson

            There’s a handful of his autographs for sale on eBay – you can see if it matches…

          • Yahmule

            I didn’t know getting an autograph was an indicator of idolatry. It must be exhausting for people who have dozens or hundreds or autographs to worship that many people. Or maybe it’s a hobby like anything else.

          • SteveS

            Sorry – I certainly didn’t mean to insult and never mean to do so. I perhaps should have chosen my words a little better, but did state both that I didn’t understand and that others surely have a different opinion. I erred in linking autograph collecting with a personal pet peeve, the fawning of many over celebrities, be they actors, athletes, politicians, etc. I enjoy your takes on this site and apologize for my unintended slight.

      • Hank Mardukis

        Hmmm, I’ve heard he’s intense, but I’ve known several people that have run into him around the city asking for autographs and not one said he was rude or difficult to deal with.

        • Drewredux

          We are all human, I guess. My ‘sources’ must of caught him at bad times. 😀

          • Hank Mardukis

            Despite the millions of dollars and the constant adoration I can understand wanting to get a beer and to be left alone with your thoughts. I wouldn’t begrudge the guy if he wasn’t in the mood to sign autographs especially in his playing days when he wanted to relax.

      • QDoc

        The only celebrity I’ve run into was Andre 3000 (from Outkast) at LaGuardia while waiting for a flight. I worked for a toilet paper company at the time, and we literally talked about toilet paper for about 20 minutes. Super chill guy. Several people asked him for autographs and he gave them, even though he said he had a terrible headache.

    • TiredOfWinning

      McConnell became a Bengal fan after the interaction; so it’s probably safe to say “wasn’t exactly the nicest guy” is a euphemism.

  • bradley

    Chris Trapasso: Saquon Barkley, Roquan Smith top list of 32 NFL rookies who’ll make an instant impact

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/saquon-barkley-roquan-smith-top-list-of-32-nfl-rookies-wholl-make-an-instant-impact/

    • Tim

      I have wondered if the Broncos would have been better off with a day 2 of Conner Williams-Gallup-Yiadom and grab Ballage or Kelly in the fourth.

      • Yahmule

        It concerns me that Demario Richard had significantly more carries than Ballage (198-157) in one fewer game played. Richard was an afterthought UDFA who clocked a 4.7 in Indy. And you can’t blame the coaches as Richard’s yards per carry was much better, too (5.2 to 4.3).

        https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/arizona-state/2017.html

    • G Mik

      The Broncos coaches got to coach Gallup in the Sr Bowl. And he hung around plenty long. If he was worth taking I would hope they would have taken him. I’m rooting for him to do well and Dallas could be a great fit but he could be more of a Carlos Henderson. We’ll see.

  • bradley

    Prisco: NFL Power Rankings: Super Bowl champion Eagles still the team to beat after free agency, draft

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-power-rankings-super-bowl-champion-eagles-still-the-team-to-beat-after-free-agency-and-draft/

    “After all the moves, one thing is the same as it was after the 2017 season: The Philadelphia Eagles remain the best team in the league.
    “The team that won the Super Bowl with a backup quarterback, without their starting left tackle and starting middle linebacker, has improved from the group that beat New England.”

    • FloydLittle44

      Howie Roseman has been on a hot streak and is running circles around the rest of the league GM’s. Maybe he should have been the Super Bowl MVP.

    • RSH

      Absent a Super Bowl matchup between the teams, I am grateful that the Broncos will not play the Eagles again until 2021.

    • Alaskan

      Prisco has Denver rated below the Bills and the Bungles ??

      • G Mik

        Well…. We did this last year when everyone panned us and thought we’d be shit. Then we exceeded their poor expectations to the negative – being even worse than expected. Until VJ proves he can coach, we shouldn’t be expected to do much of anything or be surprised when people expect a 5-11 team with the most blowouts in the league last year to be a 5-11 team again this year.

        I see the improvement at QB and hope Musgrave can get a lot out of this offense. If not, we will be awful again.

        • Steven_Searls

          You speak harshly but you speak the truth.

        • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

          When I watched the Senior Bowl, and it had the same vibe as a Bronco game, I knew we were in for some shit.

          • G Mik

            All in all that game really doesn’t mean anything but after the media reports of our practices not being as crisp as the south’s and considering all of the blowouts this past season, it felt like it meant something. Something familiar and stinky.

  • The Color Orange
    • gobroncos

      But damn, if he was a little faster that would have been a TFL instead of a first down.

      • Yahmule

        It’s pretty amazing that he even got a hand on him. That was a wideout who was carrying that reverse and he and Jewell are nearly even as Jewell is still changing direction. Jewell’s further impeded by the heady play of the left tackle who sees him read the play and reaches a hand out to slow him. I also think he knocked him out short of the marker.

      • Sparks

        Of course if he was a little faster, he would have been a top 20 pick instead of pick 106 in the 4th round with his productivity, leadership, game speed and instincts.

        • Yahmule

          Not everyone can be Roquan Smith.

          • Sparks

            Interesting comparison. The only combine stat I can find for Smith was his 40 at 4.51, so I couldn’t see where Jewell stacked up in the other drills.

          • Yahmule

            That’s all Roquan did in Indy. Jewell’s 3 cone score was impressive. Most of the players who scored higher than him were CB and WR.

            http://nflcombineresults.com/nflcombinedata_expanded.php

        • gobroncos

          True.

      • RSH

        Jewell ran a 4.68 at his pro day. IMHO, Jewell’s instincts, intelligence, and ability to diagnose a play before it happens is better than being ultra-fast. At the 2010 NFL Combine, Sean Lee was clocked at 4.71 in the 40. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LeexSe99.htm.

        https://twitter.com/hawkcentral/status/978376464700792832

        • gobroncos

          In the NFL, it’s not always one set of skills or the other. It’s often required to have the full compliment of skills to succeed. But as Sparks pointed out, if he was faster, he’d have been a 1st round pick. I’ll I’m doing is tempering my expectations. Once he’s played and made an impact, then I’ll ease off on the “he’s too slow” comments.

      • Jason

        I thought he did very well keeping the runner from making the corner. A LB catching a WR is nothing to sneeze at.

    • Yahmule

      That was impressive. Even how quickly he initially triggers on that play is eye catching. Compare him to number 41, who would probably be better off just keying off Jewell.

    • FloydLittle44

      It doesn’t matter how much speed you have if you aren’t in position or dancing around a blocker.

    • RSH

      This guy is a football player, plain and simple. He is not a height, weight, speed specimen, but my guess is he will have a much more productive career than many who are bigger, faster, and have more “measurables.”

      • Sparks

        He was one of my 3 initial favorite picks of our entire draft – Chubb (duh), and Hamilton being the others. I’d be remiss if I didn’t throw out a special mention for Lindsay as I include him as part of the draft ‘haul’, even though he was UDFA.

        • Drewredux

          He does get sucked into blocks like they are black holes sometimes. That is my only nagging concern.

          • Sparks

            Agreed. He’s not a finished product by any means, but he’s a heckuva piece of clay that can be molded. From everything I’ve seen, he’ll take to the coaching like a sponge.

      • Drewredux

        I have fully anticipated naming my new puppy Roby, but Josey is suddenly in the mix.

        (I have a long tradition of naming my pets after Broncos or Buffs.)

        • Sparks

          As a kid, we had a cat named Bucky after Bucky Dilts – old Broncos punter. His only real claim to fame is he was the punter in SB XII against the Cowboys. He only had 4 punts in that game (38.3 avg) but would have been more if it wasn’t for the 4 INT’s and 4 lost fumbles that we had. Dallas set a record that day with 8 recovered fumbles – our 4 and 4 of their own. Many don’t remember that Dallas actually fumbled more than we did (6). They only lost 2 though. In a game that was lost by 17 points, we lost the TO battle 8-2. I’m going to quit reminiscing now – I’m depressing myself.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucky_Dilts

          • Drewredux

            Jack Doblin was probably my very first favorite. It quickly moved to Bob Swenson.

            That was probably the ugliest SB ever played. Niether team had their mojo, really.

          • Sparks

            My first favorite was Alzado.

          • Drewredux

            I loved them all, really. Especially when the light really came on.

          • Yahmule

            We tried to block Randy White with Tom Glasic.

          • bradley

            Glassic was a fine LG. But he’d been ill and by the SB was down to 220 lbs. He did as good as possible under the circumstances.

          • Yahmule

            He played with little toy soldiers in his spare time.

          • bradley

            So did Winston Churchill.

          • Yahmule

            To his credit, there’s no evidence of Tom starving millions of Indians.

          • bradley

            Churchill did that?

          • Yahmule

            Over four million people died in the Bengal Famine, (caused in no small part by British colonial rule) when Churchill diverted food to Greece in 1943. Then he said they deserved it because they breed like rabbits. He was also a huge advocate of chemical weapons. Here’s a jolly quote: “I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes.”

          • bradley

            Where do you get this stuff?

          • Yahmule

            Where do I get that the British Raj devastated the Indian subcontinent? Pretty common knowledge to anyone who wishes to know it.

            http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2031992,00.html

          • bradley

            Sounds like hearsay.

          • Yahmule

            A lot of white people can’t handle their history without a plenty of revisionism.

          • bradley

            So you’re saying Tharoor is guilty of revisionism?
            I doubt that Churchill diverted food to Greece in 1943, since Greece had been occupied bu the Axis since May, 1941.

  • Nick
  • Nick

    She suggests Corey Coleman could be traded. That would stretch the absence of Browns 1st round picks into 2016.

    https://twitter.com/MaryKayCabot/status/993949136973156353

    • Steven_Searls

      Trade him to whom? Most teams are unlikely to take on an unproven commodity. I wouldn’t begin to know what his trade value would be.

    • Yahmule

      From Braylon Edwards to Greg Little to Corey Coleman, the Browns have zeroed in on the hard to cover, brickhands wide receiver.

  • RSH

    Bucky Brooks projects that three Denver Broncos’ draft selections, including third and fourth rounds picks, will be selected to the 2018 All-Rookie Team.

    https://twitter.com/NFL/status/994015366459338754

    Running back: Royce Freeman, Denver Broncos (Round 3, No. 71). Just because Freeman enters the league as a third-round pick, that doesn’t mean he’s not positioned to be an immediate impact player. The ex-Oregon standout spits out 100-yard games like an ATM machine as the perfect companion to Case Keenum in the Broncos’ backfield.

    Edge: Bradley Chubb, Denver Broncos (Round 1, No. 5). Chubb is a lock for 10-plus sacks playing opposite Von Miller. He is an explosive rusher who flashes violent hands and powerful combat skills turning the corner on the way to the quarterback.

    Linebacker: Josey Jewell, Denver Broncos (Round 4, No. 106). With Von Miller and Chubb controlling the game on the edges, Jewell sucks up running backs like a vacuum cleaner as the Broncos’ designated hitter in the middle.

    • QDoc

      Wow. As much as I like the enthusiasm, I am tempering my expectations. If we get 7 sacks from Chubb, that will be a solid rookie showing. That, and he shows he can consistently set the edge against the run.

  • The Color Orange
    • Sparks

      What’s with the trick photography??

    • Yahmule

      Dating back to his days as a 20 year old in rookie ball, no league has ever batted higher than .188 against Edwards.

      https://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=13607&position=P

      • The Color Orange

        The occasional loss of control is the only thing holding him back from becoming an elite closer.

        • Yahmule

          Bouts of wildness are part of the CJE Experience, but his command is getting sharper every year. I’m actually surprised Morrow is still healthy, given his history and the way the Dodgers abused him in the post season last year.

    • Yahmule

      I’m heading out to Coors to see Mike Trout this afternoon. :~)

      • TiredOfWinning

        Is there a less appreciated/popular all-time great athlete than Trout?

        • Yahmule

          Not by me. :~)

          I flew out to California specifically to see him as a rookie. I was also lucky enough to catch him in Houston a couple years ago. Bought these tickets as soon as I knew the Angels were coming to town this year.

          What’s funny is almost everyone acknowledges he’s the best player in MLB, but he’s still kind of taken for granted. I don’t think he likes a lot of attention and is fairly content with things the way they are. He’s almost kind of deliberately boring in interviews.

      • Hank Mardukis

        I’m probably going to try to grab a cheap ticket after the first inning myself.

  • The Color Orange
  • MarsLineman

    Hi guys- mea culpa, I should have included Royce Freeman in the anterior-dominant post from yesterday. His upper-thoracic injury last season (especially combined with the general difficulties of using college tape) threw me for a loop. Once I started studying film from earlier seasons, the 2017 injury became apparent, and his profile made itself clear. I’ll include his write-up in the next post

    • Nick

      So what’s your NFL prognosis for Freeman now?

      • MarsLineman

        Honestly, I had to scrap my old profile and rebuild from scratch- I’m still working through the implications. Will definitely give the full prediction in the upcoming post

      • QDoc

        The fact that he’s now classified as anterior-dominant doesn’t bode well, if I understand what Mars has said before. That said, if the sternum injury was so bad it made the dude look posterior-dominant, then maybe when healthy he has good potential as a pro.

  • bradley
  • bradley

    Bucky Brooks: 2018 All-Rookie Team: Josh Rosen, Bradley Chubb will thrive

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000932032/article/2018-allrookie-team-josh-rosen-bradley-chubb-will-thrive

    Running back: Royce Freeman, Denver Broncos (Round 3, No. 71). Just because Freeman enters the league as a third-round pick, that doesn’t mean he’s not positioned to be an immediate impact player. The ex-Oregon standout spits out 100-yard games like an ATM machine as the perfect companion to Case Keenum in the Broncos’ backfield.

    (The only other RB he mentions is Barkley)

    • gobroncos

      RSH posted this down below. It’ll be interesting to see how Freeman and Booker split carries.

      • SteveS

        It may come down to which of them is better in the backfield in passpro

        • gobroncos

          Which is something that CJ was good at.

    • Drewredux

      Bittersweet.

  • bradley

    Klis: SPORTS
    Broncos should improve thanks to three major offseason upgrades

    https://www.9news.com/article/sports/broncos-should-improve-thanks-to-three-major-offseason-upgrades/73-550064423

    The first move was to replace special teams coordinator Brock Olivo with Tom McMahon.

    “The Broncos’ poor special teams play last year wasn’t all Olivo’s fault. It was a mistake to mesh a first-year head coach in Vance Joseph with a first-year special teams coordinator in Olivo. Each would have been better had the other had experience.

    “Joseph will be a better head coach in year two because McMahon will be a better special teams coordinator. McMahon is in his 10th consecutive season as an NFL special teams coordinator and players on his most recent team, the Indianapolis Colts, raved about him.”

  • The Color Orange
    • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

      Case is a true Pro.

      • Alaskan

        Agreed.But now we get to see if he is a pro QB.
        I hope so.

        • Drewredux

          Denver probably gave him $10 mil per better than his next best offer.

          • ohiobronco

            He reportedly received a stronger financial offer from the Jets. He is currently the 19th highest paid QB and was about 7th best last year.

          • Drewredux

            Huh. Keenum himself said nobody else was even close in is introductory press conference.

            No matter. It is what it is.

            I hope we get at least Plummer ‘05 out of him.

  • The Color Orange
    • T. Jensen

      Bring in Vince Young. Assemble the Dream team Jon!

    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      I bust Allbright’s chops quite a bit, but that’s funny.

  • RSH
  • RSH
    • More good stuff, in detail, from that:
      https://twitter.com/MaseDenver/status/994321193657405440

      • RSH

        This is absolutely sage advice and wisdom from a Broncos’ legend. I hope that McKenzie takes the counsel to heart and appreciates Rick Upchurch taking the time to reach out to him like he did.

        • Sparks

          I think this is great. Hopefully he took some time to impart wisdom with our starting PR too.

    • gobroncos

      They should set up a bunch of standing dummies right where the punt machine is dropping in the punts. He has to maneuver between them to catch the ball. Do they do that? Or he should ask some teammates to constantly get in close proximity to him as he’s trying to feild the punts. I feel like his peripherals played a lot in how he fielded punts.

      • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

        That was Talib, previously. He would get in real close proximity of him when he would fumble, too.

  • RSH
  • DCJ1

    Warning: Arcane baseball rule interpretation follows, posted only because it is the off-season.

    So even the big league boys can screw up: http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/23451974/new-york-mets-bat-order-first-inning-cincinnati-reds

    Oddly enough, I think the umpires screwed up as well.

    The lineup order was officially 2. Cabrera, 3. Flores, 4. Bruce. Flores and Cabrera accidentally switched. Initially Flores was the improper batter, but he struck out. Riggleman did the smart thing and let it go, so on the first pitch to Cabrera, Flores was “normalized” as the proper batter and thus Bruce should have been up. But Cabrera came up as the second improper batter. After Cabrera doubled and Riggleman appealed, Bruce was rightly called “out” ending the inning.

    Where the umps went wrong was letting Cabrera’s double stand in the scorebook. The actual rule is that any play by the improper batter is erased, the proper batter is called out, and the batting order resumes with the next batter after the proper batter. So Cabrera’s at-bat shouldn’t have been in the books. This matters, because if Cabrera had homered, that would have been an illegal run.

    The “erase the play” part of the rule is why Riggleman was right not to appeal when Cabrera came up. If he had appealed after Flores’s at bat, the proper batter Cabrera would have been called out, the Flores strike-out erased, and Flores would have come up to bat again. Instead he got both Flores and Bruce out by one well-timed appeal. The only thing that went wrong is Cabrera got some batting average help from a hit that technically did not occur.

    • DCJ1

      So apparently wiser heads at MLB reviewed and adjusted the scorebook. Cabrera’s double was erased. All is right in the world.

      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        It was either that or an asterisk. 😉

  • Yahmule

    Kind of funny given the conversation earlier today.

    May 10, 2018