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  • bradley

    Legwold: Broncos looking for more than talent from potential 2018 draftees

    http://www.espn.com/blog/denver-broncos/post/_/id/31221/broncos-need-2018-to-look-a-lot-like-2011-draft-class

    “The Broncos’ last two draft classes have been heavy on athleticism — the height-weight-speed triangle of scouting — but neither class has had many players move to the top of the depth chart.”
    “Of the players in the past two draft classes — 16 combined — safety Justin Simmons and left tackle Garett Bolles were the only full-time starters last season. Adam Gotsis was a rotational player on the defensive line. Although Bolles has flashed potential, multiple personnel executives in the league said in recent weeks that when they look at the Broncos’ roster they would consider Simmons to be the only sure-fire hit from those two classes right now.”

    • pubkeeper

      Hey, just wanted to say thanks for getting the ball rolling each morning. Appreciate it.

      • bradley

        My pleasure.

    • The Color Orange

      More talent is always appreciated.

  • bradley

    Sebastian Janikowski signs two-year contract with Seahawks

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/seahawks/2018/04/13/sebastian-janikowski-seattle-seahawks-signs-contract/516001002/

    This was mentioned yesterday but here’s a little more information.

  • Jeremy

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-tax-law-entertainment-deduction-2018041-story.html

    I found this interesting. The new tax code doesn’t allow sports tickets used for entertaining clients to be tax deductible any nore.

    The article speculates this could reduce the worth of club level tickets and luxury box seats. One of the reasons NFL owners want to build new stadium is because luxury box ticket (unlike general ticket sales) don’t have to be pooled and split between owner’s. If luxury boxes become less lucrative I wonder if that changes the math.

    This could also be a factor that contributes to a declining salary cap in the coming years.

    • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

      Well this sucks. I was eagerly looking forward to purchasing season tickets for Seattle’s new hockey team in 2020, and hopefully the Sonics “for my clients”.

  • bradley

    NFL seeks special investigator in concussion settlement

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2018/04/13/nfl-seeks-special-investigator-in-concussion-settlement/33811481/

    “The NFL is accusing some attorneys representing players in the $1 billion concussion settlement of fraud, and has asked to have a special investigator appointed to investigate.”

  • MattR

    I didn’t see this mentioned in yesterday’s thread – College football changed the rules so that a kickoff caught for a fair catch anywhere inside the 25 is treated as a touchback. I have a feeling the NFL could adopt that in the next couple years as the trend continues to eliminate kickoff returns.

  • royalwithcheese
    • Yahmule

      Did Ridley shrink? He’s the same size he was when some people were putting him in the top ten. His poor high jump and long jump @ the Combine is when he started dropping.

      I’ll bet anything that Guice is the second back off the board.

      • Drewredux

        He is a bit willowy. Sometimes doesn’t translate well.

        I was wondering why he was falling down the mocks, though. Your explanation seems as good.

  • Nick

    Crazy trade idea time: a three way deal between the Bills, Giants and Browns:
    –BUF gets #2 (from NYG)
    –NYG gets #4 (from CLE), #65 (from BUF) & #121 (from BUF)
    –CLE gets #12 (from BUF), #53 (from BUF), and BUF’s 2019 1st rounder

    Here’s what needs to be behind this crazy idea:
    –The Bills are desperate for a QB and want to leapfrog their division rival Jets for one.
    –The Giants don’t want a QB but they don’t want to move out of the top 4. They strike a provisional deal with the Bills to get #65 and #121 if they can pry #4 away from Cleveland.
    –Bills talk to the Browns about #4, and in the process ask what Cleveland’s going to do at #1.
    –Browns eventually decide on a QB, let the Bills know, and the Bills are OK with taking the 2nd QB off the board. The three way trade happens.

    As a bonus, let’s say the top four go Darnold, Allen, Mayfield, Chubb. If you’re the Broncos, what do you do, and/or what do you think they would do?

    • Grover7874

      In this scenario, I’d say pick Rosen at 5. My second option would be to listen to offers to move back, but not too far. I’d like to stay ahead of Oakland in round one.

    • bradley

      The only sane thing is take Nelson.

      • Tim

        Why do you prefer Nelson over Rosen? Is it his injury history?

        • bradley

          1) The OL is still our biggest weakness.
          2) Yes, Rosen’s concussions and size bother me. Otherwise, I like him a lot. But let’s see how Keenum (and Lynch and Kelly) do this year.
          3) And maybe most importantly, I’m a Nelson on my mother’s side.

          • Tim

            All solid reasons! Thank you for sharing!

          • BlackKnigh

            Don’t mean to pile on here – but I agree with Bradley about taking Nelson. He is versatile enough to play anywhere on the OL. He will make a huge difference in the attitude and raise the level of play on the line. Helluva leader. Bradley is right that the OL is the biggest weakness right now. Denver has gone the route of trotting out these old broken down warhorses. They need a new stud. He could be that stud! He can play RT, RG, LG, LT and C.
            Denver does not need another starting QB – they just paid $18M for one.

    • Russ

      In this scenario (or almost any scenario, actually), I’m in favor of trading back, provided that trade gives us another first in 2019. Reason being that then you likely have the ammunition to move way up in 2019 if Keenum turns out to be a one-year wonder, as many suspect he will. If you really want to find out what he has (and I believe Elway and Co do) you can’t immediately go and draft a QB in the top-5 and expect people to believe you’re gonna give Keenum a fair shot. It just doesn’t work that way.

      • gnasses

        Agree 100% that any trade down needs to include a 2019 1st. Having us get Nelson or Barkley and an extra 2019 pick is dream material for me.

        • PiperAR

          Getting a 2019 1st rounder probably means trading out of the top 10, and Barkley or Nelson would have to slide big time to fall to Denver in that case.

          • gnasses

            Agreed. Mostly. If the board fell that way, I would at least propose some sort of creative move down to 7-9 maybe for a swap of next year’s 1st and 2nds and an extra late round pick coming to us or something along those lines. If someone is picking 5th with Chubb and 3 QBs off the board you still have a lot of blue chippers and some GMs certainly have the same reservations on G or RB that high for salary reasons as do some here. Hey, a guy can dream!

      • PiperAR

        Moving from #5 to #7 or 8 would get a 3rd round pick this year. I’m not sure how far back we’d have to go to pick up a 2019 first rounder.

        • pubkeeper

          Too far. Moving out of the top ten would bum me out.

    • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

      Giants would be foolish not to draft a QB, and I bet it’s Josh Rosen. If your scenario plays out, Denver better draft Josh Rosen.

  • RSH

    It’s amazing the conversations that you can have while going grocery shopping. I had an interesting conversation about laundry with the grocery checker today. This woman is originally from Sudan. The conversation was sparked by my purchase of Fels-Naptha laundry soap, washing soda, and Borax. My wife and I make our own laundry detergent with those products, and the checker said that this sparked memories from when she lived in Sudan.

    I was wearing a Broncos hoodie this morning, which caused the grocery cart attendant in his early 20s to ask me how I think the Broncos will fare in 2018. I stated that a lot has to do with whether Case Keenum and the offense can improve and how players drafted last season and in the next few days perform in 2018. We went on to have a fun conversation about all the various routes that the Broncos could take in the first round this month. FWIW, the guy I spoke with does not want the Broncos to select Josh Allen or Baker Mayfield.

    • bradley

      So, did you clue the kid about Thin Air?

      • RSH

        I failed in that regard. I should have done a better job proselytizing. 🙂

  • Nick
    • RSH

      Best of luck in Chicago, Bennie. He had some great grabs in the 2015 NFL Playoffs, particularly catching Peyton Manning’s last pass, as well as the huge third-and-12 conversion against Pittsburgh in the AFC Divisional Playoff Game. It was also fun to see Fowler score two touchdowns against the Chargers in-person in the Broncos’ opening game last season.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvpYsFb5yNo
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD05CAuOaeU
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVp4-qjWVJE

      • bradley

        That last vid really makes me miss Siemian. He’s going to be a damn good QB in this league.

        • pubkeeper

          Yeah he is. He’ll have a long, lucrative and safe career carrying a clipboard.

          • Alaskan

            As I’ve said before, I’d like that job.
            Nobody hits you and you get paid.

      • BlackKnigh

        Siemian looked like a world beater in the last video. 2 turnovers by the offense. Otherwise they should have won by 14 or more points. Leaky OL got him sacked a few times.

  • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

    Watching the 2013 game against the Cowboys today. We were so lucky to have Peyton Manning.

  • The Color Orange
    • Steven_Searls

      I saw that and just assumed it was by Yahmule.

    • gobroncos

      Who was No. 1?

    • gnasses

      Hrm, so is this like only since 2014 when they started getting all of the NCAA data or am I missing something here. First P in PFF stands for Pro right?

  • The Color Orange
    • Alaskan

      Watching the video that was posted yesterday showing Josh Allen’s workout, two things seemed to stand out.
      1. He can throw it a mile effortlessly, and
      2. The ball often came down nowhere near the receiver.

      • BlackKnigh

        I think there is already a guy on Denver’s roster who can do that.
        He’s close to being a proven bust. We really do not need another one.

  • Jeremy

    Any avs fans watching today?

    • Russ

      Crickets. Sheesh. That NHL-record sellout streak feels like a lifetime ago. Sad to see such a drop off of enthusiasm for the sport here in Colorado.

      • Jeremy

        It’s way worse for the Nuggets. I was impressed how many fans turned out for the Avs last season.

        It was a good game today though. Avs lost 5-4. Tough Pill to swallow, but you have to be excited for game 3 Monday Night in Denver.

    • Hank Mardukis

      I watched. Nashville has been good, but not all world. Both games have been winnable, but the Avs have made too many mistakes and Bernie isn’t good enough to steal a game.

      • Jeremy

        Agreed.

        If we had EJ + Varly, I think it’d be 1-1 right now.

        If we had EJ + Varly + made a few less stupid mistakes we’d be up 2-0.

        But as the saying goes, “if I had wheels I’d be a wagon.”

        • Hank Mardukis

          If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.

      • Bernier is terrible. It’s a wonder he’s still in the league.

    • Drewredux

      I wish.

      I was watching youth soccer in low 40s temps and high 40s winds.

      Woot!

  • The Color Orange

    Sorry if this was already posted. I missed it if it was. The Ringer on Quenton Nelson. This should convince anyone who’s still skeptical about taking a guard at 5.
    https://www.theringer.com/2018/4/5/17200244/quenton-nelson-notre-dame-draft-prospect-top-five-pick

    • bradley

      “Offensive line nerds have been gushing about Nelson for months, and their outpouring of love starts with his uncommon mean streak. Plenty of offensive linemen play with nastiness and aggression, but Nelson takes it to an entirely different level. “

    • Hank Mardukis

      If Denver doesn’t take a quarterback I hope it’s Nelson they pick.

    • Jason

      I’m not skeptical about Nelson as a player, but if Rosen is there at 5 I don’t think there’s a snowballs chance in Hell we pass on him.

      • Tim

        Erick Trickel on MHH seems to think we’re passing on Rosen to trade down instead

        • Jason

          I’d be shocked if we did, but it wouldn’t be my first time being wrong. Today for that matter.

        • The Color Orange

          Someone needs to tell Trickel that the first step to being taken seriously as a draft insider is not to do your
          analysis in front of your Star Wars figures.

          • Andrew

            Lol I was thinking that when one of them popped up in my twitter feed the other day.

    • DragonPie

      I’m still skeptical, but don’t think that means that I don’t think he has a reasonable chance to be a dominant talent in the NFL. My concern is that the contract for a top guard picked up off of the free agency stack will be similar in compensation to his rookie contract and that his marginal return is less.

      I still have the same concern about RB. But, what I’ve seen of his film, I like him as a prospect.

      And, if we select him, I won’t be bummed. I’ll be glad that we shored up a position of need even if he’s not my favorite choice at that slot.