• ohiobronco
    • MarsLineman

      Great read. I particularly enjoyed the article’s assertion that the 49ers were chosen to receive Garropolo based partly on Belichick’s enduring respect for Mike Shanahan

      • Jeremy

        This should put to bed any criticism that the Broncos didn’t pursue jimmy g. They fielded no offers and his destination was hand picked by belichick

        • Kndh19

          It also means that if the broncos would have hired shanahan as head coach, the broncos may have been the hand picked destination.

          • Jeremy

            Possibly. I could see things playing out differently if he was here. I didn’t know Mike Shanahan and belichick were close. I’m curious his overall feelings towards the Broncos.

            We’ve beat him more than anyone but I don’t know if or how that translates into hatred for us.

            Are kraft and Bowlen close?

          • Kndh19

            Yeah, definitely would have been weird for belichick to trade him to Denver. It seemed like he was more interested in putting garoppalo in a situation to succeed as that strengthens his legacy in the long run, than what team he traded him to. Not sure if that extends to the broncos but it’s interesting to think about.

          • T. Jensen

            I think Belichick respects quality organizations. The fact that we’ve had success towards him probably means he likes/respects more than others.

            As far as I know the Jets are the only team he openly hates.

          • Jeremy

            Doesn’t he also hate the Browns? And possibly the giants? I may be mixing up the fun but not true conspiracy theories from his actual feelings

          • Nick

            Super Bowl losses aside, I can’t imagine why he’d hate the Giants, I don’t recall any drama involving him while he was there. And the new Browns are drastically different from the old Browns. Only team I could think of that he could possibly hold a grudge against would be the Jets.

          • Jeremy

            He definitely hates the Jets, and it’s been well documented and is mentioned in the article.

            One other possibility would be the Colts because of deflate gate, but belichick never seemed nearly as upset about that as Brady or Kraft, and belichick traded them Jacoby Birset this off-season.

          • Sparks

            Bill coached in Denver the year after their first SB and has been very complimentary of the Broncos since, especially of his time working under Joe Collier. He credits Joe with exposing him to the 3-4 defense. So, while I doubt Bill would want to help an in-conference rival, I don’t think that tarnishes his positive feelings for the Broncos that has gone on for 40 years.

            http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Patriots-head-coach-Bill-Belichick-on-year-coaching-in-Denver/bd8f14b7-3f65-4119-8473-1bc7fa7a0d2d

            https://www.denverpost.com/2008/01/28/belichicks-roots-in-denver/

            http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2012/10/bill_belichick_shines_some_lig.html

            http://www.9news.com/sports/nfl/denver-broncos/mike-klis/how-the-orange-crush-helped-form-coach-belichick/370316872

          • Nick

            Something to keep in mind is that people actually in the NFL care far more about the people involved and far less about the laundry involved–the latter is for the fans. Greek is probably the only person with the Broncos in 1978 that’s still there when Belichick was there. I’m sure there are people within the Broncos organization that he respects, but not coming from his one year wearing orange and blue.

          • Sparks

            I can see how people matter but I believe institutions do as well, so I don’t totally agree with your assertion. Totally agree that people make the place and the memories and are #1 in positive association but the institutions that people build also deserve merit. As an example, I’d like to think Bill would like the Broncos more than, say the Jaguars. A team he has no association with whatsoever. At least he could look back fondly on his time in Denver, for the people yes, but also for the team.

            I really liked my first job out of college. I liked the people but also liked the place. It was a small business. It has since been sold and no one that I worked with back then still works there today that I’m aware of. But, when I find myself in the market for their particular product, that’s who I choose to purchase from, based off of our shared history.

          • Nick

            Being in the same conference, and also facing the Broncos on their very first week after the trade deadline, probably still makes that a no go even if Shanny was the coach in Denver.

      • Andrew

        I had never heard it mentioned that Shanahan defended Belichuk to the league during Spygate.

    • Jeremy

      This might deserve its own thread. So much to unpack in this one. Absolute must read.

      • Jeremy

        One prediction:

        Patriots win super bowl, belichick retires, McDaniels is promoted, Brady fails hard in 2018 as age catches up with him and without belichick and retires the year after. Patriots dynasty ends and they alternate between good and bad but are no longer best in the league

    • Jeremy

      So far betting markets havent dropped the odds on the Patriots to win the super bowl by any significant margin. I’ll monitor throughout the day

      https://electionbettingodds.com/Superbowl.html

    • bradley
    • Hank Mardukis

      Hopefully reports of their demise aren’t being over exaggerated.

      • Jeremy

        Unfortunately, they probably are.

        If it’s true that belichick is considering retiring it could also increase their chances of winning this year, although long term it would obviously have a negative effect

    • Nick

      Someone who’s been awake longer than I have needs to caption this to fit this article:

      https://cinema1544.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/mexican-standoff.jpg

      • Yahmule

        “Brady, Belichick, Kraft, Deny Rumors of Rift.”

      • Laces Out

        They’re all fucked in that scene anyway!

        Great movie, great image

      • Rob Rooney

        The latest meeting of the mutual admiration society will now come to order!

    • Andrew

      I definitely take pieces like this with a grain of salt, but I did already wonder if something was up with the way they the Jimmy G situation was handled. They turned down better trades on draft night and why trade Brissett for peanuts if you know you might move Jimmy G as well. I do remember hearing about Brady’s snake oil trainer getting kicked out of team facilities earlier this year as well.

      • Piglet62

        It seems clear that Belichick got rolled here. If he were calling the shots, the smart move is to let Brady go, not Garappolo. Brady is done in no more than 18 months, and it is better to let someone go a year too early in his world view. That said, I think Kraft would be right to overrule this from a marketing/reputational perspective.

    • MattR

      One thing I have been curious about is who pays for any treatments done on the other Patriots by Guerrero at the TB12 clinic and does Brady get a cut of that money. If the team is paying and Brady gets a cut, it seems like that could/should be seen as an attempt to circumvent the salary cap (and could also be an explanation for why Brady has been willing to play for less than market value the past couple years).

      • DCJ1

        That is in fact something that has been discussed previously. The league turned a blind eye to the reports at the time, but when Brady signed his current deal, Kraft allowed a TB12 office to own in the stadium complex and trainers were directed to send players there. The full financials were not disclosed, but you can bet TB12 isn’t treating the players for free.

        • MattR

          Interesting. Thanks. As I think about it, the amount of money the Pats could funnel through to Brady that way is relatively minimal compared to the discount he gave the team on his contract. But I would guess it is still a significant sum (and who knows if Kraft is endorsing the clinic or sending other people there outside the team) that shouldn’t be ignored by the league.

          • Laces Out

            After rereading this you know that mother f***** is getting paid now or in the future just another sneaky way to say well it’s within the rules now but everybody knows it’s actually f****** hiking the ball before everybody’s ready…

            If Only They would have called that f****** b******* fumble instead of creating the Tuck Rule this mother f***** never becomes what he has become

          • DCJ1

            Thanks Rico. That’s precisely the article I was thinking of. Browsing through it again, I think Laces Out has the right reaction.

      • Laces Out

        Yeah I think Kraft has been funneling money to that foundation for some time there was an article on that earlier this year that’s why they don’t pay him the max contract

    • Nick
      • DCJ1

        Borrowing a page from the Trump approach: deny and distract! Fake news!

      • Yahmule

        World champions in every sport have been full of guys who hated each other, or at least grew to hate each other.

        • Laces Out

          Definitely drama but the fans will eat all this s*** up I don’t like rooting for them to fall but the day will come… I’m happy that Denver’s been one of the teams that’s had Tom Brady’s number.

          • Andrew

            Broncos and Giants are really the only organizations that can hold their head high in this regard.

          • Yahmule

            Certainly not any of the mutts in their division who have enabled through incompetence.

          • Laces Out

            Miami stings em every now and then

      • Laces Out

        Guererro not in the joint statement…hahaha..serves them right. Known and proved cheaters. A lot of sources in that bush-league article are from Staffers’

        Don’t be a scared little bitch, put your fuckin name on it!

    • Russ

      To me, one of the most fascinating parts is how Guerrero, this snake-oil-selling shyster, can allegedly influence a seemingly humble, private, and careful young man into becoming a snake-oil-selling shyster himself. Also, FYTB.

      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        I don’t think Brady is humble. Quiet maybe, but also clearly not very smart.

        • Russ

          Allow me to edit. humble, private, and careful young man. My sister went to Michigan when Brady was there. One of her best friends dated (and later married) one of TB12’s best friends, so she got to interact with TB12 quite regularly. She was always impressed by Brady — specifically how someone so obviously not smart could be as successful as he was.

          Side note, her good friend was also the daughter of NHL all-time great head coach Scotty Bowman.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            Haha! I just picked up on the sarcasm the moment before you posted this clarification. I’m a little slow this morning.

    • RSH

      If true, that is one astounding dynamic currently at play in New England. I certainly hope that the end of the Patriots as we know is as imminent as that article makes it out to be. Having the Patriots franchise and their insufferable fans being subjected to what they experienced from 1989 through 1992 would be most refreshing.

  • ohiobronco

    Lamar Jackson has declared.

    • Yahmule

      Very glad to see this.

      • Royalwithcheese

        If EVER there were a year to need a QB, this is it.

        • Yahmule

          It’s good for us, but I’m happy for him. Go start making some money, Lamar. He’s not going to learn much more @ Louisville about playing quarterback. I’m the furthest thing from a Bobby Petrino fan, but he did alright by Jackson. I just think Lamar needs to get into a pro system now.

        • Laces Out

          Yep…sounds like NE is looking to draft one too

  • Nick

    Not to distract from Patriots drama, but the only proper way to do so is to mention rumors of some possible Raiders drama.

    https://twitter.com/TheRaidersWire/status/949004838943145984
    https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/949019632844845056

    • Hank Mardukis

      Gruden has been out of coaching, what, eight years? As a Broncos fan I think it’s a great hire. The only thing better would’ve been to keep Mr. 7-9, Jack Del Rio, around a little longer.

      • DCJ1

        Has any coach returned from an extended stint in sportscasting and been successful?

        • Nick

          Dick Vermeil. It is fair to note that in the two years prior to winning a Super Bowl, he went 5-11 and 4-12, and also made the most disgraceful pick in NFL Draft history.

          • Nick

            Strike that second part, Phillips arrived one year before Vermeil did. Apologies to Vermeil, I’m still waking up.

    • Yahmule

      Oh those spoiled lazy 90’s babies. Will they ever learn? At least our grumpy 27 year old men have the saggy balls to put their money where their dentures are and go on the record with their complaints unlike this unidentified Raider veteran.

  • How about McDaniels’ Dad telling Brady “F*&k you!” from behind the bench. That family is a mess, I really will be surprised if he gets another HC job. His agent does well to keep his name involved in every hiring cycle, but an interview with the guy will send owners and GMs running.

    • Russ

      I think it was TB12 yelling “F you” at McDaniels, the Patriots OC, while McDaniels the Ohio HS coach was sitting right behind the scene (no mention of McDaniels the Ohio HS coach yelling anything).

      • Ah, just re-read… you’re right. McDaniels is still garbage and I’d be surprised if he gets a job.

      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        Yeah, Brady seems to be losing it. Hitching his wagon to a quack con man who impersonates a physician and turning on Belichick, McDaniels and anyone else who dares criticize him.

        • OnionKnight

          Classic Mid-Life Crisis…age denial. Next he’ll buy a fancy sports car, maybe a Miata, and start an affair with a young blond.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            I’m exactly Brady’s age, and I’m guilty of one of those cliches.

          • Russ

            That’s disgusting, and I hope you get caught. Miata’s are strictly chick cars.

          • Sparks

            As is the Mitsubishi Eclipse.

  • Nick
    • MattR

      2013? Is he confused about the year or could he just not afford the extra 4 or 5 frames? 🙂

      • Nick

        Let’s just stick with 2 extra, that’s a lucky number.

      • He’s as in denial about 2017 as many of us were. 😉

    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      Wow, that’s some serious specialization. What’s next, a slot-specific WR coach?

      • That’s pretty weird, no?

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          Yes, definitely unusual. Though they have had an ILB coach and an OLB coach on the defensive side for a while. I think if anything this is a statement as to how tired the organization is of struggling on the offensive line. Hopefully it yields some positive results.

      • gnasses

        Actually, I have been wondering why teams don’t hire more coaches. This was a genius move for Mark Cuban in turning around the Mavs. Brought in specific coaches to develop certain skill sets of particular players. His quote was something along the line of “There’s no salary cap for coaches.”

    • OnionKnight

      More time to develop, or is John Elway just stock piling coaches for when the inevitable firing of VJ happens mid season?

      • OnionKnight

        Maybe this is also in response to coaching at the Senior Bowl and ensuring they get the best evaluations of the players there for the scheme they want to run. More coaches doing one on one, the more evulations they get

        • I think this makes a lot of sense. It’s more for that.
          And if one coach is the OL “boss” it’s like a def. coordinator with a DB coach under him, someone is in “charge” but the other is there to coach up and train an area of need based on scheme.

        • Russ

          I’m convinced that Elway and Co. knew about the Senior Bowl thing days in advance of the announcement. I think that influenced not only his decision to skip the Rose Bowl, but also his decision to keep Joseph on. I’m not saying it’s the only reason or even a big reason, but I’m convinced it came into play in his decision.

    • Tyler

      My completely uninformed opinion is this sounds like a good way for miscommunication to pop up between the tackles and the interior.

      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        I thought that, too, but if Strausser is the OL boss that should mean the buck stops there. So hopefully that will prevent any inconsistencies between the two position subgroups.

    • RSH

      Is this common? Is this a recent development in the coaching world? Paging, Dubs.

  • Nick
    • Sparks

      2nd team??

      • Russ

        On the one hand, when you play linebacker and you’re only 18th in sacks and 119th in total tackles, it’s understandable. On the other, I’d take Miller every day over any other OLB or edge rusher. Also, bonus, Khalil Mack didn’t make the list at all.

        • Nick

          I’m still so pissed off about DPOY last year, especially when news of that came just after news of TD getting into the HOF broke. All I need to keep in mind is that Super Bowl MVP is so much more important.

        • Hank Mardukis

          Number one in total pressures per PFF.

          • Russ

            Yeah, I’m assuming most of the AP voters don’t bother to look at anything beyond official NFL stats.

          • Sparks

            Truth…unfortunately.

          • Nick

            And I’m guessing the old “beat expectations” bias that plagues the Coach of the Year award affects this too, considering the unusually high number of Rams that made the first team.

      • Nick

        Beaten out by two much larger edge rushers in the first team:

        https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/949331201218592768

    • RSH
      • Nick

        I need to confirm this but I think the Broncos do still have the longest streak of having at least one Pro Bowl player.

  • RSH
    • Sparks

      Isn’t the “Mayfield on the North Team to be coached by Broncos” news like 2 days old?

      • Nick

        Phil Savage didn’t confirm to Mike.

        • OnionKnight

          This will never get old…

          • Nick

            It seems like we, Twitter and Reddit all believe it will never get old.

      • Yes, totally ridiculous. Also, the way he drops the Klint Kubiak news is a joke… it’s obv. going to happen and the team told him to put that info. out there.

        • The Color Orange

          Klis has no shame anymore. He’s just Elway’s lackey at this point.

    • The Color Orange

      This is disgusting on so many levels. Klis is being sent to carry the team’s water for the blatant nepotism hire. Does anyone really believe that Klint F’n Kubiak is a better WR coach than Tyke Tolbert, or that he is the best possible person, from all the available candidates at the college and pro levels to coach WRs for the Broncos? His resume is so light it’s in danger of blowing away.

      • FarAwayBroncoFan

        Eh…Mcvey didn’t have much of a resume when he started coaching in the NFL. Not saying you’re wrong, but I would guess for our top two receivers anyway, it matters not who their position coach is, at least as far as productivity.

    • QDoc

      I didn’t realize that Klint played the WR position. Is he better than Latimer or Sunshine?

  • RSH
    • Russ

      As Yahmule alluded to a few days ago, you gotta have respect for Browns fans. My God, not all of us would still be going to games if our team was that bad for that long. There’s no such thing as a bandwagon Browns fan. If anyone calls themselves a Browns fan, I don’t doubt their sincerity.

      • Sparks

        Mental stability, yes, but certainly not sincerity.

      • Jeremy

        I wonder if it’s become trendy in a hipster way to say you are a Browns fan even if you don’t care that much

        • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

          I’d imagine so. Hipsters are amazingly resilient and are always finding new ways to reinvent themselves. Out here in Seattle, hipsters would find old school Seahawk gear, and act like they used they’ve been following them pre 2012.
          The vintage Seahawk sweatshirt, home brewing, and the twirly mustache was really hot out here for a minute.

        • Russ

          That’s a good point. I guess if you truly don’t give a shit, in a hipster kind of way (that is to say, pretend you don’t give a shit), you might as well attach yourself to a franchise where if they turn it around, you can say you were there before the turnaround.

  • RSH
    • Russ

      Is there really a difference between a “significant” press conference and a press conference? Real question.

      • masonjar

        No!…annoying rhetoric.

      • Sparks

        The only difference I can think of is if it’s one that’s called out of the ordinary as opposed to the normally weekly scheduled PC’s.

        • masonjar

          Wouldn’t you call that an “impromptu” press conference or “standalone” or an “event”? Significant is click-bait and not a good adjective.

          • Sparks

            Hey, we should just be happy they didn’t 4 alarm it. 🙂
            But, yes, I agree with you. The fact that it was “called” should have been enough of a descriptor to label it as out of the ordinary.

      • Nick

        “Significant” as in “significantly bending the Rooney Rule”, perhaps?

        • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

          How shitty would it be to be the coach that gets called in for that interview? I would just tell them to F off, and don’t insult my intelligence.

          • gnasses

            I’m imagining something like…
            Davis: “Marc, I’m going to need a list of black coaches in the league who don’t have any connection to John Gruden.
            Badain: “Sure thing, here ya go boss.”
            Davis: “Perfect, get both these guys in here for an interview before this leaks.”

          • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

            “Please stratch Art Shell of this list, and seek permission to interview Eric Studsville.”

      • RSH

        Possibly. Mark Sanchez’s press conference following his trade to Denver would definitely fall in the latter category.

        • Russ

          Yeah. I guess if you expect a lot of media who wouldn’t normally be there to show up for it, you can call it significant. I expect every Super Bowl interview to be referred to as significant now too though.

    • Sparks

      For whatever reason, Chucky coming back to the AFCW doesn’t bother/scare me nearly as much as when I learned Reid was going to the Chiefs.

      • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

        It’s not the fact that Chucky is coming to the Raiders that scares me. It’s the fact that Raiders fans are happy and optimisic that really pisses me off.

        • Nick

          Hopefully this optimism proves to be as delusional as was the optimism when Art Shell came back.

          • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

            That was some really bad “ex sex” for the Raiders. Normally, it at least feels really good that first time back. That was just a gross feeling for everyone involved.

        • Sparks

          Funny. For me, the fact that they have optimism that will soon be unfulfilled and shattered that makes it extra delicious. 🙂

          • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

            That’s why I like you, Sparks. You’re always a “glass half full” type of guy.

          • Same. 😉 It’s sort of like when Chiefs fans get briefly cocky, only to ALWAYS meet crushing disappointment and have to skulk off to a corner.

      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        It scares me a little. It’s not like he completely left the game and has been living under a rock for 8 years. He’s followed enough to see the evolution of the game, and he’s always been great with QBs/offense. Considering what he did with Gannon and Johnson, I’m afraid of what he and Carr might accomplish.

        • FarAwayBroncoFan

          And we shouldn’t necessarily dismiss “has been” coaches – look at Vermiel, and to an extent (NFL experience anyways) Pete Carroll.

  • Nick

    If I were McKenzie I would try to get away from the Raiders ASAP. Have to think his power’s going to be eviscerated very quickly.

    https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/949340337608318977

    • Hank Mardukis

      This keeps getting better and better. Bring back a has-been coach and give him personnel power too. May Al Davis’ ghost continue to haunt that franchise.

      • Nick

        Meet the new Davis, same as the old Davis.

        • gnasses

          With worse hair.

          • But a better fanny pack, and VIP status at Hooters and PF Chang’s.

          • Nick

            Gruden’s been in tons of Hooters commercials, no wonder Mark Davis is so enamored with him.

          • Haha, that’s right!

          • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

            He loved Gruden so much, he got, and kept the same haircut to prove it.

          • bradley

            Now that’s insightful. I never made that connection.

          • Laces Out

            Hahahaha

      • Yahmule

        This really is one of Al’s ghosts at work. He found Mark to be a disappointment and an embarrassment and he let him know it in various ways. Mark stuck around anyway and gravitated to Raider veterans who would give him the time of day.

    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      Which is too bad, really. He navigated them out of cap hell and has at least acquired some young stars at key positions.

      • Sparks

        I was thinking the same thing. Wonder if he’d be interested in Heckert’s job?

      • Nick

        Getting out of cap hell was important, but other than 2014 his rookie acquisition has been mediocre at best so far.

        • Yahmule

          I think he’s pretty good, but I exhaled a sigh of relief when he drafted Amari Cooper over Leonard Williams.

      • Laces Out

        Fuck that! I always thought it sucked at they got him because theyve become competitive let’s get him out of there

    • MattR

      Apparently he turned down a chance to interview for the GB job so he must be comfortable with how things will be with Gruden around.

      • Yahmule

        Maybe they’ll coexist. McKenzie shuns cameras and Gruden would step on a baby to get in front of one. The good thing is if they bump heads, we might get a nice schism going between old line loyalists and Chucksters.

      • G Mik

        That is one possibility. Another likely one is if McKenzie interviews for GB, doesn’t get it, then he is immediately shown the door in Oakland for being disloyal. The Davis way.

  • ohiobronco
    • Nick

      Wyoming’s a northern state, right?

      • Sparks

        I would say it is. Won’t that make it interesting? If he has to go up against Mayfield on the practice field, it actually might save us from ourselves.

        • ohiobronco

          Or they are standing together and Elway says F’ it I’m taking the tall guy.

        • Nick

          Broncos rookie QB acquisition plan:
          1. Gush in public about how much they like Allen after the Senior Bowl.
          2. Jets trade ahead of them to draft Allen.
          3. ????
          4. Profit!

          • bradley

            Or they pull a Chicago and trade up with us.

          • OnionKnight

            People will eye Indy to trade with to jump ahead of us. We’re probably going to have to trade to #3 to ensure that we get who we want.

    • Royalwithcheese

      Getting an up-close look at two of the top 4 QB is a serious advantage. (Note: I don’t consider Allen part of the top 4. He’s behind LJ and probably Rudolph for me.)

    • Andrew

      Beat me too it. Not sure if this is good or worrisome.

      • OnionKnight

        It’s good, if he’s on the North, the coaches will be able to evaluate him and Baker Mayfield side by side.

        • Andrew

          Good for evaluation just scared elway is going to fall hard for another tall rocket armed qb with poor accuracy…

          • OnionKnight

            Better to see it in practices than at a Pro Day where he’s literally spent 3 months working on routines that are literally designed to showcase every strength he has. They will get to see what he looks like with real talent around him and in live scrimmages and play. How well he can handle coaching, can understand pass route concepts and than go execute them on the field. All the shit that Paxton Lynch has shown himself to be unable to do. Seems like a huge win to me. I just wonder if the broncos didn’t nudge him to play. How often does projected top 10 QB’s play at the Senior Bowl? Almost never.

          • ohiobronco

            Former Lynch booster Cecil said yesterday that if the Broncos had coached Lynch at the Senior Bowl they would not have drafted him.

          • ohiobronco
    • DCJ1

      Wonder if his decision came because Denver is coaching.

  • Nick
    • Andrew

      Wow bold to say the least.

    • Sparks

      Stop it, I’m about to piss myself over here.

    • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

      Fool.

    • Yahmule
      • nycboes

        This clip… Milk just came out my nose…

        • Yahmule

          Ray Liotta with the kind of laughter that bursts out of you when you realize the murderous psychopath was just messing with you.

      • Laces Out

        Comment of the year nominee! I actually started laughing just ljke while viewing it. Fuckin beautiful work!

    • Hank Mardukis

      What in the actual hell?

    • SteveS

      That’s a lot of Corona

    • What the actual hell… 100 million? Good luck with that, Davis. I’m sure he’s expecting money to just shoot out of the fountains of Caesar’s Palace but he may be in for a (sticker) shock within 2 years.

      • Laces Out

        For real…

    • RSH

      I tell you what, man. The money the Raiders threw at Gruden is even better than a properly executed Spider 2 Y Banana. This is blowing my mind.

      • Laces Out

        Dear Lord, please give us QB so we can properly whip their ass for the next 10 yrs

    • Jeremy

      But how much is guaranteed?

      And I thought Mark Davis was super poor

      • Yahmule

        Clark County is kicking him 3/4 of a billion dollars and forfeited virtually all stadium connected revenue streams. He’s doing way more than okay now. He outmaneuvered Sheldon Adelson and got Clark County to negotiate against itself.

      • LH Almeida

        I may be wrong but this doesn’t exist for coaches. Not only they are due to receive the yearly money, but they are also paid until the end of the contract even if they get cut. Teams that fire coaches every other year are paying all of them.

    • RSH
      • DCJ1

        Landry coached for all 10 years of his 1964 contract (he was fired in 1988, after the second year of a 3 year contract).

        Johnson fulfilled 5 of his 10 years. He and Jones mutually agreed to a split after discovering they loathed one another.

        Comparing Gruden to Landry and Johnson, I’m pegging the over/under line at 4 and taking the under.

  • Yahmule

    Well, we know how much Mark Davis is willing to pay to be loved by his fan base. I will give Al and Mark credit for one thing, both of them managed to maintain widespread support in Oakland no matter how badly and repeatedly they screwed the fans there. Their current group of Stockholm Syndromers dismiss those who are angry at the latest impending move as fair weather fans. This is unprecedented.

    • Hank Mardukis

      The Republicans of the NFL?

  • gnasses

    “There is no damn curse,” Zimmer said.

    Viking are now officially screwed.

    http://www.startribune.com/purple-reign-vikings-ready-for-curse-busting-playoff-run/468097923/

    • DCJ1

      I’m hoping for the Vikings vs either the Bills or Cheatriots. Then, no matter who wins the loser will be tied with the Broncos with 5 SB losses.

      • gnasses

        Agreed. But here in MN people are getting excited, but you can see in their eyes that they all have some hidden reservation. They don’t want their hearts broken again. If it comes down to another blown FG they are going to have to restrict pedestrian access to bridges for a couple weeks.

        • RSH

          I will never forget the devastation on my friends’, classmates’, and many people’s faces when the Vikings lost to the Falcons in the 1998 NFC Championship Game. I was in high school at the time living in Woodbury, a suburb of Saint Paul. Local radio stations played this song repeatedly throughout the regular season and playoffs.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbMk1qffPNM

          I felt bad for the Vikings’ fans. I did not stop proudly wearing my Broncos’ gear, including my Super Bowl XXXIII Champions locker room t-shirt, however.

          • gnasses

            I was also very disappointed by that Vikings loss. I don’t know if we would have beaten them for the back-to-back, but it would have been a better game than the Atlanta nonsense and that seemed like it should have been the matchup the entire year.

          • John

            I watched the Greatest Games show for that game. Jamal Anderson remembers going to the mall in Minnesota the day before the game, and they were saying “Thanks for coming”. He felt that the fans didn’t think they had a chance to win. That game and the 94 Charger win over the Steelers were the two biggest championship game upsets that I remember most.

  • ohiobronco
    • Yahmule

      It would take stones like Gibraltar to say anything else @ a fan Q&A. I like how non-committal he was when given a chance to say something nice about Snyder/Allen.

      January 5, 2018

      • cjfarls

        That is a great “franchise leader” savvy response. Acknowledge the fans and privilege of the opportunity, but give yourself an out on the backend.

        • RSH

          Unless Cousins gets franchise tagged at the exorbitant price that will require, he is leaving Washington.

          • Sparks

            Pretty much the exact opposite of this guy.

            http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031679/

          • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

            Cousins is winning at life right now. Why not start winning at football too? #AllinOnKirk #ILikeThat

  • Yahmule
    • BlackKnigh

      Heart-warming! Thanks.

    • Sparks

      Further context:
      – Mayfield 49.9 (55.1 as a Sooner)
      – Rosen 44.96
      – Allen 30.9
      – Jackson 40.22
      – Rudolph 55.65
      – for fun Stidham 59.88

  • Nick

    Fun fact: as a head coach Jon Gruden is 1-9 all time against the Broncos.

    • Andrew

      That’s pretty awesome I would’ve figured it to be more split.

      • Nick

        I vaguely remember watching some MNF promo where they pointed out to Gruden that he had never beaten the Broncos in his first few games. I too didn’t think it would be that lopsided, though.

    • Sparks

      What adds to the enjoyment of this stat is that as a Raiders HC he was 1-7 (0-2 as the TB HC). And it wasn’t like he was losing to the best the Broncos had to offer over the years. He only had to face Elway twice and one of those Brister completed the game. He only had to face TD a couple of times. Obviously he never went against PMFM. He was bested by names like Griese and Chris Miller. Griese was the main hero, going 5-1 against him. As an aside fun fact: – Griese then in turn, lost to the Broncos as a QB for TB under Gruden.

      • Nick

        Obviously he never went against PMFM.

        Not as a Bronco, but…my goodness was this a famous game.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dx3Do6i1fU

        • Sparks

          Yes, sorry…not PMFM as a Bronco. Agreed that was a fantastic finish and game

    • Yahmule

      Maybe that’s why I’ve never been that impressed. I also think his offenses don’t threaten defenses downfield nearly enough. He also had a really hard time settling on a QB in Tampa. In seven years, he had seven different guys attempt at least 100 passes in a season.

  • RSH

    The hiring of Sean Kugler, Mike Sullivan, and Curtis Modkins has been officially announced by the team.

    https://twitter.com/Broncos/status/949324541779763200

  • RSH
    • Jeremy

      Gotta love the #fb.

      • RSH

        And only 68 retweets and 24 likes of the Broncos’ tweet.

        • Yahmule

          That’s bizarre. I only joined stupid Twitter in 2014, so I take no blame for this.

          • Nick

            I joined in 2010 but had no need to make a single tweet until I started doing the comp pick stuff.

          • Laces Out

            Never joined but basically get on all I need to know from rsh! Cheers and thank you

    • Laces Out

      That was a good feeling that day and I’m nerdy enough to let you know that I watched him pull into the parking lot in his sick ass white Mercedes the first morning of him being on the job as it was on The Denver Post webpage. You could hear the car purring as he was going into the parking and punching in his code for the first time back I can say I couldn’t tell you it would be as awesome as it has been but I was very optimistic.

      I can’t recall what model it was but it was a bad mother f***** and it was super early close to 5 a.m. or something I remember having much respect for him being there that early ready to go day one

  • Royalwithcheese
    • Tyler

      Sweet, get him out of the AFC.

    • Laces Out

      That would be awesome

    • Rob Rooney

      I would love this but could see an ever better way it could turn out. Belicheck asks to go, Kraft says no. Giants hire McDaniels instead, Lions hire Patricia. Then Belicheck retires! Everybody wins!!

      • BlackKnigh

        If he retires – he would very interesting providing commentary on how the games are played. We would see the Machiavellian in him.

    • Jeremy

      I’d feel very conflicted about whether to root for the giants in this scenario

    • Russ

      Did we really just reference the Daily News as a reputable source?

  • Kush-Lash

    Reminder for all of us to keep things in perspective: https://deadspin.com/a-major-league-team-is-not-a-business-1821822764
    We’ve been a very fortunate fan base for the last 30 years, and though I have quite a bit of optimism for the organization’s future, I’m not fooled by the ‘corporate’ aspirations most organizations chase and wouldn’t be surprised if the shaking out of Broncos ownership has a major impact on the quality of entertainment.

  • OnionKnight

    If there are any truth to the rumor about Grappolo going because of Kyle, that means Elway cost us a better HC and a Franchise QB….smh For his person meat puppet, aka “leader of men”

    • Nick

      As I said yesterday, there’s no guarantee Belichick would have been willing to trade in conference, and if he had traded him to Denver, Garoppolo’s very first opponent would have been…the Patriots.

      • Agreed. A. No way for Elway to know that. B. If Kyle was in Denver, Belichick is likely moving on to the next guy on his preferred destination list. No way he was trading him to Denver. (Unless he was already planning to move to the Giants).

      • OnionKnight

        It’s very reminiscent of when a person is dying. They start giving away tihngs they like to people they respect. Start repairing relationships that were broken. Both the Colts and 9’ers moves make sense when that thought process.

  • InSiemianWeTrust
    • Drewredux

      Only the Senior Bowl can save us from a long and likely barren marriage to Cousins. Mayfield and/or Allen wowing may be our only salvatation.

      • The 5th Amigo

        Welcome back Drew

        • Yahmule

          I like the new handle.

      • Carsonic

        What T5A and Yahmule said.

  • Yahmule
    • LH Almeida

      Nelson has my heart

    • BlackKnigh

      3rd and 1 with this guy is going to be fun to watch! Hope he is in Denver to do his thing!

  • Yahmule
  • Yahmule

    The agility here is just ridiculous from a 330 pound man.

    January 1, 2018

    • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

      If you can sign Cousins and draft a guy like this for our OLine, we become instant contenders.

      • Yahmule

        The Broncos were so enamored with Bolles mean streak. They must be head over heels for Nelson’s on field disposition.

    • FarAwayBroncoFan

      Will he be at the senior bowl too?

      • Royalwithcheese

        I don’t think so.

        • FarAwayBroncoFan

          Too bad, but I guess the staff already knows he’s the best guard in the draft, by far.

  • Royalwithcheese