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No corresponding roster move for Edebali yet. I wonder if they’re bringing up Hunter Sharp to be the returner.
That’s what I would do, unless they want to give Langely a shot.
He was even more reckless and bereft of common sense than McK, so….
Did he fumble?
No. But he will if he keeps trying to return everything.
Keith Burns gave a good interview on the kicking game yesterday on The Fan. He is available and looking to get back into coaching.
Pretty sure his only season as a STC his unit in Washington was ranked dead last. And he was canned after the season with Shanny.
Nathan Peterman to start over Tyrod Taylor this Sunday?! Tyrod must be pissed!
Beat me to it by a few seconds. Tyrod should be pissed. This makes it more likely that they’ll cut him for 2018 to avoid owing him $15 million more, and he could be a veteran option for the Broncos to pursue.
That’s good news to me! I think he’s underrated, and have wanted him here for a couple years now!
Think about how much pain could have been avoided if he just followed Kubiak to Denver in 2015…
I try not to, but I sometimes get bored, and do.
What would you be willing to pay for him? I’m guessing he wants starter money (20 million/year) and someone will give it to him in a bidding war
I’d be stunned if Taylor got that much, especially in the first year. I think you could get him for about $10M or so in the first year and then ramp it up in future years if he proves he’s worth it.
Glennon got 18.5 guaranteed and we know what Brock got. You think he’ll only get half that with so many qb needy teams?
There’s also going to be a lot of potential QBs out there, as I noted in that article I wrote a little while back. Looking at the QB list maybe $10M is a bit optimistic, but ~$10M 2018 base plus ~$5M signing bonus or something like that should work.
18.5 was just guaranteed, right? His cap charge was 14 mill. Tyrod is making 15 mill this year, so I’d imagine he’d get 15-17 given all the QB prospects in this years draft.
Right. But I imagine they’ll cut him after this year so they will have paid him 18.5 million for one year of his services
I would also think that the Glennon deal, and the Osweiler deal would make teams a bit hesitant to pay out big bucks to these “middle tier” guys. The other thing that Glennon and Oz had going for them is that they were more of an unknown. I think that Tyrod has quite a few more starts than both of them did before they got their inflated contracts. Again, I think this year’s draft is going to skew the market and make it a lot more difficult to predict.
Will be very interesting no doubt, and interesting to see how the unknown potential vs experience plays out.
I looked and 9 of the 12 teams who Nick identified as possibly being in the market for a veteran qb will have over 50 million in cap space, and the other three have more than 30 million. And that’s before trams restructure contracts or cut veterans So there won’t be any shortage of cap space again.
Kolb, Cassell, Flynn, Osweiler, Glennon, probably Garapolo. Team’s are not going to ever learn that lesson as long as supply of quality QBs is less than demand. We all currently know what QB desperation feels like. I am sure teams feel it more acutely than even we do.
I wonder if we will start seeing a tier of QBs making $10M with incentive heavy laden deals. The Osweiler and Glennon experiments may have soured teams on paying for an established QB who is just not good enough. Be interesting to see with this supposedly QB rich draft this year how that shakes out.
I’ve seen several here suggest this, and I think this is wishful thinking by fans whose team is about to be in the market for a starting veteran QB.
Nick’s article listed 15 teams who may be in the market for a FA QB, although 3 of them would probably just be interested in a backup. Of the 12 who may look for a starter, all of them have at least 30 million in cap space, and 9 of the 12 have more than 50 million in cap space. While certainly all those teams won’t be in the market for a QB, probably at least half will. I saw a comment above that tried to rank the possible FA QBs, and Taylor is going to probably be the 2nd best option behind Cousins, unless Luck becomes available. Beyond Taylor it’s guys like Bradford/Bridgewater/Keenum, Dalton or Bortles, Cutler, Tom Savage, or Mike Glennon. Those handful of teams looking for a veteran QB will be more than enough to engage in a bidding war for Taylor or someone a tier below him.
As far as the draft, Nick listed 17 teams who may be in the market for a QB, far more than normal. While the draft may be deeper, I think the large amount of teams in need of a QB will more than make up for the difference. Worth noting, since 2000 there has never been more than 10 QBs to go in the first 5 rounds, and never more than 7 in the first 3 rounds.
I always hate to use the word “want” because we all want $50M/year like Goodell does. It’s about the market and I would think he would have a market. He’s currently 16th in the league in passer rating plus adds additional value with his legs. He’s never really imploded or proven himself to be a backup only like the QBs who’s value falls out of the starter tier. I would think his rep will consider Glennon to be a very reasonable starting point/floor. If there are multiple teams interested he would have a good chance of getting that.
I’ve always liked him. Extremely mobile, doesn’t turn the ball over. The tendency to play it safe is almost a bit of a negative as he is sometimes cautious to fault and he doesn’t look to squeeze the ball into a lot of tight windows.
He throws a good deep ball but they haven’t had a good deep receiver in a while. When they had Watkins healthy those two made a lot of big plays. Their current receivers are poor. That said he isn’t the best intermediate route thrower, whether because of his height or just unwillingness to trust his arm. Don’t know which. I’d take him only on a one year deal with incentives.
I see a lot of Bills games living in Western NY state.
Can’t wait til we sign Tyrod and not Kaep hahaha.
That’d certainly be better than sacrificing whatever against the grain Letter-jacket Elway will lock in on in January and expecting him to develop behind this line without any complimentary playmakers.
Benched for one bad game. Damn.
It’s always the coach or the QB. I guess we see where the pecking order is in Buffalo.
In Buffalo right now it is the defense. They traded away Marcel Dareus to Jacksonville and now teams are gashing them in the running game consistently. I honestly think they were surprised at their start because they traded away so many of the best players for draft picks prior to the season. Wouln’t be surprised if the decision to trade Dareus was done as a tank job by the FO. Since that trade their D has been exposed and Tyrod is not a come from behind QB. He needs a lead and a running game to be successful.
It’s kind of a raw deal when you get benched after your defense gives up 300 rushing yards.
Yep. A sign they want to move on from his contract. Peterman is pretty raw. Lucky him he gets to start against the Chargers who always find a way to lose despite a lot of talent. Still if Chargers just hand the ball off to Melvin Gordon and turn Bosa and co. loose, they should be able to beat the Bills. Should being the relevant language.
You hit the nail on the head with that first sentence. They definitely want to move on from that contract. I believe it goes up quite a bit next year. I think it’s a little bit irresponsible and negligent to just throw Peterman out there to the wolves, on a road game, for his first start. All 75 of those Charger fans are going to be a rabid!
The Bills haven’t had a franchise QB since Kelly and their best QB since those “glory days” was an aging Doug Flutie who they benched in favor of the QB the owner wanted to start in their last playoff game – The Music City Miracle (which was not a miracle the Bills’ fans are very happy about – they call it the Music City Robbery lol). Guess who their head coach was back then: Wade Phillips.
We’d be 8-1 or 7-2 with quarterback play like this.
We’d at least have 6 wins. Tyrod has a better O-line in Buffalo and a better running game with McCoy. Still, just not turning the ball over would make a big difference and he can get first downs with his legs. He’s a shorter Alex Smith in many ways. He would have better WRs here though.
With Taylor, I think that the Broncos win against the Bills, Giants, Chargers, and Chiefs. They still more than likely would have lost to Philadelphia and New England.
Yeah, in any case they would be a playoff team and no one would be bitching about VJ as a coach. Of course, Tyrod might have gotten himself killed behind our O-line as well. But he’s not 6′ 7″ so I don’t see Elway ever wanting to sign him. > snark font < (someday I have to figure how to do that)
Who do the Bills have for that game in this universe or are there two Taylors?
They have Peterman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhe4BZ2wyic
Which teams do you think would be willing to give Drew Brees an offer that he cannot refuse?
I could see that but Brees may want to give NO a hometown deal. They have a good roster, better defense, and he wouldn’t have to leave his family for significant time. Unless he pissed away all he got on his last contract I could see him going the Brady route.
Sure, but the question was who would overpay him if he didn’t re-sign in NO. : ) I’d also add that Brees has always taken a hardball approach to maximizing his earnings, while Brady has proven on multiple occasions to be more generous.
Guess it depends on how badly his wife wants him to stay in NO The Saints are still going to pay him at least $20M a year. I wonder if it is worth it to move on from a coach with whom he has a long term successful relationship, great running game and good wideouts, and improving D to chase a title with another team. But you are correct, he played hardball in the past.
It’s not like he would need to sell his house in NO to afford one in Jacksonville.
More his wife not wanting to move to Jacksonville, even for a short time. He has school age kids and I suspect wife would prefer not to move them. I also read palms as a side job. 😉
I think he will stay put but if he didn’t the wife and kids would not need to move.
One thing I know, he won’t become a Bronco (now watch Elway recruit him)
Thanks to Giselle, Brady can afford to be more generous if he so desires. Brady’s net worth – $180M. Giselle’s net worth – $360M.
(I should get bonus points for linking an AOL article lol)
Welcome! File’s done! Goodbye! (My father still rocks his @aol.com e-mail address originating in 1994.)
My stepfather does as well. I don’t know when he got it but I believe he’s had it forever.
I do too. Guessing I’m roughly your father’s vintage, both in real and AOL years.
It’s easier to keep than change. And everyone I know can find me.
On one hand, Jaguars have an estimated $2M in cap space for next year, but get to carry over $32M from this year.
They have just 49 players under contract for 2017, though, but cutting Blake Bortles would allow them to chase after Brees. They just need to hope Bortles doesn’t get injured before the season ends.
Cutting Bortles and his $19M salary would be an absolute prerequisite to chasing for Brees.
Anything make you think they won’t cut Bortles?
I’m trying to think if there’s a way the Jaguars can negotiate his salary down if they do want to keep him.
I can’t see it happening if they make the playoffs. Plus NO will have at least a month of exclusive negotiating window.
Man this isn’t just funny, it’s also a look at Broncos fans losing their shit during a rough stretch. Yikes
Guy who throws the punches claims to be handicapped and that’s why he thinks he can wade through an entire row to get to the next section……rather amazing that he has no problem moving away from the ass kicking he’s getting promised at the end of the video. I’ve had the same thing happen to me in my seats, usually by a drunk/stoned SOB who thinks the fastest way to get across a section is to wade through all the seated folks in a row.
Agree with all you said. How do you know he claims he was handicapped? Was there a story out there on that?
Listen to the beginning of the video…he states it. Handicapped or not, the way to get from one section to another is NOT wading through an entire row to get there.
Shit, I totally missed that. Thanks. Agree about wading through rows is bullshit.
I think his handicap was being a mean drunk.
Is it just me or was there a “dilly, dilly” there at the end?
There certainly was.
I get so tempted to use terms like “dilly dilly” and “Pit of Misery”, but then I realize that doing so would help promote a certain beer that will go unnamed.
Thankfully, we already have the similar and reliable Pit of Despair to reference.
It’s not the shitty beer that bothers me. It’s the cultural divisiveness that they are overtly trying to fan.
Beats me why the ad shows a lot of rich people drinking a cheap, crappy beer.
Crazy ass white people. SMH…. Always causing problems.
Smart man. If he did anything to try to intervene they likely would have turned on him.
This is one of the main reasons why I do not attend more games and hesitate paying to attend the few games that I do.
That guy’s raw indignation over the sucker punch made me smile.
Yeah, definitely my favorite part.
Haha, glad he called out Klis.
So he’s saying that he booted one that poorly, huh? Nice job.
Here’s a interesting thought:
If he were released we would have 5-10 waiver claims from teams that said Kaepernick doesn’t fit their system.
At least you could make a defensible argument that Taylor could be better than Kaepernick.
Go ahead. I’m listening.
I’m not going to make the argument, I’m saying that it’s more plausible of an argument than some of the other QBs that have been plucked off the street.
I see what you’re saying. I thought maybe you were expecting another level of growth from Taylor. While I don’t discount the possibility, I think he’s pretty much what we’ve seen the last couple of years.
Let’s say I was a PR guy, had completely lost my soul and was asked for some talking points. I would probably go with injury history and recency playing. Maybe throw in a “want a player completely focused on football” or something. Looking at the numbers they are quite similar:
Taylor may be a little better numbers wise but if he were to become a FA he would be about the best approximation of a controversy free Kaepernick that you could ask for.
I think they’re amazingly similar. There’s not even that big of an age gap. I also don’t think either one is likely to become something else moving forward. Both of these guys would be fun to have in the second half of home games when defenses start sucking thin air.
I’d feel pretty good about Kaepernick/Taylor, a day 1/2 draft pick and whichever leftover won the third slot.
Patriots would pick him up to add to their list of former Bills on their roster. > snark font <
Nick, does waiver priority change during the year? Forgive my lack of waiver knowledge.
Yes, after I think Week 3 it changes every week based on record.
So we should be above Jax and Hou in this theoretical?
If it’s the same as the order on the draft page I built, then yes.
(#6, that’s fucking depressing)
Would they really do that though? Doesn’t he have more capitol for a trade? They save $3M, but would they also gain a comp. pick? Not sure how all this works. I know the trade deadline has passed, but how long do they have him once the season ends?
Comp picks won’t be in play if they cut him. The problem with a trade is that he’s due a $6M roster bonus on the 3rd day of the new league year, so it would be a narrow range in which they could trade with while avoiding paying that.
I’d set the predaft odds at 2-1 that that J. Allen is our 1st round pick:
He checks all the Elway boxes.
Would they then call him a multi-year project then bail in under 18 months?
I’ve almost resigned myself to the Broncos taking him, b/c he’s the one QB out of all the top names mentioned that I absolutely don’t want them to pick.
He is a considerably better lump of clay than Oz and Pax, at least.
I wish we could be sure of that, but the QB’s we’ve drafted high under Elway have all been mediocre to poor so far.
You see some flashes of moxie from Allen. He actually seems to “get” football, even if he is kind of a wild stallion right now.
Maybe pick him in the 3rd round at best. Personally, I think he needs another year in college, much like Darnold.
I don’t disagree.
I have read some rumors that Allen will go back as a fifth-year grad transfer and go to Michigan to play for Harbaugh. That could land him as the top pick overall the following year.
I bet Michigan fans would love that. Their QBs stink. A lot of talent on that team wasted because they don’t have a decent QB.
I dunno. They have a McCaffrey there to play QB.
He has left Wilson, Cousins and Dak on the board in favor of his two whiffs. It feels like there will be one of those types this year. I am hoping he finally hits on one.
Ha, I felt that way about Lynch heading into the draft. Hard to ignore the reports that he had all-time bad whiteboard sessions with multiple teams.
He sure struggles against tough competition. 0-4 against Power Five teams with 3 TD and 10 INT. If he’s only completing 56% of his throws in college, what will his numbers be in the pros? 56% won’t cut it, so he’ll need to show marked improvement against infinitely better competition. I don’t think he’s pushed very much @ Wyoming, either. The Cowboys are so thrilled to have someone with his ability, after having Casey Bramlet as their previous high water mark, that they tend to make excuses for him up there.
I would prefer at least half a dozen other guys. Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield, Jackson, Stidham for sure. Probably Thorson and Rudolph as well.
Elway has only 2 boxes for drafting QBs. I think you know what they are. 😉
Big arm – CHECK
Low percentage project- CHECK
“We don’t draft people who can play, we draft people that should be able to in 3-5 years…best case scenario…then we refuse to pay them when they pan out.”
I can’t imagine why it isn’t working out.
Tall – CHECK
But does he have a face made for the cover of a YA novel?
Really Tall, and ass kissy. Lynch is holding onto the wrong ball for too long.
I’m torn. He has too much in common with our recent draft busts but damn it would be sweet to have a UW player star for the Broncos.
I’d put Bridgewater ahead of Brees, but otherwise a wish list.
Ha, I wasn’t actually ranking them on purpose, it just kind of came out that way. I’d be just as fine with a draft pick as with Cousins (as long as it’s not Allen).
For the record, I’m not necessarily advocating Allen, but it seems rather obvious who will captivate Elway.
No doubt. That’s why, even though I’d love to get Mayfield, he just doesn’t check the “height” box for Elway. Jackson is too “unconventional,” too.
I’d love to see some team pick Jackson and adapt their offense to his skills. He reminds me of Vick as a runner, but a more accurate passer than Vick ever was.
Yes. The team that does this will be ecstatic for the next 10 years. Vick went no. 1, and offenses have only become more kind to Jackson’s type of game, yet he’s rarely mentioned as a first-round pick. I don’t get it.
Doesn’t fit the model for a Pro-style passer.
Considering that few do having never played in a Pro-style offense that argument just makes little sense to me.
Adjust your offense to fit the player. Hell we even did that with Tebow and had some moderate success despite his inability to throw the ball within five yards of his intended target.
The one hope on the Mayfield front is that the FO seems to like the program, and Elway likes to share the anecdote about how smitten his dad was with Drew Brees. Maybe both will factor into his calculus on the matter.
With Luck you have to trade for him, and with the uncertainty of that shoulder (getting treatment in Europe) I’m just not sure if there will be many trading partners for the Colts. Bridgewater I see staying in Minnesota. Bradford is done except as a career backup. Keenum, assuming he keeps playing well, may get an above average deal and then revert to form. Cousins will make a lot of money from someone. Taylor will depend on how teams view him. Cutler will be in the FOX booth next year.
Cutler said he wants to play next year. Some team will sign him.
Luck is just as big of a question mark as Bradford (with a much higher upside). If Bradford’s knee checks out, he would be a big upgrade. Sign an OG and go RB/RT in the draft and we’d be cookin.
Anyone who signs Cutler deserves what they get.
Only sensible way I see Cutler playing another year is if signs for one more year in Miami, they cut Tannehill and then draft a rookie to groom.
How about if Cousins leaves Washington? There will be so much QB movement this offseason, I just don’t think we can say for sure.
Teams like the Redskins are definitely capable of making insensible QB decisions. : )
I’d be ok with signing Tannehill to a Mark Sanchez type deal next year. I’ve always thought he has potential.
Speaking of A&M stuff, I’d also be super interested in hiring Mike Sherman as an O-Line scout. The O-Line he created at A&M when Tannehill and Johnny douchebag were playing was phenomenal.
How much would you pay for Bradford? I can’t see anyone adding him to the roster except as a break glass in emergency type guy (pun intended).
I think you could give him 10-12M with 10+ more in playing time/passing yards incentives. Not my first choice, but it would keep their options open. If a R1 QB falls to them that they love, take him. If not, go BPA and then look at QBs in R2-R3. Get some trade value out of TS. Restock the roster elsewhere.
Maybe we could throw in Siemian as part of a trade for Luck. Selling point is he’s used to playing behind porous O-lines.
If they trade for Luck, I think TS will definitely be a part of that package. Two firsts, a third, and TS sounds about right.
We can throw in Pax and Shaq and call it even.
I don’t always have time to waste.
But when I do, I waste it at Thin Air.
Stay thirsty, my friends.
Post of the day!
The corresponding roster move that follows the release of Kasim Edabali.
So two practice squad spots are open.
I don’t understand this. Rico’s offense is one of the best offensive schemes for Tyrod Taylor.
Exactly. That’s why Kubiak wanted to sign him. This is all B.S., anyway. The truth is they have no intention of bringing him back next year, and they’re simply moving on.
Brooks just passing along the team’s fake news about the deal.
The great white hope!
I disagree with this move and I’m a Peterman fan. This is madness. In a playoff hunt?!
Benching your starting QB’s who have played relatively well while still in the playoff hunt for a young hotshot QB is never done. Isn’t that right Plummer?
I will always believe we make the playoffs if Plummer wasn’t benched.
Of course, I will also always believe Ray Lewis threatened to kill a ref during the 2012 divisional playoff game…
There were rumors the Bills were shopping him in the preseason, wish Denver would have traded for him then.
Fisher will be thinking, “[this is not] some 7-9 bullshit!”
I would be surprised if he even watches the NFL. He seemed bored shitless the last few years.
Broncos Country needs to give VJ a chance to learn and grow. He is low on the list of problems with this team.
I’ve questioned the decision to hire him if it meant losing a superior defensive coach, but I’ve never been on the bandwagon to fire him.
Has it been confirmed that if the Broncos had hired Kyle Shanahan or Dave Toub that Wade Phillips would have remained on as defensive coordinator? From all of the reports at the time, I am fairly certain that Phillips was out regardless.
Well, if they had picked up a top offensive coach, the reasoning would be that person would have the skills to markedly improve that side of the ball, but a defensive coach replacement would be unlikely to do so when Wade has such a long proven track record.
My main hope was that the defense played somewhat similarly and that the schematic changes were kept to a minimum and that we’d underestimated McCoy’s abilities.
But, without that rationalizing, I just don’t understand the decision. I’d have rather settled for a lower offensive candidate with the stipulation that we kept our terrific defensive coordinator or even promoted Wade Phillips as the head coach.
But it’s moot now. I’m not upset at VJ. I also do think that the problem isn’t just coaching, but we just lack some of the necessary cogs to excel and that perhaps this team was put on a pedestal a bit by good coaching last year, at least on the defensive side.
Also, ST has been pretty much historically bad, so we will absolutely need to move on from Olivo regardless. That’s all that I am absolutely certain of.
I used to occasionally listen to Marvin’s press conferences back when I used to listen to over the air radio. I see some similarities style wise.
I’d sign Tyrod and go OG/RT in the 1st.
…. and the 2nd… and the 3rd…
Do you have a favorite RT prospect yet?
Haven’t really watched any yet to be honest.
And flip OG/RT in the 2nd.
PFF’s “take” on the Bills QBs. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-qb-tyrod-taylor-benched-in-favor-of-nathan-peterman
I have to keep reminding myself that the book on Lynch has yet to be entirely closed. Though I’m skeptical, I think he needs an honest shot. Maybe he trends toward ‘gamer’. You never know.
I feel the same way. Give me 2 or 3 real games like he looked in the preseason and I would be ready to let go. Until then, it feels like they are forgetting the statements they made about him needing time.
Maybe he has the mysterious and unquantifiable “it” that Tebow was said to possess.
But I doubt that.
That is about where I’m at. 🙂
Paxton is getting number two reps in practice today. So, apparently the most recent report about his shoulder was total hogwash.
A loss to the Bengals would be better therapy than all the European shark stem cells in the world.
Marrone’s impulsive nature is well documented.
Marrone is in Jax now, what’s he have to do with this?
My bad. Remembered him escaping from there.
It’s hard to endorse this move, but Buffalo has been in a soft rebuild all season. I guess this actually gives them more information heading into the off season.
I will be. I am watching an unusual amount of college ball with the Broncos’ early exit and all.
I would be thrilled with either one or Mayfield.
I’m not sure about either of them. Darnold has so much talent around him he gets away with some lucky crap. Rosen has less talent, but looks less impressive as well.
I feel like Darnold came in with impossible to reach expectations and people are overweighing some bad plays this season in comparison to all the positives he brings. Rosen has as much natural arm talent as we’ve seen in a few years. When guys are being talked about all summer as being the number one overall pick, they get picked apart and perfect becomes the enemy of good.
Being a CU fan I’ve seen plenty of Rosen and Darnold in the Pac. I think the Broncos can’t go wrong with either, but Rosen’s shoulder injury is a bit concerning.
So are Rosen’s alledged lack of interpersonal skills overblown?
No way for any outsider to know this but let’s hope the Bronco’s interview process is more effective this time.
There is much to like about him (Rosen), but those rumors make me nervous.
In John we trust.
There are never any specific examples cited. IMO, his open criticism of the NCAA made him the target of a whisper campaign. He’s a smart guy and popular with teammates. As he ages, he’ll probably become a bit more temperate with his public comments. Think of all the teams that blew it on Aaron Rodgers just because Jim Mora Jr didn’t think he kissed ass hard enough in his interview and decided to make sure everybody knew it.
I don’t get to watch much on Saturdays, but I have been following the scouting take on Rosen and you are right: the legend of his dickishness has escalated considerably without the presence of qualifying incidents.
I’ve only heard teammates say good things about him. He did get some opposing coaches saying he shouldn’t use his platform to criticize college football. Which is easy for them since head coaches actually get paid in college and aren’t carrying a class load on top of their football responsibilities.
I’ve been thinking the same thing. Though football can be a painful hobby, its amazing how resilient the mind can be in trying to find other things within the same subject to look forward to, even when the initial focus is destroyed.
Browns fans get to watch all of the college football.
Based on prior QB scouting, maybe it should be someone other than that combo watching that game for the Broncos.
Pretty damn sure given current trends, QBs will go 1,2,3. We’re going to have to move up or get a second tier guy even in the high 1st.
Good thing the Broncos have extra picks in the fourth and fifth rounds. And maybe the third as well. Nick, how’s that looking these days?
But the Niners don’t need one, and I don’t really see Cinci taking a QB. San Diego is a question mark. Arizona or the Jets would have to leap way up, so the Broncos could actually be OK.
Also, to add: who’s going to have the cajones to take Mayfield at third overall? That would be something.
4ths and 5ths don’t get you to the top 3. Double digit losses and/or future 1sts are needed to get there.
Sure, but if they do decide to move up, at least they’ll be able to supplement the roster with those picks. I’m not convinced that QBs will go 1,2,3 anyway.
And if they do, we draft Quenton Nelson or Mike McGlinchey and there will still be some very good QB left in round two.
The Chargers picked Drew Brees as the 1st pick in the 2nd round. That turned out pretty good for them and for NO.
so here’s my connundrum: I can go to a bar and watch the Broncos play the Bengals in what will ultimately be a meaningless game and hope the Broncos can do what they have done quite infrequently: score a meaningful TD. Or, I can go play soccer with co-workers.
this may be the first time in a really long time that I miss a Bronco game on purpose.
And if we win, you have to take one for the game each week going forward for good luck purposes. 🙂
Running or drinking beer? That’s the question? Are there hidden cameras around here somewhere?
And the second worst is…
Surprised to see Rivers so low on that list.
I’m not. He’s been steadily declining for a while.
[Ben Roethlisberger] and Philip Rivers and Eli Manning — part of that historic quarterback class — are all much closer to the end than the beginning and are all showing weekly signs of erosion and all three of these franchises have to start thinking seriously as to where they go from here at the quarterback position.
[Ben Roethlisberger] and Philip Rivers and Eli Manning — part of that historic quarterback class — are all much closer to the end than the beginning and are all showing weekly signs of erosion and all three of these franchises have to start thinking seriously as to where they go from here at the quarterback position.
The Bengals are paying the Red Rocket more than 27 times as much as Trevor Siemian to be four shitty quarterbacks better than him.
What is this? Where is it from? I’ve never seen these type of statistics before.
I like that each quarterback is listed as “Human.”
Really giving Tom Brady the benefit of the doubt, IMO.
Wasn’t Laverneus Dingle one of the Key & Peele’s football player names? 🙂
This has your name all over it, @disqus_lhKkwXdiZo:disqus. 🙂
I’ve always found it funny that Bud Light and not Coors Light is the official beer of the Broncos.
Coors Light sponsored CU games back in my college days. This resulted in mockery even among college kids in the stands. I remember a Broncos game at the old Mile High back in the 80’s. The announcement of no-shows (something like 200 usually) was sponsored by Cambells Soup. The guy in front of us yelled out that they should shove the soup cans up their asses.
I remember advertisement signage for Coors Light and Marlboro at the old Mile High.
When I was at CU there was a flap about one of the Coors family being appointed to the Board of Regents. It had to do with him being an anti-intellectual fascist or something. There was a campus-wide boycott of the beer.
Turns out, the silly students didn’t realize that the Board of Regents membership is restricted to how much money one donates, rather than how much one cares about education.
Well, so much Big Brock being more durable than Treveryman Siemian.
Big Pax certainly isn’t.
I don’t know. It’s not like they back it up with any real facts or figures… Ugh. Sad truth..
It’s telling that the #1 selling Panther’s jersey in South Carolina is Luke Kuechly, while around the rest of the country, it’s Cam Newton.
Don’t get me wrong, Luke Kuechly is a phenom, but what other entrenched QB is outsold by a linebacker in this league?
Manning vs Miller jerseys. I would always see more 58
While I don’t disagree with the point about white privilege, the problem here is that Taylor hasn’t been been very good.
And Langley replacing Booker on KR? Booker is terrible as a KR…
Taylor has zero quicks.
So our KR and PR will just be kick receivers not returners.
McKenzie really didn’t need this video getting out.
Since surviving an 11 sack blistering by a Clemson defensive line that may yield four first round picks in 18/19, Stidham has completed 76.4% for 1946 yards, 12 TD and two picks. He has also rushed for a couple of touchdowns. I think he might be the best two way quarterback in the country after Mayfield.
November 5, 2017
I didn’t know much about this guy until you brought him up, but he’s been growing on me. Like many here, Mayfield is solidifying himself as my number 1 QB, but Stidham is coming on. The nice thing about him is he might be available in a Rd 2 or 3, after the Rosens, Mayfields, Darnolds, Jackson, Allens, Rudolphs etc. have been removed from the board.
Well, my desires on this are simple. I don’t care who we pick, but whomever it is, he’d better damn well turn out to be this generation’s Elway/Kelly/Marino/Montana. No Todd Blackledge’s, please. That’s all I ask.
Love JS, but don’t think he’s gonna declare for the draft thus yr.
Probably not a bad idea. He could be a first rounder next year, but in the running for first pick in 2019.
He could be a Bronco next year or a Brown in 2019!
Let’s hope Tyron Smith gets healthy to open it up for the other RBs against the Chargers and Raiders.
“I am party, baby.”
Gronk is the epitome of a person who goes to Mexico for spring break.
Deadspin once referred to Gronk as a “human Bicardi handle,” (“handle” meaning 1.75 liter bottle) and I couldn’t agree more.
Similar to Kaep as prior, we may make a run at FA QBs before the draft.
What dollar signs would you pay for each QB? With the assumption that Lynch doesn’t play the rest of this year and some of these QB have different contract years attached; strictly talking APY here.
Alex Smith (and what draft capital would you give)
Tyrod = 16 – 18
Brees = 22
Cousins = 24
A. Smith = 18, 4th
I would not pay Taylor that kind of money. He’s mediocre as a passer.
He has a nice deep ball, dual threat, and protects the ball. I have a feeling that is what his market value will be. Nick said earlier that he thinks he could be had for around 10 mill, which I think would be a GREAT deal. I will be the first to admit I like Taylor better than others. That doesn’t mean he will end up being any good though 🙂
I would make Cousins second highest paid, which would mean 25. I think that 15-18 would be fair for Taylor. I can’t see Brees leaving New Orleans or being nearly as effective away from Payton. I’ll give the Chiefs shit and shove them in it.
While I appreciate the KC sentiment, I agree with Bobby. Alex at 18 would be a great fit. Frees them up to take a QB in the draft, if so desired.
Alex would be a nice option but he is not available to a division rival. You might as well ask the Cowboys for a Dak for Paxton trade.
I need to cross check league-wide APYs, but I’d rank these guys 1. Cousins; 2. Brees; 3. Smith; 4. Taylor, in order of preference.
I would be willing to pay any of these QBs starting money provided the effective commitment is no longer than two years max, preferably one, and there is QB development behind them. I am more interested in finding a long term QB than I am a short term run
Tyrod: 18 max, limit guarantees. Nice stopgap in front of young QB
Brees: Ok with mid 20s as long as it’s year to year like Peyton
Cousins: Ok with mid 20s as long as commitment is not too long. Going all in as QBOTF with Cousins seems like a settle to me and we are no longer in “window” mode
Alex Smith: Not an option since he is in the division but would be ok with the 20s if he was.
In the end the veteran/rookie combo like Philly did last year seems like a good move.
Who would have thunk that Alex Smith with be the #1 Deep thrower and #5 best big time throw %. Friggin T. Hill.
Have us taking OT Orlando Brown in 1, then QB Ryan Finley in 2.
I will probably break something if we use this precious top ten pick on Son of Zeus. He’s going to make as many Pro Bowls as his dad (0) without slinging to the ground nearly as many Tripplettes.
I could live with Finley in round two.
While I’m talking to myself, McCoy should start Paxton and copy heavily from Wentz/Goff/Mariota’s playbook.
While I don’t normally recommend channeling Kiz, in this case I agree: