• Carsonic

    The thought of moving away from man to zone worried me, but I think Joseph may be right. And if he’s not, we can still fall back on being a kick-ass man D. http://www.9news.com/mobile/article/sports/joseph-hopes-more-zone-less-man-helps-denver-d-in-long-run/73-481831753

    • Yahmule

      It’s not a bad idea. Man also leaves us susceptible to scrambling quarterbacks, so if they can mix up the looks and still be effective, they’re going to be that much tougher.

      • Tyler

        Did our Man defense ever have a bad game against a scrambling QB? Nothing comes to mind for me.

        • Yahmule

          We didn’t play that many scrambling QB’s the last couple of seasons, but Alex Smith has given us some trouble and I think the Broncos are trying to preemptively take that away before this year’s matchups.

          • RSH

            We were on the same wavelength there, Yahmule.

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            The problem is we have truly looked lousy in zone coverage. I assume because we never practice. While I agree with the premise, I just hope we can figure it out without it costing us any games.

          • Yahmule

            I understand that there’s some risk, but can’t get down on Joseph for wanting to make the defense more versatile and harder to attack.

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            Oh yeah, no argument there. It’s just that in the past (one game against Pittsburgh comes to mind) they handled zone quite poorly.

            I’m hopeful it can be fixed through repetition, but also worry that there will be some costly growing pains. Champ was able to do it well. Will Harris?

        • RSH
          • Tyler

            Looking for examples I see Cam was the leading rusher for the Panthers in SB50 as well. Still, these games seem few and far enough between that I question the logic of messing with an all time great secondary like ours.

        • RyanHennigan

          When Miller spied Cam it seemed to work out just fine.

          • Yahmule

            I remember Von rushing Cam some downs, spying him on others and covering backs downfield on others. Wade and Von mixed things up and that’s part of the reason Cam was so ineffective. IMO, spying a QB all game long effectively means you’re playing 10 against 11.

  • InSiemianWeTrust
    • T. Jensen

      I think Okung’s numbers are helped by the fact that he’s blocking for a pro-bowl QB. Just like Manning’s pocket awareness inflated our horrible o-lines numbers for a few years.

      Also want to point out that the Chargers are sucking it up despite Okung’s numbers.

      I definitely think Watson was a mistake but I’m not sure we should have kept Okung.

  • Andrew
    • Yahmule
      • GrizzlyB

        That fan has some serious egg on his face right about now. He specifically requested that Carr not get his leg broken, but he didn’t say anything about his back.

    • Forrest Trump

      That’s just crazy. It looked like a stoning without the rocks…over a fucking game.

      Standing behind a security barrier and Billy Bad Assing a guy at his workplace when you know the cops and security will save you is just one step below Troll on the evolutionary ladder of shameless cowardice. All the rest of them ought to be ashamed, too.

    • InSiemianWeTrust

      Sure bet he’s glad he extended with the Raiders.

      • Yahmule

        He would enjoy it a lot more if he didn’t participate in beefs with idiots who have nothing to lose.

        • InSiemianWeTrust

          I can’t believe how bent out of shape he got over that. Players must get hate-mail all the time. Gotta let those go.

          • Yahmule

            No doubt this dude a jackass and probably a jackass who’s trying to get an out of court settlement, but only a fool engages with a guy like this. Having rabbit ears on the field is bad enough, but absolutely nobody is forcing a player to read these comments or respond to them.

    • Nick
  • The Color Orange

    Looks like old friend Chris Kuper will be getting a promotion to O-line coach for the Dolphins.
    https://sports.yahoo.com/dolphins-coach-chris-foerster-resigns-video-surfaces-inhaling-powdery-substance-142738424.html

    • Forrest Trump

      That video was just weird, man. Beyond the substance abuse. If I was the woman he was addressing, I’d get a restraining order.

      • Yahmule

        Instead she got him fired. Mainly because she was pissed @ Steven Ross for bowing to Trump’s attempts to keep sowing hatred over the anthem protests.

        • Forrest Trump

          She might not fully appreciate what she is dealing with there. I have some experience with guys like him.

          • Yahmule

            I think he was the one who drastically misjudged this situation.

          • Forrest Trump

            No doubt. Total lack of judgement or reason. Another big red flag.

            Some guys cloud the lines between the symbiotic using relationship and romance/love, though. Those guys can go way the fuck off the rails. They are most ‘betrayed’ by the other seeking recovery. They see it as supercharged hypocrisy and abandonment.

          • Yahmule

            She’s a hooker.

          • Forrest Trump

            Ahh.

            Doesn’t that make it even more irrational?

          • Yahmule

            He was completely delusional. I would think seeing his personal and professional life disintegrate in minutes would be a pretty harsh wakeup call.

            She’s living a high risk lifestyle already.

      • Nick

        When I saw that video, all I could think of is the music video for Feel Good Hit Of The Summer by Queens of the Stone Age. It’s fairly NSFW and I know many of you are at work so I won’t link to it here, but you can search for it on YouTube. Instead, I’ll just share a live version, it’s a badass song anyway.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8iceTw5jVQ

    • Nick

      Sometimes opportunities come from the most unexpected moments. Definitely looking forward for Kuper to make the best of it.

    • VonSwenson

      I hope he keeps his nose clean.

  • Nick

    So, with the Raiders losing their third straight (hooray!) and the Dolphins getting about as ugly of a win as you can imagine and sitting at 2-2, there might be some potentially good news ahead: OAK/MIA getting flexed out of Sunday Night Football Week 9, thus likely forcing the Raiders into the early day slot at Miami that they should have been forced into to begin with…and potentially replaced with DEN/PHI, getting the Broncos out of their own early slot trap on the East Coast, and also giving them a little extra time after the MNF game at KC.

    Here’s the Week 9 slate for now:

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/schedule/_/week/9

    CBS will protect KC/DAL because the Chiefs are undefeated Cowboys. FOX seems likely to protect ATL/CAR although WAS/SEA can’t be counted out either. Either way, because DEN/PHI is on CBS it’s not going to be protected and will be there for NBC to take if it wants it.

    The flex decision has to be made after Week 7. The Broncos have two very winnable games against NYG and LAC, and could (should!) be 5-1. The Eagles got a tough Thursday night game in CAR next up, then are home against WAS, a team they already beat on the road. Won’t be easy for the Eagles to also get to 5-1, but we should definitely root for them along with the Broncos for those games to hopefully get the flex.

    • Nick

      Minor correction, Eagles would be 6-1 if they win their next two.

    • RSH

      The Broncos would then have back-to-back Sunday night games, as they did in Weeks 11 and 12 of the 2013 season. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den/2013.htm. I would be all for a flex in Week 9 this season, as I would be able to watch Denver-Philadelphia live if it is a night game as opposed to an early Sunday game.

      • Nick

        As yes, the flex that was generated out of undefeated Kansas City hype…and then that hype was brutally crushed.

        • Jeremy

          That was an awesome game to be at

    • Russ

      I was gonna say (prior to RSH’s post) that this would be doubtful based on the fact that they (we) are playing the following week on Sunday Night. Also, can we get flexed into another night game when we are already at our max of 5?

      • Nick

        I’m not sure if the super late MNF or any TNF counts toward that total. It also doesn’t seem like that rule is as enforced as it used to be. RSH might know the details of that better than I would though.

      • RSH

        From what I understand, NFL teams may play up to five primetime games in a season. Up to three teams may play a sixth primetime game, assuming that one of their games is an NFL Network game. Teams may be originally scheduled for up to three NBC games (SNF and season opener), but they may be flexed into a fourth assuming they have not already reached the aforementioned limits.

      • Russ

        That would also give the Broncos three night games in a row and 4 out of 5 weeks.

        • Nick

          If they were in the Pac-12 or Mountain West, that would be the norm!

        • RSH

          Good point. A more feasible option would be to flex Denver-Philadelphia to the late afternoon, but the Kansas City-Dallas game more than likely eliminates such a scenario.

          • Nick

            Absolutely no way DEN/PHI gets moved to 4:25. CBS wants KC/DAL as a standalone for the whole nation because the Chiefs are undefeated Cowboys.

          • RSH

            I agree with your opinion, but disagree with CBS Sports’ faulty reasoning on the matter. 🙂

          • Nick

            FOX is even worse in this faulty judgment.

  • Nick

    Sorry (not sorry). Ravens are also incredibly beat up on the OL, including having to bring in Raider reject Austin Howard.

    https://twitter.com/VicTafur/status/917414613599240192

    Week 17 of 2014 was also this glorious game.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/game?gameId=400554445

    • RSH

      Mack barely played in the second half, as the Raiders mostly had him in for obvious pass rushing situations on third downs.

      • VonSwenson

        If he’s DPOY, why are they resting him so much? Afraid to get him hurt? Is he already hurt? It’s not as if they were cruising to an easy win.

      • Mack played 57 snaps (34 running / 23 passing). Miller only played 46 against the Raiders.

  • Nick
  • ohiobronco
    • Nick

      The only member of the No Fly Zone that he has any practice experience with would be Chris Harris.

      • RSH

        Second post today in which I and another Thin Airian were on the same wavelength.

    • RSH

      Mr. King, I would to introduce you to Aqib Talib and Bradley Roby. You are already acquainted with Chris Harris.

  • Royalwithcheese
    • Nick

      Sucks for KC, I thought Conley was an underrated WR that was getting much better.

  • RSH
    • Yahmule

      Ugh. Go Astros?

    • ElwayIsGod7

      Damn…I rarely feel sorry for AFC Teams, but I really haven’t developed any animosity toward Houston yet. Tough Break.

  • RSH

    Is Rhett Rothberg operating the Broncos’ Twitter account today?

    https://twitter.com/Broncos/status/917431736165953536

    • Jeremy

      Has it advocated starting Osweiler? If not, then it’s probably not him.

  • RSH
  • Nick
    • A bit late, didn’t the PA’s selection committee or leadership just elect to extend De Smith for 3 years?

    • Yahmule

      Or they quit fooling around and hire someone with actual experience and training in labor issues like MLB did back in 1966.

  • Yahmule

    Salivating.

    October 8, 2017

    • ElwayIsGod7

      I don’t trust this game…it’s too easy.

      My prediction is that ELI magically gets the ball out in like 2 seconds and has one of those magical Eli days where he’s pinpoint accurate, and some giant’s practice squad WR become OBJ 2.0.

      Until further notice, I’m expecting 24-21, last second field goal BS. I think we’ll beat the Pats by more than the Giants.

      • Nick

        As bad as the Giants’ offense looks, they haven’t had nearly as much attrition on the defensive side. It could easily be another 16-10 type game.

        • ElwayIsGod7

          I’m still scarred from 1998 Kent Graham to Amani Toomer…it seems like the Giants take one from us once a decade that makes no sense. 16-10 sounds about right to my pessimistic football-self.

        • Jeremy

          Over under is 40.5 which combined with the line of 12.5 means Vegas “predicts” a score of 26.5-14.

          If the defense gives up more than 10 points I’ll be disappointed. I could see the offense gifting some points to the Giants though

      • OnionKnight

        Same,
        Could be a situation like Chargers game to close out the season during our Superbowl run. We keep making plays and they result in turnovers. Their Defense can still make plays and they might feel like they have to show up and carry the team this week. This game scares me.

        In other words:

        Its a Trap!

    • Nick

      Pugh had to be thinking, “I know Bosa’s gonna blow up Flowers again, I’ve got to at least chip him and hope Ingram doesn’t get there in time.” Nope.

  • Jeremy

    Broncos are up to 12.5 point favorites, their highest since 2014 against the Raiders

    • Jeremy

      And Nick will be pleased to know it’s the highest against a non Raider opponent since 2013

      • Nick

        How many Raider games before you had to find to a non-Raider opponent?

        • Jeremy

          Only 2. Week 17 of 2013 we were only 10 point favorites because Vegas didn’t believe in Brock.

    • RSH

      I really hope that the Broncos put the Giants away early and do not let them back into the game.

  • Nick

    Another fun fact about the upcoming game: You have to go all the way back to 1989 to find a Giants at Broncos game that wasn’t played in primetime. This will be the 4th straight one.

    • gobroncos

      You mean the superbowl?

    • RSH

      In Week 2 of the 2013 NFL season, the Broncos played the Giants in the late afternoon slot. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201309150nyg.htm. In Week of 7 of the 2005 season, they also played in the late afternoon slot. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200510230nyg.htm. In Week 15 of the 1998 season, the Broncos played the Giants in the early afternoon slot. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/199812130nyg.htm

      • Tyler

        Those were all played in NY.

        • Nick

          Yep.

        • RSH

          Ah, yes, the keywords being “at Denver” I could just delete my comment, but I will own up to the mistake. 🙂

          • Nick

            Disqus is as unforgiving about mistakes as Twitter is.

      • Jeremy

        Week 15 of 98 was when the perfect season ended. We were 13 point road favorites

        • RSH

          Yup, as I alluded to below, I blame that on Tito Paul.

        • Paco Alonzo

          That game drove me crazy. I can’t help but think of that game every time we are going to play them.

    • Yahmule

      I remember that game. It was a heartbreaker. Bobby Humphrey tried to leap the pile at the goal line on 4th and a foot and Gary Reasons timed it perfectly smashed him right before he crossed the plane.

      • RSH

        What a frustrating series of play calls by Dan Reeves. He had John Elway, and he did not call a play action fake to roll him out of the pocket at least once? Ugh.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo-Q0KaCrCQ

        • Yahmule

          Weird the way memory works. I remember that play, but don’t remember that being a snow game.

    • gobroncos

      Do you mean they flexed the Broncos OUT of the prime time game?

  • Royalwithcheese

    What the hell is going on with the Steelers? Any opinions? Has Ben just lost it?

    • Poor play calling. Bell not being in camp was a distraction/prevented team from getting in sync (not that he didn’t have a valid reason for staying away, it’s his money/contract to handle… doubtful he appreciated AB’s public comments).

    • Forrest Trump
    • T. Jensen

      IDK fantasy wise Ben has always been poor during away games but he’s usually good at home. Also people have been saying the Jags defense is supposed to be better for years. Maybe this is the year?

  • Nick
    • Yahmule

      Floyd looked really good over the summer.

  • Royalwithcheese

    Man, the Baldy breakdowns are great. I highly suggest giving him a follow.

  • RSH

    I was aware of Karl Mecklenburg’s sack total that Von Miller has a very good chance of tying or surpassing on Sunday. I was not aware that he may tie or surpass Chad Brown as well.

    https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/917445781702844416

  • RSH
  • Royalwithcheese
    • JMac

      Feels like we’ve been going conservative in the 4th…

  • Royalwithcheese
    • RSH

      Will the Broncos keep four tight ends once Butt is activated or will Jeff Heuerman or Virgil Green be the odd man out?

    • OnionKnight

      He seemed pretty high on AJ Derby. Talked about him still converting as a College QB.

    • RSH
    • pubkeeper

      I want me some Butt!

  • RSH
  • Russ
    • Yahmule

      The Worldwide Leader in Capitulating to Racists.

    • Nick

      The reason seems obvious: boycotting sponsoring the Cowboys will eventually result in ESPN losing dollars from those sponsors when they broadcast a Cowboys game.

      Whether or not it was wise for ESPN to make a big deal out of this reason is a different debate altogther.

    • RSH

      We all lose when an atmosphere of anger or hostility or contention prevails. We all lose when we cannot debate public policies without resorting to boycotts, unnecessary employee discipline, firings, and intimidation of those that we disagree with.

      • Yahmule

        I don’t see why boycotts should be included in that group. Why should someone enrich a person or company they find repugnant?

        • RSH

          That is just my take on these matters from dealing with conflict and disagreement on a daily basis with respect to business, neighbor, family, real property, and employment law disputes. An individual or group of individuals should be free and entitled to lead a boycott, if such persons choose to do so. I wholeheartedly support that fundamental constitutional right afforded to each of us. Employment and collective bargaining agreements, however, can limit such a right.

          To me, there are generally more effective means to creating dialogue, resolution, and change that is more sustainable and less all-or-nothing in nature. As the Harvard Business Review, https://hbr.org/2012/08/when-do-company-boycotts-work, points out,

          [H]ow can you assess the likely success of a consumer boycott? The first thing to note is that while boycotts can be effective (Greenpeace’s boycott of Shell in 1995 reduced sales in Germany by up to 40%.) most fail to have any noticeable impact.

          • Yahmule

            Virulent anti-Semite Henry Ford bought a newspaper called the Dearborn Independent in 1919 and used it primarily to blame Jews for WWI. He also used the presses to print off a half a million copies of the infamous fictional text The Protocols of the Elders of Zion to further inflame anger against Jews. Eventually, the Anti-Defamation League and sympathetic observers engaged in a boycott of Ford products. He was forced to shutter the Independent in 1927. Of course, by then immeasurable damage was done.

            I don’t think any well organized boycott can be said to have no noticeable impact. Nobody expect people inside a particular company can really make that assessment. I think the corporate owned media tends to coalesce against such actions instinctively and minimizing their impact is a very deliberate process. The stereotypical broad brush characterizations of the Occupy Wall Street kids comes to mind off the top of my head.

        • Forrest Trump

          “Black Mirror” on Netflix has an episode called “Hated in the Nation” that gives a pretty dark scenario of where we might be headed with our often impersonal and sometimes misguided mass outrage.

          I think people should have access to all forms of protest. Social media has turned this previous forms of protest into a reflexive club designed to extinguish other POV’s. The Right loves them. My damn mother in law is boycotting about 15 different people and things at a time, and, more often or not, she doesn’t even really understand WTF actually happened, the whole story, none of it. She just boycotts on demand.

          That is not productive, IMO. It just fuels this particular climate.

          • Yahmule

            Anybody who takes a stance now pays a price whether they notice or not. One reason many boycotts don’t make a significant dent is because a lot of the people supposedly boycotting a particular product weren’t customers of that good or service in the first place.

            Some asshole in Tucson destroyed his business (and that of his two possibly unwitting partners) by posting a tirade on Facebook specifically designed to piss people off. To wit:

            https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/tucson.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/80/48088275-d91e-5320-922b-4ddccf57a5eb/59d7f9238d891.image.jpg

            Now, I’m not going to go on Yelp and mention the half a rat I found in my food the last time I visited this place, as so many people have done, but why would I want to eat in a place where (at least) one of the owners clearly hates my fucking guts?

          • Forrest Trump

            I’m not against individuals making personal decisions. There are certainly places or companies that I refuse to support.

            It just seems pretty much anything draws a call for boycott or some other punitive measure (suspension, loss of endorsements, etc) these days.

            I think we are straddling dark territory when we our first response to dissent is to lash out and punish. Yet we seem to trend more that way with each passing day.

  • Nick

    It’s a shame we won’t get to see Brandon Marshall tackle Brandon Marshall.

    https://twitter.com/kimjonessports/status/917478995062591494

  • RSH

    Yahmule is not the only one salivating today. 🙂

    https://twitter.com/MaseDenver/status/917485310220566528

    • Yahmule

      Free rein, Shane. Free range is for Von’s chickens.

      • Holzy

        Mixed up sayings make me laugh. A common one I keep hearing around here is ‘Take it for granite.’

        • DCJ1

          Taking thing for granite isn’t gneiss.

          • Yahmule

            My sediments exactly.

        • Yahmule

          For all intensive purposes.
          He made a 360 degree change.
          Nip it in the butt.

      • gobroncos

        Yeah, but how much of that was whoever typing it up mishearing what he said? This was a quote right? So maybe he said free rein, but the person typing it later threw in range not really thinking about it. I dunno. Just sayin’. Giving him the benefit of the doubt. Although I probably wouldn’t take that bet.

  • RSH
  • RSH

    I wish that we would bring in Albert for a workout.

    https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/917498751048212481

    • G Mik

      He doesn’t want to play badly enough to be good. He might be worse than what we have. More talented, absolutely, but less desire and in the NFL that doesn’t play out well.

    • Royalwithcheese

      Elway won’t admit a mistake this quickly.

      • RyanHennigan

        I never understand these comments. The does not seem to be many good linemen left in this league. Many teams are struggling to find them. I do agree that a wet blanket might be better than Watson but not by much. Franklin is the one I would kick the tires on but there must be a reason that no one has reached out to him. It isn’t just Elway.

        • Royalwithcheese

          What I’m saying is that if there were a clear-cut superior RT available right now, Elway wouldn’t sign him. He won’t admit he was wrong after four games.

  • Random Anonymous Coward

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLuOOoEVAAAqcC1.jpg > “commitment to mediocrity”

  • RSH

    As they did, in their 2009 Thanksgiving night victory over the Giants.

    https://twitter.com/TroyRenck/status/917507757628039168

  • RSH
    • Nick

      Something I didn’t realize until yesterday is that Hogan surpassed Cody Kessler. That’s a 2nd and a 3rd round pick on QBs that aren’t looking good.

      • G Mik

        If you were drafted by the Browns you have about a 0% chance of making it regardless of the round you were taken in :-). In all seriousness, unless you were picked 1st/2nd overall it’s like throwing a dart against a moving board to find a solid QB, regardless of being a Brown.

    • GrizzlyB

      I didn’t like him much anyway, but that’s a shitty situation for Kizer — they’re primed to have a top pick, if not #1 overall, and no way is it worth passing up on Rosen to see if Kizer can do anything if he’s been on the bench all season after a poor start.

  • RSH
    • OnionKnight

      Poor Chargers can’t even catch that break.

    • Random Anonymous Coward

      What a terrible thing to rush him back in. The Cowboys and Tony Romo did that with gruesome results.

    • gobroncos

      Surprising considering they could probably beat the chargers without him. Maybe they can’t take that risk being a divisional game.

      • Nick

        The simplest answer is that Carr will likely be healthy enough that he’ll be the better option than a 100% EJ Manuel.

        • gobroncos

          Simplest answer still carries a risk that needs to be weighed. One sack by Bosa or Ingram and could be out the rest of the season. Sure, you could say that any play, but there’s increased chance it seems with his particular injury. And the location makes me think he’ll be less mobile.

      • ohiobronco

        They could lose with him too.

  • InSiemianWeTrust

    “However, the one area in which Trevor Siemian is consistently executing is on third down. And that’s a huge indicator that he is steadily progressing on the path to a franchise-caliber quarterback.

    Heading into the Week 5 bye, Siemian owns the NFL’s third-highest passer rating (114.8) on third down, having completed 27-of-40 passes (67.5%) for 322 yards and four touchdowns with one interception.”

    https://scout.com/nfl/broncos/Article/Film-Room-Analyzing-The-One-Area-Trevor-Siemian-Is-Killing-It-Fo-108506099

  • RyanHennigan

    For those without cable or ESPN that want to watch Mitch Turd-butt-ski. Seeing how he does against a real NFL team might be the only interesting part of the game tonight.

    https://sportify365.blogspot.hr/

  • Nick

    Has anyone commented yet on how terrible the return of Hank Williams Jr. combined with whoever the hell his new Rowdy Friends is?

    • Yahmule

      Of all the children of famous people, I believe Hank Jr inherited the least amount of talent.

  • Nick

    We may have just reached peak Foxball:
    –Keep the offense on for 4th and 2
    –Take a timeout to avoid a delay of game penalty
    –Start to send the punt team out, but then change your mind and send the offense out
    –Predictably, not enough time, especially with a rookie QB, and they incur a delay of game penalty
    –Punt

    • ohiobronco

      Embarrassing, then he acts like its a big joke.

      • Nick

        Yeah, that was one hell of a shit eating grin.

      • Yahmule

        He still can’t believe he made the playoffs and got fired.

    • Nick

      Didn’t take Fox long at all to out trend the Chicago team that’s actually winning:

      https://i.imgur.com/MSG2zHe.png

  • Nick

    If you like defense, then this game is for you.

  • InSiemianWeTrust

    Oof. Bullshit sack/safety.

    • GrizzlyB

      New Orleans made that dude look like an All-Pro his last time out.

  • Yahmule

    Another flag filled national TV game.

    • DCJ1

      Booger’s crew kinda sucks.

      • Yahmule

        No argument, but it seems like many refs enjoy the TV face time that comes with these night games.

  • InSiemianWeTrust

    Trubisky’s natural accuracy showing up. His throws have been in stride and right on the hands.

    He and Swag Kelly are more similar than not. Fast feet, excellent short and intermediate accuracy.

  • gobroncos

    I’d be fine if Howard and Cohen combine for 12 FF points and Steffon Diggs and Kyle Rudolf both get shut out.

  • gobroncos

    Fox kinda looks like a homeless guy they picked up from outside the stadium to be the head coach because the bears real coach went MIA.

  • Yahmule

    It’s 3 to fucking 2 still.

    • Nick

      It’s a shame the Cubs-Nats game ended 2-1, they were able to outscore that. The joke of the Bears equaling the Cubs’ offense still holds for now, though.

      • DCJ1

        NY-CLE Has a better football score than the football game.

  • gobroncos

    Man, 3-2? This is a real barn burner! It could only be more exciting if it was 2-2

    • Yahmule

      Now 4-4 I would tune in to see.

      • gobroncos

        haha…and we aint’ talkin’ ’bout records neither!

        • Yahmule

          The record for safeties in a game is three and Fred Dryer is still the only guy to record two in one game. They both came in a Rams 24-7 win over the Packers in the LA Coliseum in 1973. Dryer beat Green Bay tackle Malcolm Snider twice in a five minute span in the fourth quarter. The Stanford educated Snider retired a year later and became an orthopedic surgeon in Oregon.

          Dryer played defensive end at a rangy 6’6″, 240 pounds for 13 years and he was incredibly durable. He retired in 1981, lost out the role of Sam Malone on Cheers to Ted Danson and wound up landing the lead in Hunter, as a rough and tumble detective that didn’t play by the rules. That nonsense stuck around for seven years.

      • Nick

        One of my dreams is to see a final score of 4 for one team in a football game. I know the Rams once scored 4 points in one quarter that wasn’t the 1st. You can do it, Bears defense!

    • Nick
      • gobroncos

        That was pretty sweet!

  • gobroncos

    Did fox really just kick the extra point? Why not go for two? It’s not like they’ve come close enough to kick a field goal yet and their only touchdown was on a trick play.

    • OnionKnight

      Even when he’s daring, he does it conservatively.

    • Nick

      He must still be traumatized from going for 2 in Super Bowl XXXVIII

      • gobroncos

        I think you forgot the Sarcasm Font

  • DCJ1

    And another fine Foxball moment – a gutsy fake punt call to get within 2, then kick the PAT rather than try to tie. So glad he’s Chicago’s problem.

    • RyanHennigan

      I came in to see him shaking 1 finger in the air. What sense does that call make when it is the 3rd quarter and you may never score again? And if you miss it, a field goal still could take the lead.

    • Prater2Beadles4Six

      I guess there are some benefits to it being believable that you would punt from your opponent’s 38

  • Nick
    • gobroncos

      Dang, wonder if he’ll retire. He’s a bit long in the tooth for a WR now.

  • Nick

    Now that 2 point conversion was very anti-Foxball…

    • DCJ1

      That was… different. Definitely not a Foxball call.

    • gobroncos

      A lot could have gone wrong with that play.

  • RyanHennigan

    Nice call. Bitch Titties for 2.

  • gobroncos

    This game got good. I just need Cohen and Howard to score 2 Td’s between them and for Diggs to score a TD.

  • Hank Mardukis

    Fuck Jerry Jones and Fuck the league. I lose more respect for the NFL every year.

    • Random Anonymous Coward

      If you disrespect the league you disrespect the flag!

      • gobroncos

        Yeah! Go back to where ever you emigrated from ya fuckin' foreigner!

      • DCJ1

        We must have respect for the flag. Respect for the flag is much more important than respect for human life and dignity. Stars and Stripes uber alles!

        • Random Anonymous Coward

          the whole spin is to make it about the flag, not about cops killing people with no repercussions whatsoever, which was the original point, but most people forgot by now, very successful strategy this fake outrage was

    • gobroncos

      I think it’s just par for the course. Jones has always been kind of a piece of shit.

      • Random Anonymous Coward

        He’s a coward and I hope half the team calls his bluff and kneels.

        • gobroncos

          I would love that!

        • Nick

          I sure do get a bit of “the lady doth protest too much methinks” with Jerrah here, and that this could easily backfire on him.

          • Random Anonymous Coward

            He’s doing the right thing business wise, he priced out his seats, stadium, even the parking lot out of the demographic that could boycott him as protest. While Dallas is pretty diverse, the gamegoers are basically just upper middle class white people, and not the kind that gives a damn about social issues, but the $90,000 pickup trucks with “build a wall” sticker on them.

            He’s still a hypocrite.

        • gobroncos

          It’s complete bullshit because he knelt when the whole league did it in retaliation for what Trump said. Now he’s flip flopping? Asshat

  • Nick

    Should the Bears let them score here? Either that or pray for a missed chip shot FG.

    • Nick

      OK, seeing the Kai Forbath missed FG reel now makes me say no, combined with a rookie QB.

  • gobroncos

    What’s the over under on pulling a Nick Folk?

  • OnionKnight

    Not to start an argument either way, but since the Department of Defense pays the NFL to have its players standing on the field for the National Anthem, could it be construed as a violation of a contracted agreement between the NFL and the DoD if they were in essence in violation of the contract by kneeling? If so, than would not the NFL have some actual enforcement authority over its employees that do not stand? I’m asking because it seems that there is a subtle difference to me between exercising your right to free speech on your own time as to when your actually engaged at your employment.

    • Jeremy

      Didn’t Goodell order all those deals ripped up and the money returned?

    • DragonPie

      Well, I think that it’d be an obvious violation of free speech for the a government entity to compel individuals to express themselves according to their wishes. Now, as far as the NFL is concerned, they would be able to discipline players for expressing themselves as free speech doesn’t necessarily protect employees from facing punishment from their employers for their speech.

      But, I don’t think it’s feasible to punish such a huge population of players and it’d only embroil the league in more controversy and would come across as them taking a side and opposing free expression.

      • OnionKnight

        I’m not saying the optics would be good and your statement sounds more like a government being oppressive as opposed as a contracted entity (which in this case the DoD is) requesting the NFL uphold its side of the contract or face significant and severe penalties. There are typically severe penalties baked into contracts with explicit causes that would excuse them, but I doubt their being enacted by anything going on right now.

        • DragonPie

          But that would be a governmental entity enforcing a contract that requires the squelching of free speech. The NFL isn’t beholden to the constitution, but the department of defense is.

          At least, that’s how I’d understand it, but I’m not a lawyer of constitutional law or anything.

          Actually, maybe we can just wait for actual lawyer to answer.

          • OnionKnight

            Its why I asked the question. Its on very shaky ground and even if it were legal, the optics would be so bad as to be pretty much unpalatable. I’m really asking mostly for curiosity sake.

      • RSH

        NFL players have not entered into a federal contract with the federal government. The NFL has entered into such a contract. As a condition of employment or a collective bargaining agreement, NFL players could be compelled to stand for the national anthem. The compelled government speech argument is not legally sound in this situation.

        Washington University in St. Louis School of Law Professor, Greg Magarian, summed up the issue well. https://source.wustl.edu/2017/09/washu-expert-nfl-protests-not-protected-first-amendment-matter-free-speech/. Said he,

        The NFL players’ protests around the National Anthem remind us that the First Amendment applies, as a matter of law, only to government action. . . . [P]rofessional athletes don’t have a First Amendment right to protest at games. Teams can take actions against players, subject to contract provisions and union agreements.

        Free speech, however, isn’t just a legal guarantee — it’s a social value. We don’t really care if our speech, or the speech of someone we want to listen to, is suppressed by the government as opposed to private action. What we care about is getting to speak and listen. That’s why NFL players’ national anthem protests, even though not protected by the First Amendment, matter as free speech. NFL teams don’t have to respect players’ protests, but they know that many of us would be unhappy if they suppressed the protests. That’s a good thing.

        • gobroncos

          This sounds like a dangerous and slippery slope. You have a government with lots of money, paying rich people who control a large population of people through employment, many of whom have national attention and focus on a weekly basis. Rich people generally have similar viewpoints and political affiliations and it may not be that of it’s employees. If the government has a contract compelling them to force employee’s to do something, that seems like a direct path for the government to control the population with legal action.

          All the government needs to do is go into contract with the wealthiest people in the US who employ the most people, and they can suppress free speech, or indoctrinate them?

          That’s fucked!

    • cjfarls

      Does the DOD contract specifically say the players must stand? That would need to be a pretty specific contract clause… and in that case their complaint would be against the NFL for breach of contract, not against the players themselves.

      It has always been the case that the NFL can fire the players if it wants to. No one has really disputed that. It just impractical to think they could ever fire more than a couple players, firing one would likely lead to many more taking a knee (see CK), and the optics of doing so would be far worse than letting the players quietly do their thing.

      • gnasses

        I am not so sure the NFL can simply fire the players. Most of us working slobs are at-will employees in which case we can be fired for any reason or no reason at all. NFL players are unionized employees under a contract with specific agreements and obligations for respective parties. I would think they cannot be fired unless there is a provision for such in their contract. If the NFL used a liberal interpretation of a behavior clause in their contract, they might be legally vulnerable.
        IANAL, so this is based on my limited understanding as simply the spouse of a Teamster steward.