• The Color Orange
    • Steven_Searls

      Says video unavailable for me unfortunately so I will just assume it was Odell Beckham like.

      • Sparks

        Not quite. Wasn’t even near as impressive as Sunshine’s one-hander in TC last year or 2 years ago. He basically snagged it behind him but then popped it up in the air and then re-caught it. Could have been an interception if there was a defender.

        • DragonPie

          He was close to genuinely making a great catch, but just lost the handle.

          Still, silly sensational practice videos is what we get this time of year.

          Gotta hype.

          • Sparks

            You a Sutton fan?

      • The Color Orange
        • Steven_Searls

          Thanks

  • The Color Orange
    • Nick

      OK, let’s go down this rabbit hole, since there’s not much else to do at this time of year:

      If the Broncos sign Kaepernick for 2017, what’s their record that season?

      • Paco Alonzo

        Mostly likely the same. I don’t think Kap would of lasted long behind that OL last year.

      • Kndh19

        I’m going to go with 8-8. A definite improvement for a terrible offense, but still a mediocre team overall.

        • FarAwayBroncoFan

          And do we really think Case is going to sustain that magic in a bottle and actually perform better than Colin would have?

          I’m glad we got Chubb, but unless Case proves to be for real, we still need a QB.

      • RSH

        7-9 or 8-8. Kaepernick may have led the Broncos to victories against the Bengals, at Oakland, and possibly at Buffalo. The Broncos probably would have been out of playoff contention come Week 17, without victories at Buffalo, against Cincinnati, and at Oakland, so I am not sure if Kaepernick would have started that week at home against the Chiefs.

      • DCJ1

        Okay, this is better than actually working this morning. I took a simple look at the TD and INT stats of the gestalt Denver QB, and compared them to Kaep’s averages, then adjusted the game scores.

        On the TD side, Denver QBs contributed 19 TDs, which is Kaep’s season average, so there was no change in offensive score total.

        On the INT side, Denver QB’s had 20 INTs, while Kaep averages only 7 per season. I adjusted the INTs by first reducing all multi-INT games to single INTs, then randomly removing INTs to get to 7 INTs. With that change, Denver gets wins at Cinti and the last Chiefs game moving to a 7-9 season.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/52e24985b91da0a43d944c945db1895ba65e0ac8a81c9d2ba8eaf8573518d08d.png

        • Sparks

          So, exactly the same place we are at now but without a realistic chance of getting Chubb, Nelson or any of the top 4 QB’s?

          • DCJ1

            Pretty much. Although I’d say that +2 wins is a conservative guess: I think it can be argued that the strictly numeric approach doesn’t fully account for bad QB play. The Giants game is a good example — taking out INTs didn’t flip the game since there was only one, however the offense was still abysmal with a huge number of drops and other miscues. Having Kaep in there might have created more TDs. The offense also put the defense in a lot of short field situations, which again is something that’s not captured.

            Still, only two of the hypothetical losses are one-score games, so I’d put a solid 9-7 cap on the potential season, which is as you say, essentially the same place without decent draft picks. The entire offense contributed to the poor showing, and the QBs lacked the PMFM-like ability to overcome.

          • JMac

            It also does take into account Kaep getting critical 1st downs with his legs when needed. It’s hard to quantify how that would have kept the offense rolling.

          • Yahmule

            In 75 career games, Kaep ran for 50 or more 23 times. More than 100 four times.

          • DragonPie

            Quality running QB’s actually improve the run game as well as the pass game.

          • Yahmule

            I think we had plenty of guys getting open last season, but Siemian was too broken to make any plays after eight quarters. He had six touchdown passes and we scored 66 points in the first two games. Kaepernick or any top 20 quarterback could have gotten us to the playoffs last season.

            There was nothing wrong with the defense last season. Maybe they had some lapses after playing more than two seasons with an offense that couldn’t get out of their own way. Who wouldn’t? These guys probably feel like Ricky Roma in Glengarry Glen Ross by now: “WHAT YOU’RE HIRED FOR, is to help us… does that seem clear to you? TO HELP US, not to… FUCK US UP!”

            And yes, they deserve Pacino in full ham mode.

        • FloydLittle44

          I guess I would rather have Bradley Chubb over 7-9

        • Yahmule

          Kaepernick’s career TD rate is 4.3%. The Bronco quarterbacks had a combined rate of 3.4% last season. That’s more than 20% more efficient. Kaep also averages over 400 rushing yards per season, which is how many more first downs? He was a much better quarterback than anybody we’ve had since Manning.

          • DCJ1

            True it is more efficient, but to keep my math simple I just went with TDs scored (run/pass) per game. Like I said, very much a simplification.

            I guess we differ in how much to lay at the feet of the QB. TS got broken early. Oz and Pax did no better than the broken TS. That’s bad QBing right there. But TS got broken because the line was relatively porous. Third down conversions were way too hard, and there were way too many 3rd and longs. And special team was busy shooting both the offense and the defense in the foot.

            I think it is way too optimistic to say they were a playoff team with CK. A better team most certainly, but there was way too much wrong last year.

          • Yahmule

            I think there’s 100% chance we make the playoffs in 2016 and better than 50% last year. If the 2017 offense doesn’t suck balls and get swept by the gutless Chiefs, 9-7 takes the division.

      • Yahmule

        How about we don’t try to ridiculously lowball him in 2016 and instead of using pick 31 and 94 on Paxton, they draft Michael Thomas or Deion Jones in round one and use that third rounder as capital in another trade?

        That would have meant 2-6 more post season games for Von.

    • Yahmule

      Last offseason, the Broncos were again in the market for a QB. And again they chose to eschew Kaepernick, who had opted out of his deal with the 49ers, claiming he wasn’t a good fit for the offensive scheme. Elway, approached by TMZ paparazzi, intimated he was unsure if Kaepernick could still compete at the pro level.

      “I don’t know,” Elway said in March of 2017. “I haven’t been close enough to him to be able to tell.”

      Because, you know, there’s literally no way to determine this kind of thing with a meeting and a workout. I hope John sucks this bad on the stand and Kaep walks away with a fortune.

      • The Color Orange

        Anyone surprised to see Klis carrying Elway’s water? This is the most ridiculous tweet. Elway tried to sign Kaepernick for well below market value, and that was BEFORE Kaepernick ever kneeled during the anthem. Kaepernick’s lawsuit is based on what happened AFTER he kneeled. This is embarrassing even for Klis.
        https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/996592879266021376

  • bradley
  • bradley

    Eagles’ Lane Johnson: Kraft, Belichick talked trash to Lurie, Pederson before Super Bowl

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/eagles-lane-johnson-kraft-belichick-talked-trash-to-lurie-pederson-before-super-bowl/

  • bradley

    2018 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year picture: Top 11 candidates, with a surprising No. 1

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2018-nfl-offensive-rookie-of-the-year-picture-top-11-candidates-with-a-surprising-no-1/

    Royce Freeman makes the list.

  • bradley
    • Sparks

      First off. Thanks Bradley for the starting links every morning. I appreciate it. So, orange tinted glasses firmly in place here, but I’ve been wondering if the Broncos weren’t so gung-ho to get a rookie QB not because of Keenum and giving him a ‘fair shot’ but rather they really like what they’ve seen in Swag over the last year. I won’t rehash his stats here (link below – some very impressive wins), but the kid is a player. His issues were injuries and off-the-field stuff. Hopefully maturity is helping the off-the-field stuff. I find it very encouraging that not a peep was heard from him during his redshirt season, yet he went to every game, was in every team meeting. On the injuries, it remains to be seen if it’ll be a lingering issue or something he can get past.

      I firmly believe had he come out this year, and not had the injury/maturity baggage, he would have been in the discussion with the other top 4 QB’s. I know that the back-up QB is always the most popular guy but I have high hopes for young Kelly.

      https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/chad-kelly-1.html

      • pubkeeper

        Agreed. I think the fact that he remade himself physically, as was noted by the beat writers and vj, shows he has been focused the past year. Staying quiet, making all the meetings are also encouraging signs. And his repeated comments about developing consistency, striving to learn every day, etc stand in sharp contrast to what we’ve seen and heard from the first rounder.

    • SteveS

      I’m not sure what the Freudian slip was, but I think Lynch’s seeming inability to process fast enough is his Achilles heel (I love using multiple historical references in the same sentence). While I’m intrigued by what Kelly might bring to the table, we still don’t have any idea as to whether his processing talents are any better. I really hope that Kelly gets the #2 reps in the preseason (admittedly not “real” games), so we can see whether there’s real vs. imagined potential there. If it were up to me, I’d move Lynch as fast as possible.

    • FloydLittle44

      Yikes, who wants a QB that can’t handle competition.

  • RSH
    • Nick

      Yikes, he’s not a fan of Keenum at all.

      And that safety grade makes no sense at all, that could end up being the deepest position on the team.

      • Alaskan

        He has the Broncos set for 6 wins.
        If that happens, we’ll be sporting a new coach this time next year.
        I think Denver will do better than that, but I guess we’ll see.

        • G Mik

          I see 5-7 wins as a real possibility. Maybe a likelihood. Unless Keenum/Musgrave can make magic, I just don’t see this team doing much. Taking off the orange-colored glasses, expecting Keenum to not regress from last year in MN, might be asking a lot. I’m not a big fan of VJ’s though I’m glad he’s got another year to redeem himself… I’m just not very confident he’ll be able to do so. Couple that in with Joe Woods, who did not impress last year, could spell trouble.

          The one thing we have going for us is that it’s a great organization. They expect to win. Our defense is talented and has the ability to take over a game though losing Talib will hurt. Can Woods get everything out of them like Wade did? Special Teams will be better and they truly killed us last year so it’s fair to expect a ton of improvement there.

          Being more optimistic – If Special Teams are above to well above average they won’t lose us 2 games like they did last year. Maybe they help us win 1 or 2. And with improved QB play and O Coordination – which even if Keenum isn’t solid he will be an upgrade – could add a few more wins. Assuming our Defense is as good/better than last year we can hope for 10 wins. But I think that’s optimistic. 5-7 might just be more realistic. Then we have a new Coach like Kubes who comes in and wins a Super Bowl in his first year.

          • T. Jensen

            I’m really hoping Chubb can bring us back to Super Bowl 50 level defense. But I share your same opinions on the coaching staff. I really wish we had gone Kyle and Wade…

          • G Mik

            Just not sure how big of an impact Chubb will have this year. It’s not fair to expect a Von Miller level impact though anything near his rookie season would be enough of a boost to make us comp in every game as I expect Ray to have a great year as well. I still think not optioning him will be a huge mistake.

          • T. Jensen

            Ware had an impactful if limited role that year. I’m hoping that Chubb can make an impact in the limit snap count he might get. Basically hoping he can come in a spark the defense like Ware did. I also think a healthy Ray will help. Obviously Ware also had leadership skills that Chubb probably won’t fill (at first).

          • G Mik

            Totally agree on Ware but when he played he was the most disruptive defender on the field most downs. He just made plays when we needed them.

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            If we win 5 games this year, who’s the QB in 2019? Is Keenum gone? I’d assume so. Hopefully they can grab a QB in the top 5 of the draft. My worry is we’ll win 7 or 8, and be too far down to snag a top QB prospect.

          • Sparks

            Agreed. My biggest fear is Keenum will be just good enough to have us selecting in the 15-20 range, but not good enough to solidify a playoff berth. I touched on it below, though, and maybe we got something in Kelly that after 2 years will be ready to see some live action.

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            I agree. I’m afraid to have hope for Kelly, though. I’d love to see it, I just think the odds are so stacked against him.

          • G Mik

            I doubt they view Keenum as the long-term answer anyway. And yes the dreaded 7/8 win area would be a disaster of sorts. I’m hopeful about Kelly but more than likely we are looking at other FA’s or moving up in the draft.

          • royalwithcheese

            I’m having trouble seeing this team reaching 8-8. Improved QB and special teams play will help. The question is by how much. A 6-10 season, new coach and selecting a QB in the first round seems more likely than the playoffs to me.

          • G Mik

            Isn’t 5-11 with no more than a blowout or two much improved? Sad but true.

      • Drewredux

        Just like last year, I would expect our overrated S group to be the defensive Achilles Heal.

        Stewart is in decline and Simmons instincts fall well short of his measurables.

        Parks is the only guy with a real long-term pulse.

        • royalwithcheese

          Strongly disagree.

          • Drewredux

            As do most. 😀

          • Drewredux

            Too elaborate:

            Stewart is in decline.
            Simmons IS a dependable tackler. He,s closer to traits FS than real FS. He is bad in coverage, none the less.
            Parks is Stewart 5 years ago.
            Carter blows chunks.

          • Nick

            How about Cravens? Or do you think he’s not a true safety?

          • Drewredux

            In a rational world, Cravens relegates Simmons to Big Dime.

          • G Mik

            I like the controversial opinion and believe it has some merit but…
            Stewart – decline is fair and he’ll be gone next year.
            Simmons – may not have elite instincts but good enough. This is his 3rd year and he can be appropriately judged after the season – anything now is premature.
            Parks – Stewart 5 years ago? I’m not sure we see him the same at all. I think he has fair coverage skills for a safety but doesn’t have the aggression Stewart has/had. No where near. He is an above average role player on a great defense. Surround him with less talent and he sinks.
            Cravens – might bring some real flexibility and mystery to the defense but we’ll have to see what a year away from the game has done to him. I don’t think he’ll ever be better than Simmons despite being a higher draft choice though might have some key attributes that allow him to stand out in our defense.

          • Drewredux

            I’d call that an extremely fair rebuttle. ☺

            The only thing I disagree with is safeties either have instincts or they don’t. They don’t usually improve there. That, and I’ll add that Parks plays with vinegar to my eyes.

          • Yahmule

            I think Stew laid more memorable hits than TJ Ward when they played together. Dude is fearless.

          • G Mik

            I don’t think we win that game if he doesn’t absolutely crush Tolbert and dislodge the ball. Momentum had shifted in that game and they were running the ball down our throats all of a sudden. We could do very little on offense and if they scored I think they go on to win the game and it looked as if they would. It at least felt that way to me. Then little Stewart comes in like a missile and I don’t think Tolbert, the human bowling ball he is, had been hit like that all year.

          • Sparks

            How do you come up with “blows chunks” for a guy who only played 77 (7.79%) snaps on D last season? I don’t know if that’s a large enough sample size to label him that way. He did play 340 (74.56%) snaps on ST’s last year, only 9 snaps behind Parks. Good enough for 2nd on the team.

            I know it’s cherry-picking but a quick comparison on D:
            Stewart – 888 snaps, 52 tackles, 11 assists, 3 INT – avg 1 tackle every 17.08 snaps and 1 assist every 80.73 snaps
            Simmons – 736 snaps, 46 tackles, 17 assists, 2 INT, 1 sack – avg 1 tackle every 16.00 snaps and 1 assist every 43.29 snaps. Was hurt and missed the last 3 games, thus upping Parks numbers.
            Parks – 596 snaps, 32 tackles, 15 assists, 1 INT – avg 1 tackle every 18.63 snaps and 1 assist every 39.73 snaps.
            Carter – 77 snaps, 6 tackles, 2 assists, 0 INT – avg 1 tackle every 12.83 snaps and 1 assist every 38.50 snaps.

            We’ve had our back and forth on Simmons so I’ll just leave it that we can agree to disagree as I think Simmons is the best S on the roster and has the brightest future.

          • Drewredux

            He looked slow and stiff to me. The best element of his game is increasingly obsolete.

          • royalwithcheese

            To elaborate, I think Simmons is going to take “the leap” into the upper echelon of safeties this year, and Cravens will probably steal some snaps from Stewart, who I agree is on the decline. I don’t see much from Parks, who could easily be on the bubble this year if Carter emerges.

    • FloydLittle44

      Bullshit. This is why I much prefer alternative analysis and local sources (not all) to the major media know nothings

    • Yahmule

      Not much of a fantasy football expert if I don’t recognize his name from the NFFC.

  • Drewredux

    Some dead season fun:

    https://youtu.be/blk1RezMCvo

    • Alaskan

      That was fun. But it was interesting how often it was Talib doing the scoring.
      I think we’ll miss him, but life goes on.

      • Drewredux

        Most exciting play in football, IMO.

        I think they will miss Talib on a whole plethora of levels, which isn’t to say that there are worse players to move on from than and a mouthy, potentially disruptive 30+ CB.

    • Nick

      Lots of random Bronco name generator results there (Cassius Vaughn, Andre Goodman), yet no Champ Bailey.

      • Kush-Lash

        A couple observations….

        1. That San Diego Game, with the comeback… MMMMMMMMMM Good!
        2. I have a feeling Roby might just make up for any impact lost by cutting Aquib.
        3. I think the scoop and score is 10x more difficult than a pick six. In many instances with the pick, your momentum is carrying you in the opposite direction of the offense while a scoop requires timing the bounce of an oblong shaped ball and competing with others who have already had a split second to already react.

        • Kush-Lash

          Correction. I meant to reply to @drewredux:disqus Though it was fun identifying names from years past.

          • Kush-Lash

            Also, that 2012 team was probably the best Broncos team in the Manning era. Such a shame how it ended, but they won 11 straight starting with that Chargers game. Fun team.

          • Sparks

            They say each season is different, different players, coaches, schedule, but I believe one game can have a lasting effect on a team. Positively and negatively. I believe that Chargers game started us on the 4 year tear that culminated in SB 50. That game instilled belief/faith. After that game, we were never out of a game, outside of a few select games not to be named. The Drive had the same kind of impact.

          • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

            I was there live for that one. Chargers fans were giving me lots of shit at halftime when it was 24-0. I had a lot of fun when they started pouring out of the stadium with 8 min left to go in the game.

          • Sparks

            That would have been a fantastic game to see live.

          • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

            I’ve been to a lot, and that was probably the best.

          • QDoc

            The Giants game was that “lasting effect” game from last year. No way we should have lost it…. or all 7 immediately after it.

          • Sparks

            Great example. To me, as bad as the O was (and it was atrocious), that loss was as much on ST’s and the poor run defense. How you give up 117 rush yards to Orleans Darkwa is beyond me. Darkwa has only had 1 other 100 yard game in his 4 year career, the last game of last season against the injury riddled Washington football club.

          • cjfarls

            Everytime one unit screwed up, it seemed like the other ones wanted to chip and say “its not your fault”.
            That said, I put the NYG game squarely on TS. Despite relatively decent protection (at least comparatively to earlier games), he was inaccurate and making bad reads all game. It was his worst game last year IMO, and his unforced errors pretty much drained the will of the rest of the team.

          • Sparks

            I see what you’re saying and TS’s 2 INT’s were huge in that game. The pick 6 with a minute left in the first half was awful. He did still go 29-50, 376 yds and a TD as well. It wasn’t TS’s fault that Kid McManus missed a 35 yrd FG when the score was 3-0 NYG or had another FG blocked. The 35 yarder to me was just as bad as anything TS did. Had he made it, we are in a tie ball game. Instead, he missed, NYG drives for a TD and we’re in a 10-0 hole that we had no realistic chance of climbing out of. It wasn’t TS’s fault that DT fumbles on a 6 yrd catch on a 4th and 5 play on the first play of the 4th quarter, down 20-3. It wasn’t TS’s fault that on 4th and goal from the 1 with 8:30 left in the game down 20-3, that CJ fails to punch it in. On that drive, Denver started on their own 15, thanks to another MacKenzie muffed punt that he luckily recovered, and TS went 6-10 for 84 yards (all the yards on that drive) while overcoming a sack and a false start along the way.

            TS is certainly in the crosshairs for blame for that loss, but he isn’t the only culprit. The whole team did their share to let that one go.

            https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201710150den.htm

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            I went to that game…thinking, oh, this will be an easy win. I think they were winless. Had no receivers (at all) and a fourth string RB. Our D plated badly, for sure. But, I saw the line giving TS plenty of time and he still got happy feet and made some terrible throws.

        • Nick

          So difficult to the point that there’s a ton of luck involved.

  • Yahmule

    Bronco fans can homer it up fantasy football leagues this year to their heart’s content. Here are the ADP results from 130+ NFFC Draft Champion leagues. Some of these guys began drafting leagues right after the Super Bowl. First Bronco doesn’t show up until the middle of round four in a 12 team league.

    Average Draft Position
    1 Gurley, Todd LA RB
    2 Bell, Le’Veon PIT RB
    3 Johnson, David ARZ RB
    4 Elliott, Ezekiel DAL RB
    5 Kamara, Alvin NO RB
    6 Brown, Antonio PIT WR
    7 Barkley, Saquon NYG RB
    8 Hopkins, DeAndre HOU WR
    9 Hunt, Kareem KC RB
    10 Beckham, Odell NYG
    11 Fournette, Leonard JAX RB
    12 Cook, Dalvin MIN RB
    13 Gordon, Melvin LAC RB
    14 Jones, Julio ATL WR
    15 Thomas, Michael NO WR
    16 McCaffrey, Christian CAR RB
    17 Allen, Keenan LAC WR
    18 Adams, Davante GB WR
    19 Green, A.J. CIN WR
    20 Ingram, Mark NO RB
    21 Evans, Mike TB WR
    22 McCoy, LeSean BUF RB
    23 Freeman, Devonta ATL RB
    25 Kelce, Travis KC TE
    26 Gronkowski, Rob NE TE
    27 Hill, Tyreek KC WR
    28 Mixon, Joe CIN RB
    29 Cooks, Brandin LA WR
    30 Hilton, T.Y. IND WR
    31 Henry, Derrick TEN RB
    32 McKinnon, Jerick SF RB
    33 Rodgers, Aaron GB QB
    34 Landry, Jarvis CLE WR
    35 Cooper, Amari OAK WR
    36 Howard, Jordan CHI RB
    37 Baldwin, Doug SEA WR
    38 Drake, Kenyan MIA RB
    39 Fitzgerald, Larry ARZ WR
    40 Ertz, Zach PHI TE
    41 Diggs, Stefon MIN WR
    42 Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR
    43 Smith-Schuster, JuJu PIT WR
    44 Robinson, Allen CHI WR
    45 Tate, Golden DET WR
    46 Gordon, Josh CLE WR
    47 Engram, Evan NYG TE
    48 Jeffery, Alshon PHI WR
    49 Ajayi, Jay PHI RB
    50 Wilson, Russell SEA QB
    51 Penny, Rashaad SEA RB
    52 Watson, Deshaun HOU QB
    53 Guice, Derrius WAS RB
    54 Edelman, Julian NE WR
    55 Graham, Jimmy GB TE
    56 Brady, Tom NE QB
    57 Jones, Marvin DET WR
    58 Henry, Hunter LAC TE
    59 Lewis, Dion TEN RB
    60 Michel, Sony NE RB
    61 Jones, Ronald TB RB
    62 Wentz, Carson PHI QB
    63 Collins, Alex BAL RB
    64 Woods, Robert LA WR
    65 Funchess, Devin CAR WR
    66 Olsen, Greg CAR TE
    67 Hyde, Carlos CLE RB
    68 Watkins, Sammy KC WR
    69 Cohen, Tarik CHI RB
    70 Kupp, Cooper LA WR
    71 Cousins, Kirk MIN QB
    72 Crabtree, Michael BAL WR
    73 Coleman, Tevin ATL RB
    74 Newton, Cam CAR QB
    75 Freeman, Royce DEN RB
    76 Johnson, Duke CLE RB
    77 Brees, Drew NO QB
    78 Garcon, Pierre SF WR
    79 Bryant, Dez FA WR
    80 Thompson, Chris WAS RB
    81 Stafford, Matthew DET QB
    82 Chubb, Nick CLE RB
    83 Fuller, Will HOU WR
    84 Roethlisberger, Ben PIT
    85 Crowder, Jamison WAS
    86 Crowell, Isaiah NYJ RB
    87 Garoppolo, Jimmy SF QB
    88 Davis, Corey TEN WR
    89 Johnson, Kerryon DET RB
    90 Agholor, Nelson PHI WR
    91 Walker, Delanie TEN TE
    92 Rivers, Philip LAC QB
    93 Nelson, Jordy OAK
    94 Miller, Lamar HOU
    95 Ryan, Matt ATL QB
    96 Goff, Jared LA QB
    97 Jones, Aaron GB RB
    98 Goodwin, Marquise SF WR
    99 Lynch, Marshawn OAK RB
    100 Parker, DeVante MIA WR

    • Tim

      Top 6 is really nice this year. I haven’t begun looking into FF but draft prep is my favorite part

      • Yahmule

        I won’t begin studying seriously until late July. Funny to see how running backs are kings again after a couple years with more diversity at the top.

        Based on these numbers, I will have Garoppolo as my QB1 on most teams.

        I might send this to He-Man and let him know he’s coming off the board behind the likes of Nelson Agholar. ;~)

        Check out this asshole run:

        25 Kelce, Travis
        26 Gronkowski, Rob
        27 Hill, Tyreek
        28 Mixon, Joe

        • Tim

          No kidding, I don’t want any of those 4. Mostly because I don’t value TE’s that high and I don’t want to cheer for any of them. Nor do I trust a Bengals RB under Lewis

          • Yahmule

            He is a running back killer, isn’t he?

          • Tim

            Him and BB. Both love their running back committees

        • The 5th Amigo

          The douche twins and the lady punchers.

          • Yahmule

            After Gronkowski’s remorseless cheap shot on Tre’Davious White last season, he’s on my short list of guys who I don’t give the slightest fuck what happens to them.

  • Nick

    How many of the Bowlen children are looking at this and thinking, “Boy, over $200 million in straight cash (homey) sounds pretty good…”.

    https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/996747013810253824

    • T. Jensen

      My uncles owned a RV dealership. As they got older, there was a ton of conflict over who would take over (we’re a big family between them there are around 35 children). Best thing that happened to them was to sell the dealership. They continued working there and had enough cash to send my cousins to school. I have like 10 dentist/doctor cousins now. A few of my cousins stayed in the RV business as well.

      I would be sad to see it leave the Bowlen family but I’m not sure that his kids would run it as well as he did anyway.

      • John

        I just don’t want Joe cheapskate Ellis to run it. He is the idiot who hired McDaniels because he didn’t have enough power when Shanahan was coach.

        • T. Jensen

          I think Ellis learned a lot from his mistake. I don’t think he’s been that bad since and I don’t think he has the guts to fire Elway, which I consider a good thing.

    • Yahmule

      All of them.

    • gobroncos

      How many kids does Bowlen have? Ten?

      • Nick

        Seven, but John Bowlen’s percentage was 30%, so 10% each at least. I tried to cover how John’s amount has been redistributed by saying “over $200 million”.

  • RSH
    • pubkeeper

      I like the Schiano proposal, making it basically a 4th and 15. You can either punt or go for it.

  • RSH
  • JMac
  • JMac

    OT: For anyone who’s wondering about the Laurel/Yanni stupid thing that’s going on, this morning all I could hear was Yanni (Iphone, bluetooth in-ear Bose headphones). This afternoon I tried again on my laptop with a Jabra Pro headset and it’s definitely Laurel.

    My guess – it’s a low quality recording, and the bass level that you hear through whatever you are listening too massively impacts what your brain can discern:

    https://twitter.com/CloeCouture/status/996218489831473152

    • JMac

      My coworker and I were just talking about how this epitomizes the “I’m right and you are wrong. Completely wrong. There is no way you could be right at all” attitude we are seeing in society.

      There is an assumption that everybody’s experience is the same, and no one seems to contemplate that the same information experienced slightly differently could be processed to come to a different outcome. Both are valid – but the concept that there can be more than one valid argument is difficult in our society.

      /getsoffsoapboxagain

      • T. Jensen

        The dress was gold

        • TiredOfWinning

          BLUE!

          • T. Jensen

            I expected you to say something stupid like that. Only a moron would see that the dress is Yanni

      • Sparks

        That said, it clearly says Laurel and I’ll not accept any responses to the contrary.

        • Drewredux

          My wife says Yanny.

          WTF? Clearly Laurel.

    • Hank Mardukis

      I hear yanny.

    • Orange_n_Blue_Kicks

      I’m hearing, “Laurel,” sure as Captain Picard shouting out, “There…are…four…lights!”

      • FarAwayBroncoFan

        Look again, don’t you see five lights? Ha ha.

        That’s got to be one of my favorite episodes. There’s no breaking Picard.

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    • Andrew

      Same thing for me heard yanny last night on my wife’s phone and laurel today on a work computer.

    • Jeremy

      I can hear both. If I say in my head one of the words while listening to it it becomes clear. Anyone else like this?

      • JMac

        Tried that, didn’t work on the two set of headphones I had. A coworker said she could hear both, I borrowed her headphones and absolutely could!

      • gnasses

        Yep.

    • gobroncos

      My wife and are arguing right now. I hear Laurel. She hears Yanny. This is freaking me out .

      • gobroncos

        I tried with Bose over ear noise cancelling headphones, my Google pixel 2xl, my wife’s iPhone and with iPhone earbuds. All I hear is Laurel. My wife only hears Yanny.

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  • bradley

    Xxx