• VonSwenson

    According to pro-football-reference.com, Devontae Booker “has recovered from a hairline fracture in his right wrist and is expected to suit up for Sunday’s game against the Bills.”

    • Nick

      When has PFR transformed into reporting insider info?

      • Rileyrott

        Now, Nick??

      • Jeremy

        It’s a pretty strange situation. He isn’t on the injury report, which should suggest he is 100% healthy, but now the coaches are saying he might not be in game shape or he might not play because of ST responsibilities (after touting him all summer).

        Henderson hasn’t taken any offensive snaps, and has only taken a small handful of ST snaps. If they can do without his ST snaps, it seems Booker should be in fine shape to play 10ish offensive snaps over the course of 3 hours.

        It may come down to whether Fowler can go or not, since he is a big ST guy.

        • ohiobronco

          Doesn’t seem too strange that a young player may need a couple weeks of practice after being out 6-7 weeks.

        • pubkeeper

          who do you take those snaps away from?

          • Jeremy

            CJ, who is on pace for 360 caries right now. Only 2 Running backs have gone over 350 carries in the past 7 years, and only 4 have gone over 300 carries in the past 3 years.

            CJ isn’t exactly known for his durability, so I think trying to keep him under 15/game would be wise.

          • PiperAR

            Sounds like the “hot back” vs “fresh legs” decision. I’d like to see a fresh back go into the game in the 4th quarter. Maybe an alternative to limiting touches per game would be a rotation like baseball pitching.

        • PiperAR

          If they don’t trust the rookie in live games yet, they could have had six weeks of Ridley by PUPing Booker. Maybe he’s last year’s Hillman. Keeping him seemed like a good idea on paper but in reality the team isn’t missing anything.

  • InSiemianWeTrust
    • iowabronco

      Love his approach, humility, and focus. These are the types of stories that make being a sports fan enoyable, and that much tastier when he’s on “your” team.

    • Paco Alonzo

      Great find thank you.

    • GrizzlyB

      Shockingly, DMac insinuated that the quote from his mom about being the lowest-paid starting QB means that he’s going to rake us over the coals next season. We need to find a QBotF, stat!

      • InSiemianWeTrust

        If Trevor is injured next week, and doesn’t play next year, he’ll already get 17M on the free market.

        Trevor’s also been injured every year. There are incentives on both sides to get a deal done. I don’t think Elway considers an extension unless TS puts up another monster 8 games. The media folk who are pushing for an extension now are reactionary.

  • Nick

    I’m not sure if this has been discussed before, but 538 argues that coaches should go for 2 when down by 4 or 8.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dick-vermeil-retired-a-decade-ago-will-you-please-stop-using-his-damn-2-point-conversion-chart/

    I can buy the math behind it, but I don’t know when we’ll have a coach brave enough to actually try it.

    • Brian

      Good column. Sf blew an obvious one when, iirc, they cut lead from 15 to 9 vs. lar.

    • Jeremy

      One thing I’ve never seen before, but would love to, is an analytics piece looking for and trying to quantify how these decisions affect “momentum.” There is the commonly cited example of If you are down 15, you should go for 2 on the first TD rather than the second, so if you miss you can adjust your game plan.

      I totally get the logic, if you assume the odds to make the 2-point conversion are the same, and that choosing to go for it and converting or missing the conversion has no effect on the play of you or your opponents. I think it’s very possible that the odds of conversion are better after the 2nd TD, when all the “momentum” is on your side. It also might be possible that going for 2 on the First TD has an invigorating effect on your team. Or it could be that the demoralizing effect if you miss it on the first TD is so great that you should wait until the 2nd TD.

      Sometimes, I’m sure it doesn’t matter because there may be so little time left that a missed 2 point conversion (regardless of when it happens) completely dooms the team’s chances.

      All things that I’d love to see dug into deeper because I think they could either justify the coach’s decision making or (more likely) provide a further evidence that coaches are making the wrong decisions.

    • Brian

      I also wonder how wholesale adoption of the 538 chart would, in turn, affect the chart. Win probabilities would certainly change for certain point margins. Would their be a Nash equilibrium? Would the pendulum swing back to more 1 point tries?

      • GrizzlyB

        Yeah, I don’t think it’s mentioned enough that the current “go for 2”, “go for it on 4th down”, etc., analytics numbers are based on teams doing those things when they feel strongly about the result (either they think they can get it, or it’s a do-or-die situation). I doubt if as high a percentage of 2-point conversions are made in the 1st quarter as are in late game-tying situations.

    • PiperAR

      I have a hard time remembering when to split 6s and when to double down on soft hands.

  • Nick
    • Kyle Milligan

      Many would say the same about trump.

      Is anyone still thinking this Russia investigation is going to end without charges?

    • RSH
      • Alaskan

        I’d pay to watch that.

      • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

        These guys need to cut the shit, and just f#ck already. Their sexual tension is so thick, you could cut it with a knife!

    • Yahmule

      Dotard’s mother. Currently residing in Hell with his dad.

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbMi4SGWIAAqORo.jpg

      • Alaskan

        I hope they have a room near Antonin Scalia’s.

        • Yahmule

          The Ray Cohn suite.

      • i see where he got his hair.

    • Forrest Trump

      This flag stuff been going on since dirt, but Steven Miller has managed to supercharge it with Donnie’s penchant for monstrous hypocrisy. I wish it could be funny. #BADSATIRE

    • Yahmule

      Goodell’s feeble reply. It will be interesting to see how many more players are kneeling tomorrow.

      September 23, 2017

    • DCJ1

      So how close to a First Ammendment violation is it to have the President, an elected official of the government, advocate firing people for exercising their right to free speech? It seems to me that there is a fine line that has been crossed if any player has their livelihood disrupted by what could be interpreted as a government wish. Sort of along the same lines of “Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?” line that got a previous despot in some trouble.

      • Forrest Trump

        Lock him up, Lock him up, Lock him up!

      • He isn’t passing any legislation or directing the justice department to do anything. IMO, this falls under Trump using his “bully pulpit” to push his beliefs – not all that different than what other presidents do (except he has some pretty heinous beliefs).

        • PiperAR

          Fair point.

      • Alaskan

        The government cannot punish these players for advocacy.
        But the Prez is free to say whatever ridiculous stuff he wants to say in response.

      • gnasses

        Honestly, there is nothing legally wrong with firing people for exercising their first amendment rights. The government cannot punish them, but employers can and do all the time. If the NFL players did not have a union, I am sure that exact scenario would have already played out.

    • Nick
  • Yahmule

    Sammy “The Bull” Gravano, who spent five years in prison for committing 19 murders, but seventeen years for getting caught with a bunch of Ecstasy (that’s proportional, right?) has been released again.

  • Royalwithcheese
    • Yahmule

      Arguably their two best players can’t stay on the field.

      • Royalwithcheese

        It’s always something with the Chargers. First Lamp, now Verrett.

        • RSH

          It’s also always something with Verrett.

      • GrizzlyB

        I honestly don’t know who you’re referring to.

        • Royalwithcheese

          Vervet and Allen, I’m guessing.

        • Yahmule

          Verrett and Allen are/were both quality players before their troubles.

          • GrizzlyB

            Oh, right. I guess I was just struggling to visualize a list of the Chargers’ best players to choose from.

          • Yahmule

            I hate when I’m Literal Yahmule.

  • Yahmule

    Great picture.

    September 23, 2017

  • Hank Mardukis
    • Royalwithcheese

      WTF

    • Nick

      OK Bills fans, your turn to raise the pot tomorrow.

      • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

        I was thinking the same thing. It will be really difficult to one up “the butt hole shot”.

    • Forrest Trump

      That doesn’t seen like something you just up and do. That is a trick made of blood, sweat and really bad hangovers.

  • GrizzlyB
    • PiperAR

      No. Just no.

      • RyanHennigan

        I have to agree with this. After what I saw and seeing plenty of those in my life, I can not condone this.

  • GrizzlyB
    • Jeremy

      Peyton would make a hell of a boss.

  • Forrest Trump

    I stumbled across a mock draft, which taught me that NFLDraftscout at CBS has been mothballed, which isn’t important either, but it got me to thinking: What positions would Denver prioritize in the ’18 draft if nothing changes? This is what I came up with:

    OT (although I think if Watson keeps his health, he’ll play into playing better.)
    CB
    WR
    OG
    Interior DL
    EDGE, EDGE, always EDGE

    Anybody else put any thought into this yet?

    • PiperAR

      Best player (at position of need or position of importance) for the first time in several years. 🙂

      • Forrest Trump

        It is sort of shaping up like that, which is good.

        DT’s age concerns me some, and we could be down 2 CBs relatively soon, so I think those two positions might deserve slight premium need status.

        • PiperAR

          If they commit to the QB that spreads the ball around and McC sticks around for a while, too talent at WR and TE becomes less important while depth becomes more important.

          Having a strong secondary allows the front seven to play aggressive with less risk of getting burned on the back end.

          • Forrest Trump

            Concur on point two. A defense is only as good as its worst CB.

            I think teams will always need a scheme bender outside or at TE. Denver maybe ought to start peeking at those types. DT might show up old any year now.

          • Yahmule

            The game has changed. The 85 Bears defense, was long hailed as the best ever. Many fans can still name their front seven and safeties, but far fewer can come up with the names of the starting CB’s.

          • Forrest Trump

            It is crazy these days how much damage a single bad CB can cause.

          • Yahmule

            When I see these teams with their multitudes of unskilled defensive backs, I say, “How does it feel to want?”

          • Forrest Trump

            We are so freakin’ fortunate.

          • Yahmule

            Watch them go corner in round one next year to rub it in.

          • Royalwithcheese

            Jimmy Graham will be a FA…

          • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

            Either he has never been the same since Kam Chancellor rung his bell, or Darrell Bevell could be the worst offensive coordinator ever. Somewhere in the middle lies the truth.

          • PiperAR

            A minor quibble. Yes a weak link can be exploited. But it takes a QB good enough to exploit the weak link and enough time to do it. I don’t think of the Giants secondary as special but their pass rush punked Brady twice.

            I’m not convinced that simply making the #3 CB the first read is a consistent winning strategy.

          • Forrest Trump

            You can certainly make it work without a stud in either group, but it sure makes it easier to create space for everybody else when the D has to deal with a big dynamic guy.

        • Yahmule

          Equanimeous St. Brown is an intriguing prospect. Size, speed, hands, smarts. Stage dad is a bit of a concern.

          https://youtu.be/-7pd10RRhoM

    • Royalwithcheese

      My top three as of now would be OT, NT and ILB.

      • PiperAR

        I like 3-down linebackers but it sure seems like Elway isn’t that into them. The tag team of Davis and Nelson (Young Stallions? Killer B’s?) seems to work but remains to be seen if the duo returns next year.

        • RSH

          But Davis and Nelson are both unrestricted free agents after this season. As we know, Elway has shown that he is willing to let plenty of talented players leave in free agency.

        • Royalwithcheese

          I just do not get the affinity for Davis.

        • gnasses

          “Together, we are Wyld Stallyns!”

    • Jeremy

      I’ll do a quick run through the roster while I wait for dinner to finish cooking.
      QB: Probably not, but maybe we’ll want some backup.
      RB: Will depend on how Booker and Henderson look. Could very quickly become a position of significant need if Charles retires/leaves or the youngins don’t impress or CJ has more injury troubles
      WR: DT and Sanders will both be over 30. Latimer is an URFA, and Fowler is an RFA (meaning he’ll be an URFA after 2018). Hard to know how Henderson will be moving forward.
      TE: Virgil Green will be 30 and is an URFA. Heurman and Derby are both URFAs after next. Hard to know what we have in Butt.
      OT: Seems pretty likely we’ll want to upgrade RT and swing tackle through free agency and the draft
      OG/C: Barbre is a URFA and will be 34. Billy Turner is also a URFA. Seems depth or a possible upgrade could be in the works.
      DT: Winn and Crick are free agents and their careers may be over. Domata Peko will be 33, Wolfe will be 28. Depth I think is a must at this position with how thin we already are.
      OLB: Shaq will be a RFA this year, and Shane Ray will be an URFA after next. As Forest Trump said, Always edge.
      ILB: Davis and Nelson are both URFAs. If we keep one or not determines how significant this need is.
      CB: Talib will be 32. Bradley will be on his 5th year in 2018. Doss will also be a URFA after 2018, so there could be need for depth
      S: No pending free agents for several years and they seem high on everyone, but Stewart will be 30. Also, with how frequently we are using 3 safeties on the field, a viable 5th doesn’t seem like a horrible idea. Plus every safety Elway touches seems to turn to gold, so why not keep rolling with it?

      Going through the list, hard to rule many out at this point, or let any rise to the top.

  • Yahmule

    Safe to say, the Broncos will let this disgusting insult to one of their players go unremarked.

    September 23, 2017

    September 23, 2017

    • Hank Mardukis

      Elway is a Trump supporter isn’t he? Plus, the Broncos don’t want to rock the boat in any way.

      Can’t piss off white fans defending the rights of a black employee.

      • Nick

        Elway is definitely a Republican. Whether or not he’s as gungho about Trump specifically as, say, Bill Belichick is less certain. Also, Joe Ellis is part of the Bush family, a Republican institution that’s been Trump-skeptic.

        • Hank Mardukis

          Fair enough, but politics generally devolve into tribalism push come to shove. And my second point stands especially when money talks.

        • Yahmule

          Safe to say this is the number one topic of discussion in 32 locker rooms this weekend. Probably more so in Denver where Marshall’s protest achieved national attention and he is extremely popular. Do the Broncos support Marshall, even if only in consideration to the feelings of his predominately black teammates? Will that risk alienating the team’s Trump supporters? Example nine million and six of how the Ku Klux Klown poisons everything he touches.

          • gobroncos

            Fuck Trump and his unpatriotic views. He’s the least American among us.

    • Hank Mardukis

      I might have to buy myself a Brandon Marshall shirsey in support.

    • gnasses

      Shaun King reported 15 new NFL players contacted him to let him know they would be sitting/kneeling/raising fist in response to Trump’s comments. A couple hours later it was 20, now over 35 newly committed players. I assume there are plenty more who will also protest in solidarity and some will be Broncos.

    • gobroncos

      If I was a player I’d be protesting and sitting with my fellow athletes.

      • Yahmule

        Bruce Maxwell has one year of MLB service and a lot to lose by making this protest.

        September 24, 2017

  • Hank Mardukis

    Watching the USC-Cal game and someone in the stands is waving a Sam Darnold New York Jets jersey.

    • Nick

      Darnold’s been really uneven today.

  • Orange_n_Blue_Kicks

    Coming off two great wins, I think we are all feeling pretty optimistic about our team. That being said, I’m thinking this is going to be a very close, hard-fought game against the Bills. Historically, the Broncos have often found it challenging to win away games with teams that have greater defensive strength versus offense offensive strength. (i.e., recently when playing away Rams or Titans games)

    As far as I’ve read, it’s been pretty much radio silence from the Bills. They may be looking to gain some respect by knocking off the up-and-coming Broncos. I actually have had greater uncertainty about a Bills away win versus a Cowboys home win. Here’s hoping & rooting for the Broncos to come away with a victory this coming Sunday.

    • Andrew

      I’m with you I’ve just been expecting a tough game all week and it’s on the road a week before a really important division game.

    • DragonPie

      Just road games are harder.

  • RSH
  • Nick
    • gobroncos

      Thank goodness!