• Nick

    I’m cancelling today’s Ring of Fame article due to the overwhelming number of No votes against DeMarcus Ware. Had that gone the other way, I had queued up an article for Neil Smith, whose Broncos tenure I think is comparable to Ware’s.

    • Jeremy

      I liked that guy. I remember reading the kids book he wrote when I was a young fan, “Yes I Can”

      But yeah, hard to justify him in the ROF

    • The 5th Amigo

      I didn’t vote for Ware into the ring but I would vote for Neil Smith due to the fact that it would enrage Chiefs fans

      • PiperAR

        Seems like Neil Smith owns a BBQ joint in the KC area. I’m guessing nothing about his Bronco era accomplishments are on display there.

        • Kyle Milligan

          But dont his only hardware have horsies on them?

    • gobroncos

      Did he retire a Bronco? Or retire a chief?

      • Jeremy

        A charger

      • PiperAR

        Was a Charger in 2000 but I don’t know if he did or didn’t officially retire as a Chief.

  • Nick
    • Carsonic

      They should play “Don’t Stop Believin'” when he comes into the first team meeting. Because he’s the very definition of a journeyman. (Get it?!?! Journey-man?!?!? HAHAHAHAHAHAsorry.)

      • RSH
        • Carsonic

          Then at the end of the year, they’ll play this.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LatorN4P9aA

          • Yahmule

            I remember giving my Journey fan friends tons of shit for this video.

          • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

            Music Videos really screwed Steve Perry.

          • Yahmule

            He should really look into isometrics.

          • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

            I wonder how many people were like “that’s the lead singer of Journey?!” Looks like Whitesnake is my new favorite band.

          • Carsonic

            My wife’s impersonation of him is simply turning profile and using her forefinger and thumb to indicate the size of his nose. Nowadays he looks like the lovechild of Buddy Hackett and Sid Caesar.

          • drewthorn

            They say Billy Squire was destroyed by his “Rock me Tonight” video.

            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fR0j7sModCI

            We love our rock icons choked out on their own vomit just fine. Trying to out Flashdance Jennifer Beals, not so much.

            The funny thing about this is that Billy Squire was my first real concert– I saw him and the brand new Def Leppard at McNichols– and at 14, I concluded that he seemed surprisingly gay. It took the rest of the world 5 more years to stumble across this potentiality, apparently.

            I have abysmal gaydar, too. Squire, at a minimum, was always fiercely metrosexual.

            Anyway, Squire retired to the New York art scene and a lot of philanthropy…married to the same woman all the while.

          • drewthorn

            This article, however, make a good case that Squire just flamed out eventually.

            http://ultimateclassicrock.com/billy-squier-rock-me-tonite-video/

          • Yahmule

            (stroke, stroke, stroke, stroke, stroke, stroke, stroke)

          • Yahmule

            I just made myself watch it again. Perry’s silent movie level over emoting, Neal Schon and his big Adam Corolla face lip syncing to possibly a different song, the woman (out for a stroll at the wharf) in her 80’s hair and 80’s jacket striding quickly like she’s already embarrassed for all of them.

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            Video killed the Radio Star.

          • As someone who is a Journey fan, I have no problem with people poking fun at their videos… but they really need to spend more time making fun of THIS.

            https://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/1181242123194.jpg

            http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/journeyband/story02.png

          • codygras

            Oddly, I believe Elway has gone on record saying this is his favorite song.

        • drewthorn

          This gives me a good reason to share a live performance that I find captivating lately:

          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3qlEjhpoGW4

          I got a thing against bands that struggle live. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a song played this flawlessly live. It’s amazing how many really talented mucisians came together in one band. Too bad they couldn’t get along a little better.

          • Russ

            You’re right, that is studio tight. I’ve always loved the banter between Felder and Walsh on the outro to this song. I guess if you try to do that live, though, you can’t really stray from the studio script too much or it starts getting messy quick. That said, I’ve always preferred bands that more or less try to replicate their studio sound, down to the note choices on solos. Steely Dan is another band that is almost as tight live as their studio work, which is saying a lot as they are known for being perhaps the best studio band of all time.

          • drewthorn

            I’m amazed my the number of bands that struggle vocally outside the studio. In fact, it seems more common than not.

            One example is Bruce Springsteen. He is considered one of the great live acts of all time, yet, imo, he really struggles to capture the vocal essence of his songs live.

          • PiperAR

            I have long wondered why people pay good money for a concert ticket, only to get to shitfaced to experience the show. Maybe this has something to do with it.

          • Nick

            I ask this question every time I go to a Pearl Jam show in which I do not have Ten Club tickets.

          • drewthorn

            I had myself a pretty impressive drinking problem yet I very rarely fucked up a good football game by getting hammered. The one exception was the Monday Night game against the Shanny led Raiders where Oakland overcame a 27 (?) point deficit to win.

          • Yahmule

            I got so drunk during the Niner Super Bowl, near the end I thought they might stop it like a boxing match.

      • PiperAR

        I’m known around the league as a journeyman
        I meet my new team playing Journey, man
        #TerribleRaps

    • T. Jensen

      seems like a strange move to me, of course everything about Fitzpatrick has always seemed strange to me.

      • ohiobronco

        I does seem strange because Winston has been durable. Maybe they see themselves as legitimate playoff contenders and think Fitzi could get them through a couple games without imploding.

      • drewthorn

        Mama always said that Ryan Fitzpatrick is like a box of chocolate…

      • PiperAR

        Why? It worked nicely for late career Kyle Orton.

    • JMac

      Any information on the terms?

    • PiperAR

      Somewhere in the world there is a Patrick Fitzryan.

      • Yahmule

        Aye, there is and a fine lad. I would advise ye to steer clear of that Pat McGroin, though. And don’t listen his tales about comin’ thro’ the rye. The story doesn’t go that way.

  • RSH
    • bradley

      Joseph’s feel for the two is just what you’d think. He says Siemian plays “a game of patience, it’s a game of confidence. He is in control. … He’s a smart guy, he throws the ball where it should go most of the time, he’s got a high football IQ.” And on Lynch, Joseph says, “The physical ability is there. He’s a first-round pick, great height, great arm talent, great mobility.”

      • PiperAR

        “A draft pick is a derivative asset that allows a team to pick one player. After the draft pick is used, IT HAS NO FURTHER VALUE.” – Ted Bartlett

        Montee Ball was not more valuable than CJ Anderson because of his draft slot. Cody Latamire is not more valuable than Jordan Taylor because of his draft slot. Paxton Lynch is not more valuable than Trevor Siemian because of his draft slot. All are players under contract for the Broncos and the only thing that matters now and in the future is performance and results.

        • Jeremy

          It has some value in predicting success though.

          Without knowing anything else, you would expect first round picks to be more successful than 7th round picks.

        • Yahmule

          I took first round pick in this context to be more descriptive than anything else. He’s a first round, which implicitly acknowledges that the team scouted him closely and liked what they saw.

        • LH Almeida

          The round itself doesn’t mean a thing. But it’s a known fact that 1st rounders have higher expectations yet higher lenience.

    • Jeremy

      I like the idea of an objective grading system being used as a factor in evaluations.

      • It works for us! It helps us a lot by holding them accountable for when they aren’t trying in practice. We can record it and show them that we see when they don’t uphold our standards.

        • bradley

          Don’t all teams do this?

          • Good question.

            No. Some teams don’t even have grade sheets. Watch the film, get out.

          • bradley

            But coaches must give a player hell for screwing up and they must keep track of screwups somehow.

          • Some do, some don’t.

            It really depends on what kind of coordinator they have. Some coordinators, like our OC, have the assistants print out grade sheets and watch the film on their own then hand it in when they leave. Others, like Kliff Klingsbury over at Texas Tech, watch film with his staff after practice and then they leave when they are done. Other coaches just like to have a general sheet they leave on the table so players can go to their office and refer to it.

            If position coaches could have it their way, they would watch enough film to get a general idea of what happened at pracyice and then they would leave.

        • PiperAR

          A demerit system.

    • We had one of those for our spring training. It’s good for looking at production in practice. As long as categories have different point values, you can post it up in the locker room and the players understand what you consider the most important on your team.

      If they’re going to do it for every drill, the coaches are going to have to spend a lot of extra time tallying everything up. If they’re going to have their assistants take care of it, none of their categories can be subjective. Otherwise, you get a tally that means one thing to the assistant but may not be what the coach is looking for.

      I’d argue that they need three categories specifically: mental error, critical error, and loafs. Mental Error being a mistake that doesn’t affect the outcome of the play and Critical Error being a mistake that affects the outcome of the play. Loafs being plays where they aren’t trying hard. That way you can calculate the evaluation of practice and weight it into the scores.

      I’d argue that they have to be careful what they make a category and what they don’t. If they use “Great Play” or “Hustle” as categories, then you are communicating to the players that they will be rewarded for things they should be doing already. The expectations are the rules that must be followed, they should only factor it when it is not being followed.

      • drewthorn

        I recall hitting my dad up about what I considered a great inequity in my life. I’d just rode home on the bus on report card day, and a lot of kids were tallying up their take in cash for their As and Bs. Despite my solid report card, my cash poor existence hadn’t changed whatsoever. I took it up with him. It ended up being a pretty short conversation.

        “Why would I pay you for something you are expected to to do?” was the start and end of it.

        • Yahmule

          My parents paid for straight A’s. My sister cashed several times. My brother and I never came close.

          • drewthorn

            I never got a dime for academics or chores. I did, however, get a parental free ride to the college of my choice, so I made out pretty well in the whole scheme of things.

  • Carsonic
    • Yahmule

      That’s back when we prioritized hunkiness in quarterbacks. Now it’s freakish height.

      • RSH

        And guys that look like McLovin’ and Guy Faux.

    • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

      Back when wives REALLY cared about football.

    • Prater2Beadles4Six
      • Carsonic

        “…he was kind enough to sign the ball for Brustman after he realized what he’d done.” Hm. I wonder if it was the left or the right one.

        • Yahmule

          Hopefully the less swollen one.

      • Yahmule

        Female groins have always been completely safe around him.

      • Kyle Milligan

        In his defense, if a ball is headed towards the receiver’s groin I’d call it one of his better passes.

  • The Color Orange
  • Royalwithcheese
    • Yahmule

      I’ll bet Deebo makes the Hall of Fame over more deserving defenders. He seems like the type of player Peter King will champion – he did have a terrific five year peak – and there are so few Steelers enshrined. :~/

    • RyanHennigan

      That is a glute workout.

  • PiperAR

    Since technically D Ware was UFA and signed with Dallas, is a comp pick in play? I’m guessing token pre retirement contracts are excluded. Or the dollar value is far too low to matter.

  • LH Almeida

    Hey there. Another post I wrote that should interest you all. This is my very very very early 53-men roster prediction:

    http://www.milehighbrasil.com/2017/05/projecao-do-roster-de-53/

    Google Translator is your friend, although I didn’t wrote that much.

    • Jeremy

      Nice piece. I’m curious, what were the good things you saw from McGovern last year (assuming Google translate got it right)

      • LH Almeida

        Yes, GT got it right. In order to answer your question, I got back to last year’s games and re-watched all snaps that McGovern took in the first and last game of the preseason (in the last game, he played the entirety of it).

        First, the negatives: I saw two or three pancakes suffered, and also some problems at getting out of the snap. He got a little late sometimes. Also, he seemed indecisive at times, without knowing who to block. And one of Lynch’s sacks in the last game of the preseason came because he and the center weren’t on the same page, and he released his guy to the center, who didn’t get it, and this guy had a freeway to Lynch.

        That said, he has a powerful first step, mainly when he’s going forward. He was also able to eat some double blocks without being pushed too far, and when he’s anchored, it’s hard to push him back. He’s athletic when he has to go to second level, getting the pop and disengaging fast, really getting there quicker than most of the OL playing with him. Another positive is his versatility. He played some tackle at College and is practicing some snaps at Center right now, so he can be an all-position backup at first, with the added value that he is good in the interior.

        He showed a lot of raw power, and I think a Power Scheme is better for him than ZBS was. He is a gym champion, meaning he loves to get bigger and to push people around. The nasty part of the business is something he really likes.

        Kubiak and his crew sucked at developing young guys, and OL was where it was most glaring. It’s ridiculous that McGovern didn’t have a single snap last year, and I’m sure he can battle for a starting spot after Leary is gone.

    • Yahmule

      This is early, especially since there will almost certainly be a roster change or two after some veterans get released, but it looks pretty solid. I’ll be surprised is Schofield gets cut.I also think one of the FA defensive backs will make the roster.

      • LH Almeida

        Thanks. I know it’s early, but it’s offseason, we have nothing better to do, and since we have a deal with our backers of at least 3 posts a week during the offseason, I thought it would be a fun thing to do.

        • Yahmule

          I’m definitely not complaining. I was hoping someone would post one.

    • Nick

      The “winner” (those are sarcastic scare quotes aimed at Google Translate):

      CJ should be the piano loader

      Anyway, great article, you do an excellent job at MHB. A few comments, pre-training camp:
      –Unless Kelly blows coaches away in TC, the ideal scenario as I see it would be to IR him and have Kyle Sloter on the practice squad.

      –I’d be disappointed if there’s not enough room for Derby. That’d be a waste of a 5th round pick.
      –What Latimer has going for him is special teams play. That might be enough to give him an edge over Fowler. Also, if Latimer makes the team he’ll be a UFA next year and help the comp pick ledger if they don’t want to commit to him beyond 2017.
      –Defense appears just as I think it would on first glance. We’re fortunate that the problems are very limited here.

      • LH Almeida

        Thanks a lot, I really mean it. In my first draft of the post, I had Virgil out and Derby in, but that depends on the health status of Butt. If Butt is ready to go in the first or second preseason game, then I can see it happening. With the injuries in Heuerman and Butt, I think it’s safe to have Green, and maybe even Derby as well.

      • LH Almeida

        Also, “Piano Loader” is how we call a Bell Cow RB in Brazil. The guy who carries the biggest load.

        • InSiemianWeTrust

          That’s awesome!