• S Smith

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/05/16/seahawks-reached-out-to-colin-kaepernicks-agent-on-friday/

    Kaep seems to fit well with how the Seahawks work. I wouldn’t be surprised if this works out for him unless they can’t agree to terms on money.

    • Kyle Milligan

      Hmm…
      I’d rather see the guy start. When he’s “on” he is incredibly fun to watch.
      There is no chance he wrangled the starting job from Wilson, is there?

      • ohiobronco

        He’s not going to start, at least not without working back up to that. I think it would be a good situation for him.

      • S Smith

        No way, it takes time to develop chemistry, especially in their offense with their “controlled chaos” that they run. There’s just no way I can see Russell losing the starting job to begin with. If he got hurt and Kaep had to step in and did a better job than Wilson, then maybe.

        • ohiobronco

          Who would have thought after the 2012 season that in 4 years Seattle would have their pick of Kaep or RG3 to back up Wilson.

  • Carsonic

    I appreciated this response to a question about carrying veterans’ pads from Joseph’s post-practice comments on Saturday: “I’m not opposed to that, but we can’t go too far with that. It’s our job as the staff and as coaches to find the guys who can help us and fit our culture and mold them. Make them Broncos. It’s hard to bring guys in and mold guys and bring them in when you’re hazing and going too far. That becomes personal and we don’t want that.”

  • Nick
  • Kyle Milligan

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/fantasy-football-4-qbs-underrated-by-traditional-passer-rating/
    Anyone with a paid PFF subscription care to divulge the other three names?

    • Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins, Cody Kessler, and Tyrod Taylor.

      • Kyle Milligan

        Thank you!
        Taylor and Kessler surprise me (based on no knowledge).

  • Yahmule

    After a couple of decades of shitting all over black people, serial rapist Bill Cosby has determined that racism may be behind the allegations that he drugged and assaulted dozens of women. I guess he has more on his mind than saggy trousers on teenagers these days.

    • Carsonic

      I blame the Spaniards. (Trigger warning: creepy AF in hindsight.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAorIG6MZnc

      • Yahmule

        “It’s true! It’s true!”

    • drewthorn

      I know a person who’s job has exposed her to a lot of celebrities, and she maintains that she has never encountered a bigger and more insufferable prick than Bill Cosby. She is a politico, so that’s a pretty big pool she puts him against. She held this position while he was still a beloved icon rather than a probable racist.

      On the other end of her spectrum are Michael Keaton, Robert Keaton and sober Courtney Love.

      • Yahmule

        Cosby was a high school and college dropout, who had his bachelor’s degree awarded to him from Temple for “life experience” several years after he left school. He was bestowed a master’s degree from the University of Massachusetts for writing a doctoral thesis titled: “An Integration of the Visual Media via Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids into the Elementary School Curriculum as a Teaching Aid and Vehicle to Achieve Increased Learning.” His educational credentials are as valid as Elvis Presley’s black belt.

        Nonetheless, he was invited to give a speech @ Notre Dame in 1990 to black graduates and he publicly ridiculed a football player named Dean Brown for his 2.5 GPA in front of an auditorium full of people. He brought a 22 year old kid to tears on what should have been a happy day in his life. This is typical Bill Cosby behavior. At least it was until he finally became a pariah and people finally stopped giving a shit about what he had to say.

      • Nick

        This might be a good opportunity to share stories of celebrity encounters that we’ve had or people we know have.

        Only two actors I’ve met are Pauly Shore and Matt Damon. Shore was snowboarding at our local ski resort, and he was indistinguishable from any other snowboarder–pretty chill guy. Damon was in town for a prescreening of The Bourne Identity. He was very graceful with the crowd and spent plenty of time signing autographs.

        As far as athletes go the only major one I’ve met is Jake Plummer. Super cool guy, from direct experience I think all the stories of him not being the typical NFL player are dead on accurate.

        My mom was in the same high school as Pete Carroll and Robin Williams. She said that Carroll was definitely one of the coolest kids in school, and as a result always roots for whatever team she’s coaching. (Yes, this means that my own mom was against me in Super Bowl XLVIII. So it goes.) Williams, on the other hand, was very quiet and withdrawn from the crowd. Seemed weird to hear until we sadly learned of the mental problems he was going through.

        A friend of mine has a family ranch that was close to one of the locations that the second City Slickers was filmed at. He said that Billy Crystal was a complete jackass.

        • Yahmule

          I grew up in Burbank about a mile from the studios, so I’ve seen more actors than I could ever remember. I did have some funny celebrity encounters when I managed a sporting goods store in Studio City for a few years back in the late 80’s.

          I had read about Robin Williams struggles many years ago, but his suicide was still a shock to me.

          Billy Crystal is going to get progressively meaner with age like Steve Allen.

        • drewthorn

          I met Bill Clinton a few times. There was maybe a year between our first two encounters, and I got press ganged by a secret service guy to ‘mind’ the back of the line of big donors wauting for a photo op. My pay was my own photo op. Clinton was clearly exhausted and fed up with the day and he gave me kind of a wary eye as I approached. We stood shoulder to shoulderfor a few seconds, and then he started chatting me up and asking follow up questions about our last conversation. He clearly remembered me completely. It was an interesting glimpse into the genius of a master politician.

          • InSiemianWeTrust

            Incredible. I can’t remember what I told friends last week.

      • PiperAR

        I had to reboot at “sober Courtney Love”.

        • drewthorn

          She had some pretty ambitious public goals before she fell off her cliff again. Was very active in trying to help homeless children and start a high school for the performing arts through the LA public schools. She is apparently mensa smart, very articulate, and has the good kind of self confidence. She just has that one ugly ass demon she can’t seem to slay.

          • G Mik

            Greg Hardy might not be a domestic abuser when he’s sober. I’m sure he has done plenty of charitable things and maybe his domestic abuse stems directly from his alcohol abuse. But I won’t split the two apart. He’s despicable and he physically abuses women.

            I know someone (well) that until recently was in Courtney Loves band for the majority of the past 5 years during some of which was sober (purportedly). She is the definition of insufferable. She might be wicked sma’t but she is not on the so-called “other end of the spectrum,” from what I know.

          • drewthorn

            Just passing on somebody else’s opinion. Maybe she was impressed that Love exceeded her expectations.

            You are right about the problem with splitting a person in half. The whole “he/she is so awesome when sober” thing is a barrier to recovery, and it keeps families in denial longer than they need to be. The whole picture is probably the more accurate picture.

      • Carsonic

        Folks I worked with back in my audio engineer days in N. Hollywood.
        Laura Dern: beautiful, gracious and friendly. Tim Curry: Nice, funny, British. Julia Louis-Dreyfus: Funny, but kinda intense. Kept me on my toes. Wayne Brady: Nice, hard worker, but reserved. Sid Caesar: All business, no extra conversation. Carl Reiner: Warm, open and friendly. Rob Schneider: Always on, kind of annoying. Peter Stormare: Creative, smart, intense but easy-going. Jim Belushi: Very Jim Belushi-like. B.J. Thomas (remember his version?): Warm, serious but friendly, astonishing voice. Garry Marshall: Treated everyone like an old friend of the family. Brent Spiner: Easy-going, VERY funny. Stephen Bishop (remember him?): Professional, distant.

        • Yahmule

          I’ll bet Rob Schneider’s movies have the lowest average Rotten Tomatoes score of any actor in the world.

      • Since we’re talking about celebrities and other famous people we’ve met, I’ll share a few of my stories.

        Chatted with Marv Wolfman at the local comic con last year. He’s a down-to-earth guy who clearly likes meeting with his fans. During his Q&A session, he remarked how wonderful the event was ran.

        Helen Slater was there, too. Though I didn’t get to chat with her personally, she went out of her way to say how impressed she was with the event, too. You could sense she was down to earth, too.

        I visited with Butch Johnson and Billy Joe Dupree when they were doing a fundraiser at a ski resort. Dupree was a good guy, but I really hit if off with Johnson, who wanted to know more about my work in journalism. I brought up how I remembered his time working for KUSA and that I remembered him visiting my high school when the football team was playing for the state championship and he never acted any differently when I gave him an obvious fanboy tale. He even shared with me some of his experiences at KUSA.

        Ed McCaffrey came to speak to Raton residents at a fundraiser dinner for the football team there. He’s as down to earth in person as he sounds on the radio and during interviews. He wasn’t supposed to be signing autographs until after the dinner, but a few people approached him when people were trickling in before the event and he went ahead and signed anyway. Didn’t get to sign for everybody because he had to leave, but he made it a point to shake the hands of everyone who had been waiting in line.

        Randy Gradishar was a great person to talk to. He happily signed multiple autographed photos for my family members, even addressed one as “Go Broncos! Go Bucks!” for my mother, who was an Ohio State fan (Gradishar played for the Bucks in college). He loved talking about his days as a football player. I saw him a second time when he visited a nursing home in Raton — I didn’t get a chance to say hi then, but I understood why. He was spending a lot of time meeting with residents who wanted to see him. You could tell he wanted to visit with them all and make their day.

        • Yahmule

          I met Marv Wolfman over 30 years ago when no celebrity would have been caught dead at the San Diego ComicCon. Very nice guy. He answered questions and signed autographs while George Perez quickly departed the scene. I can kind of understand as those things are a lot more work for artists.

  • Nick
    • RagnarRagnarsson

      MUTE

      • We need a mute button specific to Rex Ryan for this one.

        • Nick

          Rex has never done this before, so I’m willing to give him a chance. I’m skeptical, but maybe he really will be good. Having a high quality PBP like Mowins will help him if he’s willing to accept the help.

  • Yahmule

    I guess I might watch the ESPY’s for the first time ever. Peyton Manning is going to be the host this year.

  • MarsLineman

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/05/170508112400.htm

    “Memory performance decreases with increasing age. Cannabis can reverse these ageing processes in the brain. This was shown in mice by scientists at the University of Bonn with their colleagues at The Hebrew University of Jerusalem (Israel). Old animals were able to regress to the state of two-month-old mice with a prolonged low-dose treatment with a cannabis active ingredient. This opens up new options, for instance, when it comes to treating dementia. The results are now presented in the journal Nature Medicine.”

    “This treatment success is the result of years of meticulous research. First of all, the scientists discovered that the brain ages much faster when mice do not possess any functional receptors for THC. These cannabinoid 1 (CB1) receptors are proteins to which the substances dock and thus trigger a signal chain. CB1 is also the reason for the intoxicating effect of THC in cannabis products, such as hashish or marihuana, which accumulate at the receptor. THC imitates the effect of cannabinoids produced naturally in the body, which fulfil important functions in the brain. “With increasing age, the quantity of the cannabinoids naturally formed in the brain reduces,” says Prof. Zimmer. “When the activity of the cannabinoid system declines, we find rapid ageing in the brain.”
    To discover precisely what effect the THC treatment has in old mice, the researchers examined the brain tissue and gene activity of the treated mice. The findings were surprising: the molecular signature no longer corresponded to that of old animals, but was instead very similar to that of young animals. The number of links between the nerve cells in the brain also increased again, which is an important prerequisite for learning ability. ‘It looked as though the THC treatment turned back the molecular clock,’ says Zimmer”

    • Tyler

      Is this saying Cannabis can be used to treat dementia or is it a way to prevent it?

      • InSiemianWeTrust

        Always be sceptical.

        What does “Old animals were able to regress to the state of two-month-old mice with a prolonged low-dose treatment with a cannabis active ingredient” mean?

        What do they mean by “regress?” I need to read deeper. The Neuroregeneration piece could be interesting. But there is so much data generated from mouse models that don’t translate to humans studies. I’m relatively pro-MJ, but I’d caution against declarations of clinical significance.

        • Tyler

          Oh I am skeptical. Hopeful, but skeptical. Just wasn’t sure what point was trying to be made.

          • InSiemianWeTrust

            The point is that when scientist gave mice weed and chopped up their brains, there appeared to be beneficial effects on neurochemical markers. 🙂

            That said, science is built on incremental findings. Cool stuff.

          • Yahmule

            You should have seen the cute little bongs they had these mice hitting. It was adorable. They had no idea their wee brains were gonna get sliced up.

          • InSiemianWeTrust

            High performing mice.

        • PiperAR

          Just because I’m looking for reasons to believe that medical MJ is the best thing ever doesn’t mean I’m not skeptical.

          • InSiemianWeTrust

            For sure man. My comment was directed at bench/basic science medical literature at large, rather than MJ or this study itself. Usually basic science research will require 20 years of translational work before we see any signs of clinical relevance.

          • gobroncos

            Who is this MJ you keep referring to? All I can think of is Mary Jane from the Spider Man comics.

          • Carsonic

            Michael Jordan, right?

          • PiperAR

            Apparently Tom Petty was at least a dance partner of hers. It may have ended due to Peter Parker.

          • Yahmule

            I call it Uncle Mike.

        • Nick

          That’s what I was sensing, too. Cannabis should absolutely be legal for other reasons, but I hold a little skepticism for “wonder drug” claims.

          • MarsLineman

            Personally, I think recreational marijuana should be legal for individuals aged 25 and up. And in certain rare cases (epilepsy, cancer) available by prescription to those younger than 25. There is research which strongly suggests that cannabis can stunt development

        • MarsLineman

          It has to do with projected learning rates- that chemical activity associated with learning regressed to youth-like states when the CB1 receptors were stimulated with THC.

          From the ScienceDaily article- “the molecular signature no longer corresponded to that of old animals, but was instead very similar to that of young animals. The number of links between the nerve cells in the brain also increased again, which is an important prerequisite for learning ability.”

        • Yahmule

          ..

      • MarsLineman

        Possibly both. But as InSiemian states, it’s still too early for human extrapolation

    • Yahmule
    • Kndh19

      Are they talking just CBD? Or is this with regular marijuana?

      • MarsLineman

        THC, which stimulates the CB1 receptors (CBD stimulates a different set of CB receptors). THC is the main psychoactive component of marijuana

    • VonSwenson

      Did you notice the dosage levels they’re using? I think I saw 3 mg THC / kg body weight (can’t find that reference now). That’s like 10x a “recreational” dose.

      • Alaskan

        As an old person (66) who uses legal recreational MJ in AK, I’d like to think it makes me smarter.
        But I have no empirical evidence and my wife might dispute that proposition, although she doesn’t care that I use it.

        • VonSwenson

          Just out of curiosity, what music do you like to listen to?

  • Jeremy

    Saw this interesting piece on fivethirtyeight.com about the decline in running back pay. The article actually talks mostly about why teams run the football too much. I think this statistical analysis is interesting, because so often you hear that you have to be able to run the ball to be successful, especially in the playoffs. The analysis is somewhat cursory, but it’s piqued my interest.

    The article misses what I think is a big factor with low running back pay. The new CBA has made players very cheap for the first 4 years, which roughly coincides with when running backs are most productive. If you can get a cheap rookie who is reasonably productive, why bother paying a veteran much more?

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/running-backs-are-finally-getting-paid-what-theyre-worth/

    • cjfarls

      The point at the end about the value of “triple threat” and short-yardage backs I think is also relevant. There is a valuable role for RBs that expand the passing options of the offense (CMC?), or who can move the chains very reliably in short-yardage (which in all but very rare cases is more a product of the o-line, not the RB)…

      But the 15-20carry per game grinder is not a high-leverage position. At that point, the biggest impact is just keeping the DEF honest against the pass, and that can be done with any competent RB… no need to pay elite money for that, just like no need to pay elite money for the very best kicker or punter… the opportunity to impact the game just isn’t there. So plug in a rookie or cheap FA… save the cap dollars for a higher leverage option.

    • PiperAR

      Stats guys ultimate boners are for the NFL playing like the Canadian football or the arena league.

  • The Color Orange
    • Carsonic

      Epic is right. I won’t even begrudge him the man-bun after comments like that.

    • InSiemianWeTrust

      Gained 20 pounds? Shit, he must have been pissed about our line being pushed around.

      • RSH

        Our defensive line is shaping up to have a lot of size on it. It reminds me some of what the Baltimore Ravens’ seek from a mass standpoint. Undrafted free agent nose tackle Tyrique is enormously imposing. I hope that the Broncos can mold him into a competent, future starter in its 3-4 base. Impressively, Jarrett has some movement skills and is not simply a space filler.
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9d745277de84c528082595396d1c29381e2f48b06002f6e9fdcaedf3af80a8c1.jpg

        • Yahmule

          Number nine was peeing a little as this picture was snapped.

          • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

            Jesus. I even dribbled a little.

      • Royalwithcheese
        • Yahmule

          They sure liked him a lot @ GA Tech. The guy went from Australian Rules Football to starting as a true freshman to being a team captain. Last year was a learning experience.

          • Nick

            And also possibly recovery from a torn ACL.

        • Tyler

          I watched Peko’s press conference yesterday and heard him say it. I was confused, thought he was calling 300 pound Derek Wolfe little wolfe.

    • Royalwithcheese

      DEFWU

    • pubkeeper

      I think he’s taken it personal, the drop in the run defense last year. Obvious he feels like they need to prove something this year.

  • Just re-read that Sundquist article on the drafting of Cutler. This part keeps the McDaniels sucks fire burning:

    “Shortly after Josh McDaniels moved into his office at Dove Valley, he called in Cutler and his agent, Bus Cook, for a closed-door meeting. The story goes that McDaniels began with a 20-minute dissertation of his resume, how he’d worked his way up the ranks in New England to become Bill Belichick’s right-hand man with the offense and how the team would have been nowhere the year before without his tutelage of backup Matt Cassel. He continued on with justification of his hiring by Bowlen.

    After the perplexing recitation of accomplishments, McDaniels suddenly shifted gears.

    He began to bash and berate Cutler and his game to the tune of a verbal flogging neither had ever witnessed. The expletive-laden diatribe went on for a few minutes, after which Cook stood up and told Cutler they were leaving. As they walked down the long hallway past Bowlen’s office, Cutler turned to Bus and said, “Get me out of here. I don’t care how you do it.”

    The development of Jay Cutler effectively ended in 2009, really just a little over two seasons after it started. Traded to the Bears, he went to Chicago with greater expectations and once again was playing the role of an outsider in the locker room.”

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2580349

    • cjfarls

      Exactly this. Cutler wasn’t a great QB in 2008, but he was quite good, and improving. He was never going to be a technician like Brady/Manning, but he could make up for it with superior athletic tools. Cutler was not the problem 2006-2008, which can much more easily be laid at the feet of an imploding DEF, a good coach at the end of his rope, and terrible injury luck.

      McD was a TERRIBLE fit for what we had at offense. He alienated Cutler, Marshall, Hillis, (and Scheffler)… all these guys had their issues for sure and may not have been sustainable over the long-run, but all (except Scheffler) also had at least moderate success after leaving. McD was exactly the wrong guy for the job.

      McD I think doesn’t get enough credit for some of the good things he did… but he was just totally unsuited for the job we needed as Shanny transitioned out. A chainsaw can be a useful tool… but not when you already have a bunch of lumber and just need a screwdriver/screws to put something together…

      Ellis biffed that one up big time. Contrast that with the hiring of Fox, who was the PERFECT fit for what the team needed post-McD (we needed an emotional grown up and someone to develop talent – both things Fox did great at).

      • Nick

        In his firing press conference (a very classy move by Bowlen that most fired head coaches don’t get), I recall Shanny saying something like “it would be crazy to change anything about this offense.” That led me to put McD at the bottom of my list of candidates they had interviewed…and then of course they hired him–and he quickly dismantled that offense. Ugh.

        • PiperAR

          Of COURSE Shanahan would say that. Regardless if the metric that better reflects the 2008 offense is #2 yardage (it’s not) or #16 scoring (it is) the offense was built on a foundation of sand. Ignoring the Cutler can of worms, the offense had one superstar in Ryan Clady, solid starters in Ryan Harris and Chris Kuper, and Eddie Royal as a soild #2. Center and LG were stopgaps that needed long term replacements ASAP but the pipeline was dry. Hillis was a fine rotational back, but other Brandon Marshall and Scheffler were NOT players you could count on as your #1 WR and #1 TE. Ignoring flaws and red flags was Shanahan’s MO.

          • cjfarls

            All NFL foundations are made of sand over the long-term. That doesn’t mean its okay to prematurely blow things up in the short-term.

            Hillis went on to run for 1400+ yards and a Madden cover. BMarsh-WR was erratic due to his mental illness, but undoubtedly had the talent to be a #1. Scheffler couldn’t block to save his life, but was a sneaky fast match-up nightmare that could stretch the seam for folks like Royal to work underneath and be a valuable piece of a TE rotation. Cutler was the best of all of them.

            Certainly the high-proportion of head-cases was problematic. The team needed folks like Rod Smith and Al Wilson to manage them, and when those folks left, Lynch/Dawk/et. al. Adding a emotionally immature kid as coach didn’t help their issues either. I think it would be perfectly reasonable for any new coach to trade BMarsh, etc. for those reasons. In isolation, the deal looks like fine value. No one is saying those folks didn’t have real issues.

            But as part of a larger context of blowing up a relatively functional system… it looks crazy on the whole. Trading Hillis for peanuts, and degrading the QB position created giant holes in the offense, which then required draft capital to fill. Go ahead and trade BM, while drafting DT and/or Decker later. That makes sense. No one debates the team needed to be built up… but did the house need burned to its foundation first?

    • PiperAR

      Don’t care.
      Really don’t care.

    • The Color Orange

      That was three head coaches ago. It’s time to let it go. Plus, you can trace a direct line from that incident to the Peyton Manning era and Super Bowl win, so who gives a shit anymore?

    • G Mik

      Cutler threw a fit and refused to show up for McDaniel’s press conference after Joe Ellis asked him to be there. McD being the idiot he was took it way too personally because he was used to a guy like Tom Brady who would do anything the team asked of him. That said, how can anyone miss Jay Cutler.

      Everyone acts like he had this great season but when all we needed was to beat an awful Buffalo team and we’d make the playoffs he couldn’t get anything done in the red zone. His MO. Great between the 20’s, sometimes, but awful decision maker overall.

      Who gives a shit if the guy can throw a bullet? Even Raider fans don’t miss Jamarcus Russell.

    • Yahmule

      McDaniels will never have the temperament to be a head coach. Save this and repost it the next time someone tries to revise his history in town. Which only happens once or twice a year now.

      • Nick

        I continue to get the feeling that McDaniels is waiting to be the heir apparent to Belichick. A lot of Patriots haters will love it if that happens and you’re correct.

    • ElwayIsGod7

      Fuck McDaniels.

      #NeverForget

    • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

      It was pretty depressing to have to read, and relive that for a moment. Thank God we won a Super Bowl 15 months ago.