• Russ
    • orangeandblueaussie

      Wait, what?!?

      • Lynch is from Oakland, maybe he wants to play there a year. There was a rumor about the Raiders doing something “big” at RB yesterday with a guy who didn’t play last year. So, there it is…

    • Nick

      I fully welcome any effort for the Raiders to acquire washed up RBs if it means taking them out of consideration for Christian McCaffrey.

      On another note, Lynch is an Oakland native and went to Cal. It’d be hilarious if he gets to the Raiders right when they move to Las Vegas. (Yes, I know they want to stay in Oakland while the Vegas stadium’s being built, but as I’ve said before that has a PR nightmare written all over it.)

    • Carsonic

      My first thought is that after being retired for a while he wouldn’t make it through camp. OTOH, he’s “only” 30, and if he’s kept up his workouts and stayed in playing shape… I’d be very surprised.

    • RSH, Esq.
    • RSH, Esq.
    • Royalwithcheese

      I would not welcome this.

      • Nick

        I would be quite surprised if Lynch came near his peak performance. Even if he did this is just a Band-Aid solution for the Raiders.

    • Benjamin Funderburk

      Poorly done pic, but I’d love him to sign if only to see these two battle for Skittles supremacy!

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fe1f3cd43270568bb7fa81e8d3cf74e4c8e0f514aa3874ff62fce773ab4efd57.png

      • RSH, Esq.

        I used to love Skittles until some weird apple flavor replaced lime. Not cool.

        • Nick

          I didn’t know that happened. I haven’t eaten Skittles in years, and now I have even less reason to do so.

    • FloydLittle44

      I still think Adrian Peterson will end up with the Raiders.

    • Sparks

      We should try to sign him if for no other reason than to convert on 3rd and 1’s. Not really, but it would be nice if we had somebody on the roster that could consistently convert short distances.

      • Carsonic

        Our new guard should help us out a lot in that situation.

        • BlackKnigh

          YES!!

        • RSH, Esq.

          And not using outside zone plays 54% of the time when running the ball.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            I wouldn’t even care that they ran it so often if any of those plays had worked, but how can you do something and fail that many times and just keep doing it? Insanity. How many times did we hear Kubiak say “We need to execute better.” Well coach, after about 250 unsuccessful outside zone runs, you may just want to re-think your approach, nom sayn?

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          Yeah, I think short yardage conversions are way more on the offensive line than on the back. Turning 3 into 7 or 5 into 25, that’s where the back makes a difference. When you need a foot, the line is either going to get it or they aren’t, and I’m not sure it matters much who’s behind them.

      • PiperAR

        I’m thinking Lynch at this point would best be used as a late career Bettis, short yardage specialist. Darn near impossible to stop from goal to go at the 2, but not going to carry the rock 25 times a game.

        If the Raiders want him to carry the rock 25 times a game, I don’t see it ending well.

        • Yahmule

          They have a pair of youngsters in Washington and Richard who could use a hammerheaded third down guy to keep them healthy.

  • RSH, Esq.
  • bradley
  • Mixon’s agent said Mixon has Ezekiel Elliot talent “if not more.” C’mon now.

    • Carsonic
    • drewthorn

      I didn’t follow the Sooners at all the last couple of years, but I do watch Oklahoma news somewhat consistently, and Samaje Perine showed up in OU highlights far more than Mixon. He’ll be a very nice value pick for somebody.

      • Nick

        Out of the few OU games I watched, I got the same impression.

      • Yahmule

        That’s a strong dude. We could draft McCaffrey @ 20 and get him later and I wouldn’t complain.

  • RSH, Esq.

    Old friend Ben Garland with a great tweet.

    https://twitter.com/BenGarland63/status/842457461273579521

  • RSH, Esq.

    If Christian McCaffrey is gone before pick 20, Dalvin Cook would be an extremely tempting selection if he slides to that slot.

    https://twitter.com/fduffy3/status/842743711960391682

    • I’m not a fan of Cook. I just can’t see Denver taking a RB in first unless it’s McCaffrey or another player that can contribute as a runner, line up in the slot (not just catch passes out of the backfield) and return kickoffs and punts.

      • RSH, Esq.

        Cook can line up in the slot. Florida State, in my opinion, did not use him as effectively and diversely as they could have as a receiver. My only concern with Cook is the off the field distractions and disruptions. Cook is a playmaker and game changer. He has potential to be a Marshall Faulk type.

      • gobroncos

        I agree. I’m against getting a RB in the 1st unless he’s a triple threat type guy. Correction: he’s a triple threat and we need a PR KR and a slot guy. If we have a good slot guy and we have a good KR PR, then I’d be against it.

    • FloydLittle44

      I have heard that Cook cannot block. Something teams will consider.

    • GrizzlyB

      Boy, based on his game film, it is just really difficult to see Cook dropping to 20. I think most years he would easily be the top RB, and it’s only due to coincidentally coming out in the same year as a freak like Fournette that any talk of him dropping at all exists. I might prefer CMC for the Broncos by a bit because I highly value his versatility, but if anyone thinks he’s in Cook’s category as a runner, they are kidding themselves. I can’t see a team who wants a RB drafting CMC over Cook, and I can’t see a team who wants a slot receiver/returner/weapon drafting him in the 1st, either, so it’s hard for me to see a situation where CMC is drafted before Cook. I would certainly think hard about taking Cook at 20 if he were still there, though, even if CMC were also available.

      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        The other reason he might slide is character flags. He’s got a Manziel-like party posse and multiple children with multiple women. Enough to make a team think twice about investing a first round pick in him. I imagine it will come down to whether he’s able to convince a team during the interview process that he’ll stay focused on the game. The film is rock solid, no doubt.

        • GrizzlyB

          That’s true, I have heard a little about that. I guess it’s hard for us outsiders to gauge, but I feel like Manziel had way more of a problem, and he was still taken in the first. They say that he could be fine as long as he’s out of Florida, but I think they said the same thing about Johnny. I wonder how much of a problem Cook really is, relative to your typical college star?

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            There’s really no way for us to know, but if he tumbles on draft day I think it’s safe to assume that character is the reason.

          • Yahmule

            He’s got some ugly shit in his past.

          • GrizzlyB

            Sheesh, that is news to me. I’d heard about him hitting a woman in a bar, but none of the other incidents in that article. These concerns on him certainly run deep.

      • drewthorn

        I think the combine should be mostly bullshit, but I’ve read from multiple sources that McCaffrey’s agility and explosion scores were the best since A. Peterson and that a player with shuttle times and jumps as bad as Cook’s hasn’t been drafted in the first round for quite some time.

    • Yahmule

      That was some pretty solid analysis. I liked seeing Marlon Humphrey laying the wood in run support at the top of that clip.

  • RSH, Esq.
  • Dekoda Watson visiting Seahawks today.

    • RSH, Esq.

      I don’t see him being a good fit in that defense. He would fit with the Rams, but they just signed Connor Barwin yesterday.

      • The Color Orange

        Last year he was talking about how he was thrilled to be here because the Broncos were the first team that understood how to use him. I’m surprised he wants to leave. They must be offering the absolute minimum.

        • Nick

          Makes you wonder why the Rams haven’t taken a run at him yet, then.

        • Here’s some comments on Edebali by Sean Payton. Very complementary though highlights he’s what Watson was last yr.: ST regulart and situational pass rusher. Surprising though the Saints didn’t tender him given Payton said “heā€™s just one of those guys you hate to lose.”

          http://milehighsports.com/former-coach-sean-payton-provides-scouting-report-kasim-edebali/

          • Some teams don’t give players the RFA tender because they believe they can sign them for less money that isn’t guaranteed. The perfect example is the Broncos with Steven Johnson a couple of years ago.

            The original round tender, which Edebali would have received, is nearly $1.8M and, once a player signs the tender, I believe the money becomes fully guaranteed. The Saints probably thought they could get him back for less money than the tender and not commit to a fully-guaranteed salary.

            As for Watson, he’s 29 years old, so it’s possible he wants to get the highest salary he can get while he’s still in his prime. The veteran minimum for Watson is $900,000 but it’s possible he could want twice that (and he can legitimately argue that a key special teams player should get a one-year deal for at least $1.8M).

            So it comes down to whether or not you think Watson and Edebali are about the same in terms of talent. If you think one is better than the other, you go with that player. If not, you’re going to lean toward the player who will take less money, especially if that player is younger (Edebali is 27).

          • Thanks Bob, good point. I failed to consider that the Saints may have made him an offer below the tender rate before he decided to sign with Denver.

    • ElwayIsGod7

      NOOOOO

      • Nick

        Would you trade Watson for a 3rd round comp pick? There’s not an obvious answer to that question, but that’s what might happen.

        • The Color Orange

          A third rounder for Watson?

          • GrizzlyB

            Right now our CFAs gained/lost are equal. If we lose one more guy, it opens up the 3rd for Okung signing that ridiculous deal. Walker would also work, but basically we need one of them to get a deal to open up Okung’s pick.

          • Nick

            To expound further on what GrizzlyB said:

            If the following things happen:
            1) Watson signs elsewhere
            2) Watson qualifies as a CFA (signs a large enough deal, stays on the roster through Week 10)
            3) Broncos sign no more CFAs of their own
            4) Ronald Leary stays valued as a 4th rounder
            5) Russell Okung qualifies as a CFA via the declined team option (as Darrelle Revis did for the Patriots)
            the Broncos would get a 3rd round comp pick for Okung. As stated above, a few things need to go right for it to happen. It’s also cromulent if the Broncos believe that signing a certain CFA now is better than getting a late 3rd in 2018.

          • The Color Orange

            Got it.

          • GrizzlyB

            So, I infer that the snap count adjustment is equal to 1% of APY for every 5% of snaps played, with 45% being the break-even point, but is that prorated or not? So, if Leary misses one snap, does that drop him to the 95% adjustment or no? This contract looks to really be cutting it close with a guy fairly likely to play every snap — I wish more money could’ve been put into incentives or workout bonuses or something.

          • Nick

            Leary’s currently ranked #131, and the cutoff point is likely to be around #108. He may move up in the rankings, but other players ahead of him will also log high snap counts. The team that’s really going to be sweating it out is the Ravens, Ricky Wagner’s right on the 3rd/4th cutoff. As it stands now they could get a 3rd for Wagner or a rock bottom 7th for Vladimir Ducasse.

          • GrizzlyB

            Oh, right, that was my other question. I assumed that only compensatory free agents had their APYs adjusted by snap count, but does that apply to every player when ranking their salaries? So Brees, Antonio Brown, etc. all have their contracts inflated by playing high snap counts as well?

          • Nick

            Yep, at least that’s how I’ve interpreted it. I almost completely nailed the order of the comp picks within rounds, so I think I’m damn close on how the snap count adjustments work.

          • GrizzlyB

            Seems like it would’ve come up at some point if you were doing it wrong, yeah. Whew, that’s a load off my mind! Going through OTC’s contract list, even while adjusting only Leary’s contract, I think he would’ve been under #108 with just a minor reduction in his snap count adjustment (say, 15% bonus for 95% of snaps), so he seems pretty dang safe if most of the contracts I had him bypassing are also getting inflated alongside him.

          • Nick

            I think he’ll stay a 4th, but I can’t say for sure, it’s very tricky to figure out how all that will work out before the fact.

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          Absolutely.

        • Rhett Rothberg

          I’d be happy for a bag of donuts for a guy who’s been on a ton of teams and never did anything. Still don’t get the love for that guy

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            How to become a folk hero among the Bronco faithful:

            1. Possess marginal talent at best;

            2. Play well in a preseason game or two.

          • Yahmule

            I expect this kind of cynical knee-jerk nonsense in lieu of analysis from a lot of people here, but generally hold you to a higher standard. You usually take enough care to back up what you say by taking context into consideration. Watson’s improvement this season is traceable to a position change that took advantage of his skill set. His lack of production can be explained by the players ahead of him on the depth chart. You don’t get bumped if you’re performing at a high level. It’s not the way anybody runs a team.

            I deal with this in countless different cases every spring as I prepare for roto drafts and auctions. Players will look like All Stars for two or three months after playing at a certain level for a number of years. Sometimes, it’s just an extended hot streak and people who only scout the stat sheet get burned the following year. But other times, the reason a player improves is because he’s like JD Martinez, who washed out in Houston and was forgotten by everybody. He signed with Detroit and I took a flyer on him. He changed his approach to be more like Miguel Cabrera and now he’s one of the most feared power hitters in baseball.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            I was just being a smart ass about fans’ tendency to fall in love with guys buried on the depth chart. Watson is a fine player. I was just thinking of all the objects of the fan base’s affection over the years, like the Zac Dyserts and Tom Brandstaters and Bradlee Van Pelts of the world. Watson is a better player than all of those guys but nevertheless is propped up among fans probably a little higher than he should be.

          • Yahmule

            I hear you. I just look at Brandon Marshall’s example. He was misused and cut three times by one of the worst teams in the league. Even the Broncos coaches didn’t realize how good he was when we had him at first. Manning and some other offensive guys had to petition them to get him off the practice squad. And this was on a team with a gaping hole @ ILB. Imagine if we had the depth chart Watson was looking up at all year.

            Every Al Bundy or Julius Thomas’s daddy has a story about why they got screwed, but at the highest level, some guys really do get lost in the shuffle. The numbers game is real. Of course, it’s a lot better for athletes today than it was in the past. Before baseball had free agency, some really good players would get signed by the Yankees as teenagers and then they would spend their entire careers riding buses for a team in Newark because they had Yogi Berra or some other Hall of Famer blocking them.

          • Sparks

            SMA, we’ve been over this, BVP was never given a fair shot! šŸ™‚

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            I did see him score a TD in a preseason game, so he was clearly awesome.

          • Sparks

            Thank you for the vindication.

          • Nick

            Some time later, I’ll need to upload his legendary regular season rushing TD against the Chiefs.

          • VonSwenson

            I always knew that Jeff Lewis could’ve been great.

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            Yet you were unhappy we didn’t extend Brock (early)…

          • Rhett Rothberg

            ?

            Brock actually performed in a pinch…. Watson did……?????

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            Eh. Brock certainly played better than expected for a few games. Enough to convince folks he was the shit, I’ll give you that. Watson? No, you’re right, he didn’t do much other than flash some potential now and then. Of course, he was behind some stellar players.

          • Rhett Rothberg

            All I’m saying is I get the general sense that some think Watson is just a Von stuck on the third string…

            For me, you’re on the third string for a reason….

            And I get Yahmule’s point below… but, a player is what they are….

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          Swap out Watson for a cheaper and younger version of the same player (Edibali) AND a third round comp pick? Every day of the week.

    • Yahmule

      Great fit for him. They could use help @ OLB. I wouldn’t be surprised if he locks down a starting job for them.

  • Nick
  • Nick

    Ryan Nassib must be really bad if they’re taking Geno over bringing him back.

    https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/842763127037026305

    • ohiobronco

      I still remember when National Football Post had him ranked as the number one overall prospect in that draft. There was a lot of talk of him being drafted in the top 10 by the Bills where they took EJ Manuel.

      • Nick

        And then, of course, came his brief temper tantrum of leaving the green room in New York when he didn’t go in the first round as expected. But EJ Manuel was overrated as well–no QB should have gone in the first round that year even before the fact.

        • Yahmule

          I liked when IK Enemkpali socked him.

      • Yahmule

        He started his senior season 5-0 with 25 TD’s and no interceptions and suddenly he was getting national attention. People didn’t realize that he was aided greatly by throwing a lot of short high percentage passes and watching Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey juke defenders out of their jocks.

    • Nick
  • The Color Orange

    MHR profiles Garett Bolles. They think he works only in a zone blocking system. http://www.milehighreport.com/2017/3/17/14953844/scouting-report-scouting-garett-bolles

  • Nick

    I’m surprised that contract details on Sylvester Williams haven’t come out yet. It’s been a week since the Titans signed him. Maybe the calculus is that few people care about a low-profile position on a low-profile team.

    • You would think there might be more interest after Dontari Poe and Bennie Logan signed one-year deals for $8M. Would be interesting to see if the Titans got Williams at good value or if they committed just as much per year.

  • gobroncos
    • Nick

      Since I’m notorious for enjoying the color green, I would totally buy a St. Patrick’s themed Broncos piece of apparel.

      • Yahmule

        My nephew was obsessed with the color green as a little boy. He also loved cats. My sister took him to pick out a kitten. He chose a black cat and he named him Green. His dad pointed out that the cat was black not green and Matt looked at him like he was stupid (spoiler alert right there) and said, “I’m not telling you what color he is, I’m telling you his name.” And two days later, we all learned about feline leukemia.

        • JMac

          I was so happy until that last sentence…….

          • Yahmule

            I’m sorry I bummed you out. It happened almost 30 years ago. Matt quickly got another cat. My sister paid for them to test every kitten they had for feline leukemia before she even brought Matt to pick one out. He chose a big striped cat and pleased his literalist father by naming him Stripes. A bit later, they bought another cat and Matt named him Figaro. Stripes didn’t see the need for a second cat, so he was mean to Figaro. After much conversation, Stripes got kicked out and went to live with our friend Chris. He had this lean and fearless black cat named Willie and she put the Fat Man in his place in about four seconds. The new unflattering name bestowed upon him was even more galling coming from a guy who could pass for Terrence Knighton’s body double.

          • JMac

            I like this part of the story much better!! Thanks šŸ™‚

          • gobroncos

            I took care of a friends cat one summer. He was so big his nickname was Moose.

  • Nick

    1987 DVOA came out on Monday:

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2017/1987-dvoa-ratings-and-commentary

    This part hurts:

    The 1991 Washington Redskins may have the best DVOA in the history of our metrics, but the 1987 Washington Redskins had the lowest DVOA of any Super Bowl champion until the Cinderella run of the 2007 Giants.

    […]

    The Broncos won thanks to The Fumble by Earnest Byner, and the Las Vegas oddsmakers agreed with what DVOA would have said at the time: the Broncos were favored by 3 in Super Bowl XXII. Instead, Washington wiped the floor with them, 42-10.

    The Redskins were ranked 10th. The Broncos were ranked 4th. Ouch. (Cleveland was also ranked 3rd.)

    On another note, this was the year that scabs played in three weeks, and DVOA correctly ignores those weeks. I was also very excited to read this sentence:

    “Year of the Scab” is going to be the basis for — and title of — an ESPN 30-for-30 documentary currently in development.

    I can’t wait to watch that. I was only 6 when this happened so obviously I don’t have a lot of strong direct memories. But considering how terrible the scab refs were in 2012 (that Broncos/Falcons game still pisses me off with how bad they were), I’m expecting the worst when it comes to scab players. Also, fuck scabs in general.

    • Yahmule

      Bill Bryan lost a lot of friends on the team when he crossed. He retired after the following season @ 33.

      The strike was good news for the Redskins. Gibbs and Beatherd scouted and signed a strong scrub team and went 3-0 during those games. We should have faced the Vikings in that Super Bowl. Darrin Nelson dropped a game tying pass with a minute left in the NFC championship game and has worn goat’s horns ever since. If you watch the replay, you’ll see Anthony Carter screwed him by cutting his clearout route back towards Nelson and this allowed Darrell Green to contact Nelson the instant the ball got to him. Vikings not only have a dusty 0-4 SB mark, but they’ve blown a couple of golden opportunities to go back.

      • DCJ1

        The Redskins were living with luck that year, and that SuperBowl was no different. Haynes whiffed on a jam and let Sanders score a stupid long TD, then the blown fumble call which resulted in a 14 point swing. At that point the team was shell-shocked, and Reeves retreated into his shell and would only try long FGs for the rest of the game even though they were down 35-10.

        • Yahmule

          The second half of the AFC Championship Game had me fearful about any NFC opponent in XXII.

        • BlackKnigh

          Denver played Washington in 1986 in one humdinger of a game. It was tight all the way. I think Denver won – but it could have gone either way. I was trying to watch it while I was in a bank tower downtown Portland helping my wife and her employer. I could only follow parts of it as the reception was so bad.
          I thought that when they played in the SB – that we would see the same kind of game. No luck!

          • Nick

            I think that, with the possible exception of the 1989 49ers, if you replayed any of the Super Bowl losses, the Broncos may or may not still lose, but the margins would be closer.

          • Yahmule

            It wouldn’t have mattered since they were an all time team, but Bobby Humphrey’s cracked ribs and John Elway catching the flu before the game didn’t help matters. I got so drunk during that game, in the second half, I thought the refs might step in and stop it like a boxing match.

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            I honestly went into watching each game (except maybe against SF) thinking we were going to win. And then just watched them implode. I have a buddy that (after the upset loss to Jacksonville) was like, “Man, I can’t handle losing in the Superbowl anymore, I’d rather they lose in the playoffs, even like this, than endure another Super Bowl loss.” I disagreed with him, but understood his point. For a lot of fans, that GB game was such a huge catharsis.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            Completely agree. I cried during the Redskins Super Bowl (I was 10), but against the 49ers I just kinda knew there was no hope. And don’t tell my wife, but during the waning moments of Super Bowl XXXII is probably the happiest I’ve ever been.

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            I cried (obviously tears of joy) during Super Bowl XXXII, and we were hosting a Super Bowl party (was in D.C. at the time) and everyone there except for me either was basically ambivalent, or didn’t even care about football. At least there were no GB fans. Anyway, I was going crazy, and people were looking at me like I was nuts.

            The next year (I was in Europe, but worked with pretty much a lot of the same crew of people), I literally watched (via satellite) that Superbowl against Atlanta alone (my wife, who grew up in Denver, but basically hates football, came in now and again to ask me how it was going, and remind me to breathe).

            Now, at least, I’m much closer to Colorado and try to get back there for the playoffs to watch with friends. Plus, two of my daughters are big fans too, so that helps.

          • Nick

            Not only do I disagree, I don’t understand it, either. I consider that Jacksonville loss to be the worst loss in Broncos history, with the 2012 Ravens loss at #2. I’ll take getting blown out in the Super Bowl any day over those piece of shit games.

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            Totally agree.

          • Sparks

            I was at that game. We had seats just behind and to the north of the Washington team, about 10 rows up. Our whole section was riding Dexter Manley the whole game with chants like “Dex-Ter, Dex-ter” and so forth. To the point he moved to the other end of the bench. This, of course, was arguably Manley’s finest season as a Pro – only Pro-Bowl and 1st Team All-NFL. We win 31-30, after starting out down 13-0 and the fighting them off in the 4th. I’ll never forget that after the game, we were in the walkway that used to encircle the old Mile High to leave and some guy was still riding Manley pretty hard and he actually came after him and grabbed him over the fence. Security quickly intervened but we had obviously gotten to him that night. Man, I loved that old stadium.

          • Yahmule

            Always funny when a guy lets the crowd know he’s got rabbit ears. The heckling ratchets up immediately.

          • Sparks

            Exactly, by the end of the game, the whole section was riding him, in chorus. We had a hard time getting together on the National Anthem but if it came to riding a player, we were full throat, in harmony and in time. We always used to ride some poor opposing player, but he stands out. The other one that stands out is Jeff George. We used the same childish “Jeff-rey” chant until he moved to the other end of the bench as well. Unfortunately for him, the fans over there continued the chant. This was in ’93. We jumped out to a 28-0 lead and cruised to a 35-13 win. George had a horrible game. Both Chicken Braxton and Dennis Smith had picks. We had bought some tickets from a bar that was offering a whole package of tix, bus ride up and back and booze up and back. Our whole group got tanked. Sure, feed us booze all day in what was a nice relaxing ass-stomping of a game and then pour us into a bar at the end. One of my buddies passed out on the bus ride home. Baaaad mistake. A lady in our group broke out the make-up and we painted him up pretty good. We woke up enough to make it into the bar when we got back and we sat around for a good hour trying to sober out before he said he had to go to the bathroom. We literally heard him screaming and cussing all the way across the bar when he finally made it to a mirror. šŸ™‚

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            I just saw this post and was like, Hey, we were at the same game! Then I realized you were talking Broncos, not Buffs. Looks like us fans graduated and “grew up!”

          • Sparks

            Ah, gotcha…so you Buffs guys initiated him for Colorado taunting. lol

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            Jeff George. But I only saw him against CU, not against the Broncos. So, we weren’t at the same game. Although it looks like we both participated in massive taunting of him, just on separate occasions.

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            I remember going to a CU game against Illinois and Jeff George was their highly touted QB. We crushed him, sacked him like seven times, and he looked like he just wanted to go home. The student section (of course) all started chanting George-is-a-pux-xy. He heard. After that game, I was like what’s the hype about this guy?

          • RSH, Esq.

            Dude’s a thin skinned clown. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwaI8dkMVQI

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            Watching that makes me feel not bad about the earlier taunts, Seems like he deserved it.

          • Yahmule

            That was hilariously classless. IMO, the most distasteful thing about him is he’s friends with Whitlock.

          • BlackKnigh

            I had forgotten the final score – but I knew it was in the 30’s. Thanks.

        • FarAwayBroncoFan

          I felt like we were “shell-shocked” in every single Superbowl (Dallas, NYG, Wash, SF) prior to the one against GB, which finally turned things around.

    • FarAwayBroncoFan

      Those Superbowl losses were devastating. I thought our team was so good at the time, and we just got killed in the SB. It got to the point that I don’t think hardly any of us thought we had a chance against SF. We didn’t, but man we performed even worse than I thought possible. I mean, how could we lose worse than 42-10? Still makes me upset.

      • Yahmule

        I would get frustrated when Howard Balzer and other analysts @ Pro Football Weekly used to “underrate” those Broncos teams. Then the Broncos would face these NFC East teams with huge beasts on both sides of the LOS and get dominated just like PFW said we would.

    • G Mik

      It’s not fair or just to blame scabs for trying to work or breaking Union lines – they don’t have any loyalty to that union. Why should they? That’s ridiculous. These are people that are less qualified but that want/need an opportunity. That’s not a negative in my book. Suggesting that Unions are always right or the moral high ground couldn’t be more false. And I’m not blasting Unions I believe in them, but they can be as crooked or more than the companies they unionize and their workers can be twice as lazy because… they can.

      • Nick

        True, unions aren’t always in the right in every single labor dispute. I just have a problem with third parties entering themselves in that dispute in such a manner.

  • Nick

    This should surprise absolutely no one.

    https://twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/status/842779788070797312

    • drewthorn

      I’d like to think most grown ups with IQs that disqualify them from institutional care requirements would find Rex Ryan too annoying to watch for more than a sounbite or two per month. Then I remember that I haven’t had the stomach for an NFL pregame show for going on 2 decades, so good for Rex.

      • Yahmule

        I gave ’em up when Jayne Kennedy left.

      • ohiobronco

        A couple times last year I turned Red Zone channel on a few minutes early and the Fox pregame show was on. Even knowing it was pretty LCD, I was shocked at how infantile it was. It makes NFLN and ESPN seem like Phd level football analysis.

      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        As long as he can speak in complete sentences and stay awake on set he’ll be a substantial improvement over Ditka. Like you, though, I don’t watch so I don’t really care who’s on the show. I pretty much exclusively watch Fantasy Football Now on Sunday mornings. Good fantasy insights and the most tolerable on-air personalities.

        • drewthorn

          I can’t really do national NFL media at all. My already pronounced hypersensitivity to Broncos criticism flairs up awful bad when I don’t mind my habits.

  • Rhett Rothberg

    Let us not forget, once Romo fest has wrapped up, should we leave empty handed, the fella Elway pursued last year (Kaepernick) is still waiting in the wings, probably willing to to something on the cheap…

    https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/842797404512509954

    • The Color Orange

      I don’t think Elway gives people a second chance to say no to him.

    • Yahmule

      I think signing this guy on the cheap makes sense. We could carry three QB’s if we get him cheap enough and bide our time waiting for a contender to take an injury and get desperate. Minnesota coughed a first rounder for proven loser (six seasons, no winning records) Sam Bradford last season. Kaepernick is only 29 and he’s super low mileage. Wheels are as good as ever. Career high 6.8 yards per carry last year. It would be fun to inexpensively acquire a player that teams shunned because they were concerned about fan backlash and then beat them with him.

    • Rhett Rothberg
  • SterlingMalloryArcher

    Jesus Christ, man. Have some respect for the English language. “What the heck is people talking about I ain’t sign nothing.”

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/17/jason-pierre-paul-i-aint-sign-nothing/

  • RSH, Esq.
    • G Mik

      Good for him! Great story.

    • The Color Orange

      I guess that’s what people is talking about.

      • Yahmule

        Anybody who would act all coy for months after blowing his hand apart is going to do things in his own time.

    • pubkeeper

      I wonder how much his signature has changed….

      • Yahmule

        Would you switch to lefty or try to find some workable grip with manglehand?

  • RSH, Esq.

    If the Broncos do not land Christian McCaffrey or a running back with a similar skillset in this draft, I would not mind seeing the Broncos kick the tires on Jamaal Charles should he remain unsigned into May.

    Jamaal Charles, running back

    It shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone that Charles has been forced to wait to find a serious suitor. He’s scheduled to meet with the Seahawks even after the team signed Eddie Lacy, which sounds like a date Pete Carroll was too polite to cancel.

    NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo reported before free agency that Charles’ primary objective was to sign with a Super Bowl contender. Two AFC teams come to mind. The Steelers extracted great value from DeAngelo Williams after he turned 30 and could use a backup to Le’Veon Bell. The Broncos have questions in the backfield because of injuries to C.J. Anderson and the shaky rookie season of Devontae Booker. Charles might have to rely on his vision and patience to wait out the right opportunity. Teams may not want to sign him until after seeing how April’s draft, with its loaded class of running backs, pans out.

    BEST FIT: Denver Broncos

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000793234/article/best-team-fits-for-notable-remaining-free-agents

    • Yahmule

      If Shanahan would have drafted him, we don’t start seven running backs in 2008 and Mike hangs onto his job a while longer.

    • Rhett Rothberg

      dont kick those tires too hard!

      • Yahmule

        His ACL’s are 90% scar tissue by now.

    • Sparks

      I said it the other day and I’ll reiterate here, I know it’s a big IF, but IF he can stay healthy he’s arguably a top 10 back in this league. Add in his receiving ability, and he’s arguably top 5. If the price is right, I would have no issue with the Broncos pursuing him. If injury is his only concern, I’d have to argue that the same concern exists for CJ. Hopefully between the 2, with CMC, Booker and Jano getting some limited carries, they could cobble together a full season of production. Yes, I already have CMC on the Broncos as I’m trying to use positive thinking to turn dreams into reality.

      • drewthorn

        It wouldn’t be the first time Denver got a big bounce from a scrap heap RB. Buckhalter and McGahee come to mind.

        • RSH, Esq.

          Buckhalter is one of my favorite unheralded Broncos of all-time.

          • drewthorn

            Yes, he was a small ray of sunshine in Dove Valley’s dystopian era.

  • Yahmule

    Nick, any comment on the NFL’s evolution into a star and scrubs league? At least that describes the direction payroll is heading. I think this is already contributing to worse play as more veterans caught in this economic reality decide that the pay isn’t worth the long term sacrifices.

    https://theringer.com/nfl-free-agency-players-losing-leverage-864759d6cbdb#.8jrnz4teg

    • Nick

      I’m going to be leaving the house soon, and I only had the time to speed read the article for now. I need to thoroughly re-read it

      before I comment, and since I’m guessing most people are headed out for the day as well, I’ll save those comments for tomorrow.

    • Rhett Rothberg

      Interesting…. Hillman is featured as is Over the Cap.

      Seems the issue is the guaranteed contract issue. Amazing that the NBA, a pretty low injury league, has it and the NFL doesnt.

      Interesting how it manifests too. In the NBA, the haves and have nots are more at the team level. While this is manifesting in the player contracts.

      • PiperAR

        The NBA has small rosters, an 80 game regular season, and a soft salary cap. If fully guaranteed contracts came to the NFL, one year and we’ll see, two years and we’ll see, and three years and we’ll see for the superstars likely turn into 1 year, 2 year, or 3 years for superstars only. At least, that’s what a smart GM would do. Or, load up the back end of the contract with incentives. Imagine the mess Jacksonville would be in if the contracts they passed out were fully guaranteed. They’d be stuck with under performing JT or eat the contract. If the NFL did move to short term, fully guaranteed contracts, owners would want something to make it more likely to retain their players. Maybe do away with tags and each UFA’s current team always gets the opportunity to match contracts.

  • RSH, Esq.
    • GrizzlyB

      *scoffs indignantly*

  • Yahmule
    • Nick

      Part of me is rooting for him to pull a Warren Moon and light things up in the CFL so it can force owners and execs to wake up.

      • Snatch Mouth

        Kaepernick couldnt hold Warren Moons jock strap…please

        • Nick

          “Pulling a Warren Moon” does not necessarily equal “equating Warren Moon”.

          • Snatch Mouth

            Lighting up the CFl does…or is that just a light bulb?

    • FloydLittle44

      He’s the perfect backup. If the starter went out, defenses probably couldn’t adjust.

    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      I’m not a huge fan of Kaepernick as a player, but if I was to make a list of things the league should be embarrassed about he wouldn’t be on it.

  • Snatch Mouth

    Giants gave JPP 40m Guaranteed for his 7 sacks last yr…hasnt played a full season since 14..

    Were so lucky to have Von

  • Nick

    Farewell, Dekota. Thanks, for the time being, for getting a 3rd round comp pick on the board for the Broncos.

    https://twitter.com/49ers/status/842937236110827520

    • Nick

      Well…thanks for staying on the light side!

      https://twitter.com/caplannfl/status/842936676590764032

    • Nick

      If this APY is accurate, the Broncos won’t have to worry much about Watson not making the team. Good for Watson if he’s got a solid deal for 2017.

      https://twitter.com/VicLombardi/status/842932437290287104

    • GrizzlyB

      Glad to have the 3rd, but that’s a pretty reasonable APY on a multi-year deal for a ST stalwart and depth edge rusher. Depending on what happens with Walker now (i.e. if he gets enough money and stays on a roster to qualify as a CFA), I may have liked to have Watson here on that deal.

      • Nick

        If the Broncos saw him as solely as a special teamer and #4 edge rusher, then $2M APY is too much for that role for them. However, I’ll stress that I’m very happy for Watson that he got that deal with the 49ers, and for a team that’s far less deep at edge rusher, he has a very good chance at contributing more in SF than he would in DEN. I wonder if John Lynch got a good recommendation from Elway regarding Watson.

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          That Lynch/Elway conversation almost certainly took place. The draft is loaded with pass rushers, so I think we’ll add one on day 3, and he’ll be cheap.

        • GrizzlyB

          Maybe, but we paid Bruton $1.5 million to play STs a few years ago, and the Patriots pay Slater about $2 million. They’re probably both better than Watson on STs, but he plays a more valuable position, and probably at a higher level than they play their positions… I dunno, I see it as a wash. Hopefully we already have guys who can step in for them, but I don’t much like losing 3 ST captains in the past 2 years (I’ll take the comp picks any day, though!).

          And yeah, I bet that had something to do with Lynch signing him to good multiyear deal like he got (assuming Lombardi isn’t BSing).

          • Snatch Mouth

            Most replaceable position on the team via the draft..even a street CFA

        • Yahmule

          I hate to see him go, but I’m glad he didn’t wind up in the division. Ahmad Brooks is the only quality linebacker on the 49ers and he turned 33 this week.