• RSH, Esq.
  • Nick

    Florio has been hot on the “It’s likely Kaepernick is getting blackballed” beat.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/19/why-wont-browns-take-a-chance-on-colin-kaepernick/

    • ohiobronco

      The more I think about this the more it bothers me.

      • Nick

        As Broncos fans, we may to prepare ourselves for having to answer why Elway has no interest in him now when he did last year. I think there are legitimate football reasons for not bringing in Kaepernick now, but none of us can fully read Elway’s mind. It would be nice if Siemian and/or Lynch play lights out so this possible question is obviated.

        • ohiobronco

          The football case against him for the Broncos is pretty clear. He’s not good enough to be a clear #1 but he is too good to be a clear #3. In other words he would just muddy the waters. The case with the Browns, Jags, Jets and Texans is not so clear.

          • Yahmule

            I think the Browns are content to keep the setting on tank mode for one more year. The Jags have no excuse. If nothing else, Bortles needs a fire lit under him. The Jets should have signed him as soon as possible, but I doubt Penisy Penison would greenlight it. Houston being in Texas seems like a non-starter, but they’re also the most ethnically diverse city in the country. I think he would be a nice fit there and DeAndre Hopkins would probably drive to San Francisco and personally help him move. He played under Harbaugh, so O’Brien’s grumpy looks will roll gently off his back.

          • Nick

            Now I feel uncool for not seeing the double entendre in the Jets’ owner’s name until you pointed it out.

          • ohiobronco

            The Texans do have a “diverse” GM and a desperate need.

          • Steven_Searls

            I suspect, however, their Romovirus infection will preclude them from considering any other QB option other than injury prone former first string Dallas Cowboy quarterbacks currently on the Cowboys’ roster.

        • Yahmule

          I’m sure a lot of teams have reasons they’re not particularly comfortable with addressing. Such as the knowledge that local law enforcement wherever he signs will throw a massive tantrum and threaten to not work events.

        • PiperAR

          Last year the only QB on the roster was a 7th round draft pick and there was no way of knowing which QB if any would be drafted. Probably still won’t convince fans of other teams when it’s still believed that the under the table deals with TD and Elway were for cheating on the salary cap.

      • Yahmule

        He went into this with his eyes wide open. He told Bay area reporters that he knew this could cost him his career.

        Isn’t it funny that 100% of the people who consider Kap’s peaceful protest to be disloyal to America are fine with a President who’s colluding with a KGB trained murderer?

        • PiperAR

          It’s ok, he’s a Republican.

        • Nick

          If he’s aware of that, then I want to know if going to the CFL is part of his plans if he doesn’t get a deal soon. It would be quite the statement if he lights up the CFL and forces teams to pay attention to his talent.

          • ohiobronco

            The problem is that if he lights it up in the CFL nobody will notice and his body will be shot by the time his CFL contractual commitment is up.

          • Nick

            Well, that’s the rub. If it’s his goal to prove NFL people wrong (and who knows, maybe it isn’t), then there’s going to be clear tradeoffs with that plan, some of which you stated.

        • ohiobronco

          If I crap on your values, you are just being thin skinned and politically correct. If you crap on my values, you are an unpatriotic traitor.

    • The more I think about this, the more I wonder if Kaepernick is saying to himself, “I don’t need football to keep fighting for the causes I believe in.” While Kaep didn’t play an injury-free career, it’s reasonable to say he’s in good health overall and has earned enough money that he can support those causes he champions, and he has enough notoriety to draw attention to said causes.

      While it is troubling NFL teams don’t want anything to do with him, it’s not like Kaepernick needs an NFL team in order to stand up for what he believes in.

      • Nick

        Having a football team will give him a bigger spotlight to shine upon his causes, though. But indeed, it’s up to him.

  • bradley
    • Jeremy

      I wonder what percentage of the draft class is still with the team that drafted them.

    • Nick

      But the 2013 undrafted class still isn’t!

      http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/static/img/fantasy/transparent/200×200/AND163330.png

      It’s amazing how so many of these studies are so lazy in ignoring the category of undrafted players. They’re also very important to building a roster.

      • Jeremy

        One reason is records of undrafted free agents are much harder to find

        • Nick

          Harder, but not impossible–that’s why I call it lazy.

          • Jeremy

            So if I wanted to see the undrafted free agents for the dolphins in 2012 where would I go?

          • Nick

            I’d start by going here and Ctrl+F “CF12”:

            http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/MIA

            This isn’t very practical if you’re covering all 32 teams, but very doable for just one team.

    • PiperAR

      Williams and Webster are more of a product of Elway’s thriftiness than a reflection of poor drafting. For talent on the level of Williams and Webster, some other team is going to pay more than Denver.

  • bradley
  • bradley
  • LB Jelani jenkins is visiting raiders. He’s bad, so I’d endorse that signing.

    • Nick

      I think you mean Jelani Jenkins. The mixup is understandable, though–both went to Florida at the same time, and as such had to wear jerseys that said “Ja. Jenkins” and “Je. Jenkins”.

      • I did, I corrected it straight away. Posted pre-caffeine, haha

    • Nick
  • For any of you pro wrestling fans who grew up watching the territories back in the 1980s, you’re gonna love Southpaw Regional Wrestling.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4RFCRpp9P0

  • S Smith
  • RSH, Esq.

    We have discussed Toledo tight end Michael Roberts quite a bit here. He’s a better receiver and more athletic than he’s given credit for.

    https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/843718289545019392

    • Yahmule

      Nice body control for a huge man. He was the small school giant who captured everyone’s imagination before being eclipsed by Shaheen.

      #DraftTwoTightEnds

    • InSiemianWeTrust

      Pretty acrobatic for a 270 lb TE.

  • Yahmule

    I’m not going to bother linking to it, but Joe Thomas’ agent is still trying to make Thomas to the Broncos happen. Unfortunately, he’s still talking about 20 and he can tell that story walking.

    • John

      I did see that. The article that I saw seemed like clickbait.

  • ohiobronco
    • Yahmule

      People have walked away with some incredible stuff with little more than a confident attitude.

  • InSiemianWeTrust

    Josh Jones could be a SS on our list. Has ridonculous combine measurables (4.41 at @220 lbs, top performer everywhere else), and could grow into an elite player/TJ Ward replacement. I don’t think he’s NFL ready from an instincts standpoint, but would be good value in the 4th. One thing I dislike is that it looks like if he thinks a teammate has the tackle, he turns down his motor, rather than finishing strong. This is not mentioned on his draft profile, for what it’s worth. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/josh-jones?id=2558119

    Taking down Njoku at 2:40.
    http://draftbreakdown.com/video/josh-jones-vs-miami-2016/

    • Yahmule

      He was available in round seven of that draft simulator recently. I saw a mock that had him going end of round one. You’re not going to find a wider range of opinions than that. ;~)

      • InSiemianWeTrust

        Wow. That’s a crazy range. I think he was used out of position. On film he splits time between SS and FS. I think he is best as a “see ball, get ball” SS, similar to TJ Ward. I want to see him blitzing frequently, and playing around the line of scrimmage as a hybrid LBer. 1:52 is a good example of this. Josh Jone’s backpeddle is dogshit.

        • Yahmule

          It was probably more about the people running that draft sim getting a little lazy. Also, I would hate to try and sort out all this talent @ defensive back this year. It seems like an impossible job.

      • drewthorn

        I’ve seen similar with Chad Hansen.

        • Yahmule

          Had some crazy players pop up @ 51, too. OJ probably the most unlikely.

          • DCJ1

            I suppose it is possible that OJ will be paroled after the mandatory 9 years minimum his sentence imposed, but the man will be 70 years old and will probably have lost a step or two…

          • Nick

            We need OJ Howard to light things up either with the Broncos or an NFC team to reclaim his initials in a better light. #MakeTheOJInitialsGreatAgain

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            “I’m not black, I’m OJ!”

  • Yahmule

    People now just automocking Bolles to us.

    Disqus is funky. Had to get in through Twitter.

    • GrizzlyB

      Well, duh. He’s a perfect fit for our scheme.

      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        Yeah, that’s funny. A perfect fit for the ineffective scheme from last year which basically got the entire offensive coaching staff fired.

        • GrizzlyB

          We like our tackles fast, and we like them flimsy!

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            Hey man, if they’re ever lucky enough not to get rag-dolled by the DE or OLB lined up over them, they can really get up to the second level!

            Jokes aside, I like Bolles as a pass blocker but the lack of power in the run game is a real concern.

          • RSH, Esq.

            He just looks nothing like a Mike McCoy or Jeff Davidson type of offensive tackle.

          • PiperAR

            Yeah, Mars was saying he had the physical tools to stay in front of the pass rusher. That’s great. We don’t have to worry about him getting beat around the corner. And while he might not get tossed aside by bull rushers, I’m confident he can stay in front of them and either be run over or driven on top of the QB.

          • bradley

            And cheap.

    • Steven_Searls

      Well, considering the accuracy of most mock drafts I for one am deeply concerned!

    • InSiemianWeTrust

      Would you say they are mocking our T situation, with Bolles? Derp.

      • Yahmule

        They better get in line behind a gazillion Bronco fans.

    • ohiobronco

      Cecil said on Friday that Bolles/Ram have basically the same scouting grade as Sambrailo did. IOW, looking for a 2017 OT starter in the draft is not a good idea.

      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        I like Lammey, but that’s just not accurate. Sambrailo was a reach at the end of the second round. Both Ramczyk and Bolles are better prospects, though Bolles has similar flaws to Sambrailo.

        • Yahmule

          Sambrailo started 42 games in college. Way more than Ram and Bolles combined. That should count for something.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            I can’t speak for the scouting community, but in my personal opinion there is a wide gap between Ramczyk and Bolles’ grades and that of Ty Sambrailo.

          • Yahmule

            I’m just looking at their respective track records as prospects and Ty was a more dependable player. Instead of wondering if he cares about football, which have been knocks on Ram and Bolles, Sambrailo gave up a career as a downhill skier and potential Olympian to focus on football.

  • SterlingMalloryArcher

    Don’t remember if anyone shared Chad Reuter’s four-round mock last week, but he’s done a pretty good job of addressing the Broncos’ needs.

    Round 1: T Garrett Bolles, Utah
    Round 2: CB Adoree’ Jackson, USC
    Round 3: WR ArDarius Stewart, Alabama
    Round 3: DL D.J. Jones, Ole Miss
    Round 4: LB Anthony Walker, Jr., Northwestern

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000793200/article/reuter-fourround-mock-draft-30-three-receivers-in-top-10

    • drewthorn

      …and was a little cocky about it, throwing away Denver’s first pick like that.

      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        Ramczyk, McCaffrey and Reddick were still on the board, too. I really don’t see Denver taking Bolles at 20 in that scenario.

        • drewthorn

          So this Taylor Moton fella seems like a potential round two alternative to the OT early or bust philosophy, although the NFL.com tracker doesn’t seem quite that bullish. In fact, they don’t see him as an OT.

          http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/taylor-moton?id=2557871

          I swear I’ve seen him elsewhere as an OT sleeper.

          You like him?

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            I like Moton. I posted some game film of him late last week, along with some from Troy’s Antonio Garcia. I think Moton has a chance to play RT or G in the NFL, but probably not LT. Garcia, on the other hand, looks like a LT, but needs time to build that NFL body we’re always talking about.

    • Yahmule

      I adore Adoree’ so much, I could probably sign off on this draft. Also think Walker is crazy undervalued.

      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        I like both of those picks as well. Not so much Bolles, and I’d rather see a different choice at WR. They could have had Curtis Samuel in the 2nd or Taywan Taylor in the 3rd. Hell, I like Carlos Henderson more than Stewart for the Broncos’ specific need in the slot, and I don’t think he had him getting selected through four rounds. D.J. Jones is completely under my radar (I’ve ranked 19 DEs and 15 NTs, though some of those are the same players).

        • Yahmule

          I would just love Jackson so much. Adding those game changing returns to the defense we have would be amazing. One of my fantasy scenarios is CMC @ 20 and Jackson @ 51.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            I guess it wouldn’t hurt to draft two returners, but picking one of those two somewhat reduces the need to pick the other. If McCaffrey is the selection in the first, I may prefer to see them target a different CB.

          • Yahmule

            I just like the idea if one is gassed or nursing a minor injury, we maintain that pressure on the coverage unit.

          • drewthorn

            What are your thoughts on Chris Samuel, who I’ve seen forwarded as McC like ultra back?

            http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/curtis-samuel?id=2558066

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            He’s my #4 overall WR and my #2 slot WR (behind only Ross). If he’s there in the second I would love to see the Broncos go after him, provided we don’t take Ross or McCaffrey in round 1.

  • Nick
    • Nick
      • Yahmule

        Disregard the enormous team logo at the top of the propaganda letter and go about your business, citizens.

      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        Uhhh, how is that not perceived as team letterhead? That’s way out of line.

      • Just like Bill McCartney wearing a CU Buffs hat when he talked about political issues wasn’t perceived as representing CU.

    • drewthorn

      I can’t say I’ve put a lot of thought or research into this, but it looks like Gorsuch is more judicial intellectual than partisan high priest to me. He is probably going to be a big disappointment to the whack jobs that unconsciously rub themselves when they utter his name.

      • Nick

        No one can be sure of how he’ll rule on every single case, but from I’ve read the Scalia clone takes seem to be the most accurate. That said, Scalia did occasionally have a libertarianish streak that did disappoint the whack jobs that you cite.

        • drewthorn

          It just seems Trump and the currently GOP dominated government could have done much, much worse. For example, Gorsuch does have a track record of defending RELIGOUS freedom, which is a whole different and very different cat than CHRISTIAN freedom, and more importantly, the notion of Christian supremacy.

          • Nick

            I agree. It appears that Trump does not care that much about the Supreme Court as compared to his typical GOP peers, and was more than happy to cede ground here in exchange for political chips elsewhere. And that would be good–I’d easily take a clone of Scalia or any of the current justices on the Court over a pure Trumpist justice.

          • Yahmule

            In the way that being slammed in the knee with a bat would be preferable to being shot in the nuts.

      • I tend to agree. There are several occasions in which Gorsuch has ruled against certain issues that make up the GOP platform, at least a couple that GOP leadership holds dear to their hearts.

        The real issue with justices being appointed to the Supreme Court these days, though, deals with whether or not the Court is going to overturn Roe v. Wade. Not to downplay that issue, but the Court’s scope covers a lot more than abortion, yet that’s all people ever seem to want to debate regarding the Court these days.

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          I was just typing the same thing. As long as he’s anti-women’s right to choose, he will satisfy the base.

        • He shouldn’t even be up for a vote, is more my issue. That seat had an appointment last year from the previous president and should’ve been approved.

          • Nick

            The Senate GOP gambled that they could hold up that vacancy until after the election to get it in their favor. It easily could have backfired on them–had Clinton won, she very well could have very well nominated someone to the left of Garland. But they decided to go big or go home, and they went big.

            I also think Democrats would have done the same thing if John Paul Stevens or Ruth Bader Ginsburg died in February 2008. The stakes at SCOTUS are simply very high.

          • RSH, Esq.

            Both parties engage in this political gamesmanship. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1SUn0zTGUQ

          • PiperAR

            Joe Biden was talking about a hypothetical situation, not a presently occurring one.
            While I still wouldn’t approve of a stonewall, there’s a big difference between late June and early January.

          • RSH, Esq.

            And what do you think Biden would have done had the hypothetical he laid out became reality?

          • I agree Garland deserved a hearing. But my belief from there is that the Senate then casts their votes, thumbs up or down, and the result you get is the result you get.

            And it would not surprise me to see the Senate majority vote thumbs down for the sake of doing so.

            That doesn’t mean Garland shouldn’t have gotten a hearing… he should have. You follow the process, you don’t make it up like McConnell did.

            ETA: And, yes, it was no different when Joe Biden wanted to wait in 1992. Hold the hearing, cast your vote, let the chips fall where they may.

          • PiperAR

            There was no Supreme Court vacancy in 1992, Joe Biden was speaking strictly hypothetically.

          • Nick

            The lack of a hearing didn’t bug me, because the GOP made it clear within minutes of Scalia’s death that they weren’t going to confirm anyone. I think what happened was better than serially voting down whatever candidates Obama gave them.

          • drewthorn

            This might be a moment where Democrats can reclaim some high ground. If Dems block this out of spite (as it will be spun), they’re playing right into Trump’s hands.

    • Yahmule
      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        Elway is a conservative white man. They are allowed to weigh in on any and all political discussions, regardless of their qualifications to do so.

        • RSH, Esq.

          As is anyone else with a Twitter or social media account of any background or political persuasion these days.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            But if they’re liberals, like Mark Ruffalo or Meryl Streep, they get publicly reprimanded, sometimes by the President of the United States himself. That’s unlikely to happen for Elway, at least not by anyone with any clout. Sure, run-of-the-mill citizens may call him out on Twitter, but you won’t see the “STICK TO SPORTS” crowd chiding Elway for this, nor will hordes of law enforcement officer refuse to work Bronco games as a result.

          • RSH, Esq.

            I understand your point. Let’s just make this a whole lot easier then by allowing only those with law degrees and lawyers to opine about United States Supreme Court nominations. 🙂

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            I’ll agree to that if you’re on board with my cause to replace roughly 1/3 of the attorneys in the legislature with engineers and scientists. 😉

          • Yahmule

            I would be fine with just replacing them with actual human beings. Not three thousand dollar suits stuffed with lobbyist cash.

          • Yahmule

            If you’re Colin Kaepernick, there’s the added bonus of getting called a ______ a million times while people threaten to murder your family.

    • InSiemianWeTrust

      Should not have a Broncos letterhead.

    • ElwayIsGod7

      I believe in the separation of football and politics.

    • Lonestar47

      Why the condescending comment. The guy has an impeccable record. Follows the law as it is written and does not seem to change the law via judicial overreach.

      The judges in the third branch of our governement are there there to rule on the laws that are passed by congress (2nd branch) and signed into law by the executive branch being the first branch of our Government.

      I just do not understand how anybody can not understand why it should be any other way.

      It is way the country was set up and the way it should be Period.

      • Nick

        No condescension at all. Elway’s been a clear Republican for a long time, Gorsuch is also a Colorado native, hence why Elway endorsing Gorsuch for SCOTUS is “not terribly surprising”.

        And there should be no issue with Gorsuch’s record. Of course, there are probably thousands of people in the United States who have a record that can equal Gorsuch’s. The key question is whether you think someone with Gorsuch’s ideology should be on SCOTUS. If you on the right, you’d likely answer yes, if you’re on the left, you’d likely answer no. Simple as that.

        • Lonestar47

          Not living in the Denver area any longer I really don’t know if local politics. So thanks for the info about Elway. That said.

          I would find it hard to believe that anyone would like to have a Supreme on the court that did not Intervet law as it is written PERIOD . Since SCOTUS is not part of the law making portion of the US. Other than declaring a law unconstitutional there should be no law making from that court, for that matter NO COURT.

  • Nick

    Boooooo. If this does happen at least it will end on a dramatic and highly favorable moment.

    https://twitter.com/MarkMaske/status/843848941502414852

    • GrizzlyB

      I also heard that they’re discussing a rule that would eliminate the most dangerous football play — forcibly impacting another player, and/or taking him to the ground. And it’s high time, I say!

      • T. Jensen

        Flags for everyone!

    • drewthorn

      ….a fella could get hurt doing such a thing. It’s all fun and games until somebody gets their spine put out.

    • Yahmule

      You know, whatever makes them happy. Anything that diverts their attention from explicitly intimidating neurologists is a positive thing, right?

  • Nick
    • I suppose the NFL would argue that preseason games don’t go to OT enough to justify removing it.

      Then again, that’s not really an argument for keeping something in place.

      • Yahmule

        Be the kid trying to make a team who scores late and ties the game and can’t understand why the veterans look pissed off. ;~)

    • ohiobronco

      It should be a no brainer to eliminate preseason OT. The only possible reason not to is that ownership wants to somewhat maintain the pretext that they are real games so they can charge full price.

      They should also eliminate all timeouts and replays.

      • Yahmule

        Replays yes. I would keep the timeouts, painful as they are. I like the ten minute quarter idea.

        • ohiobronco

          I wouldn’t shorten regulation. I am one of the few that thinks the four full length games are worthwhile. It’s the closest thing the league has to a developmental league.

          • Yahmule

            If I thought about it more, I would probably be against it, too. Definitely not in the crowd who wants to cut preseason to two games or eliminate it completely. Without a four game preseason, the Broncos probably cut Mecklenburg in 1983. Two sacks in the final preseason game sealed his roster spot.

            They used to play six pre-season games and out in Los Angeles, you had to watch them @ 11:30 at night on some local channel. The league used to clean up, too. Many of these games were contested @ neutral sites where the football hungry yokels would line up to see fifth stringers crack heads. Teams played as many as 30 of these neutral site games a year. They did this crap until the regular season expanded to 16 games in 1978.

          • ohiobronco

            Football hungry yokels? Like all of use here discussing rules committee proposals in March?

          • Yahmule

            I embrace my vices and my yokel status.

          • Nick
          • RSH, Esq.
          • Yahmule

            One branch on my family tree has several Cleti swinging from it.

          • DCJ1

            My wife’s family has a few of those as well. Problem is I’d hesitate to call it an actual tree as opposed to a briar thicket…

    • RSH, Esq.

      I would keep overtime at 15 minutes in the regular season and eliminate it altogether in the preseason. To me, more regular season ties are a bad thing.

      • ohiobronco

        Regular season ties increase the number of possible season records and reduce the need for arbitrary standings tiebreakers.

        • Yahmule

          Dolphins/Jets tie in ’81 cost us a playoff berth. Not that I’m still bitter. A pair of 2-14 teams gift wrapped both wild cards for that crap division. Dolphins/Jets both one and done in the playoffs. Bills out as soon as they played someone who wasn’t the Jets. Fuck all those teams.

          http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1981/

          • John

            The Bucs also cost Denver a playoff berth in Week 15 of that season. That day, the 8-6 Chiefs lost 17-7 at home to the overachieving Dolphins (a strange loss, and quite possibly the beginning of the end of the Levy era in KC), and the Bucs had a chance to beat the 8-6 Chargers at home. They had the ball in SD territory with about 3 minutes or so to play (up 22-21. They were trying to wrap up the NFC Central). However, they threw a stupid, meaningless pass. Jimmie Giles lost it in the air, and SD got the turnover. They went down and scored the game winning points on a Benirschke FG.

            If they would have lost, Denver would have wrapped up the West later that day at home against the Seahawks.

          • Yahmule

            Good stuff, John. If not for all that happening, Miami and San Diego don’t have that classic playoff game and Kellen Winslow doesn’t make the Hall of Fame.

    • PiperAR

      Eliminate OT in preseason, regular season, AND the Super Bowl. No sudden death OT in playoff games.

      • Jeremy

        What happens if the super bowl ends in a tie?

        • PiperAR

          Same thing as when college bowl games used to end in ties.

          And coaches at the end of regulation have to decide to go for the tie or go for the win. See Osborne, Tom Orange Bowl.

  • drewthorn

    So Madden Franchise mode, among other details, simulates an active football media, and this was the headline kicking off my current 2019 off season: “AGAINST ALL ODDS: Fans in shock over Browns mind blowing Super Bowl win.”

    P.S. In three straight super scientific simulations now, the Ice T led Denver Broncos have won SB 53. That is so far outside the margin of error that many of you owe McLovin Siemian an earnest and heartfelt apology.

    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      In my current franchise I couldn’t get TS or PL to develop worth a shit, so I traded up to draft a QB in 2019.

      • drewthorn

        I’ve never had much luck with Lynch, but Siemian tends towards boom or bust.
        Cyber Trevor really likes the NE offense.

      • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

        It’s hard to develop guys this year.

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          No kidding. I keep thinking I’m doing something wrong. I have young players all across the OL who were in the high 70s to low 80s as rookies and they’ve all regressed.

          • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

            Really? That is weird. Do you take a lot of sacks or something? To be able to draft guys in the high 70s and low 80s would lead me to believe that you hit on some pretty good dudes with higher development, so it wouldn’t make sense that they would go backwards.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            Development is “normal” across the board (which can only be discerned while progressing the players manually from what I can tell, which is dumb. Should be viewable among player attributes). I think it’s just that this is the first year I’ve played Madden in a while so I’m not exactly lighting it on fire offensively. It also might have something to do with all the bourbon I consume while gaming.

            ETA: Yes, hit big on some linemen (at least I thought so) in the draft. LT, two RTs and a C who I converted to LG because he was rated higher there and Paradis is appropriately rated fairly high. I’ve not had such luck on the DL or at LB, and especially at CB.

          • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

            I’ve found that a good Sativa, and Red Wine, really open up my running lanes, and surprising help with my down field vision.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            So stop chasing the bourbon with indica, then?

          • Royalwithcheese

            You’re making me want to get back into gaming!

          • cjfarls

            I’m still plugging along with Madden14… and before that Madden07 and NFL2k5.

          • Royalwithcheese

            I started on Madden 94 on Sega Genesis. So, yeah.

          • drewthorn

            Yeah, a CB that will reasonably develop is very rare. I’m not sure overall rating is important, though. A dumb ass wth adequate speed, good acceleration, and decent coverage ratings is plenty effective. I often use P.J. Williams to mitigate Talib’s decline, and while his overall never breaks 72, he is pretty solid.

            Ignore the OL early (or stick to late round gems) and draft a super fast slot guy and one those freak show vertical TE’s, and your QB will perform much better. That is my experience, at least. (an FA TE gem is Darren Waller, and Marquise Goodwin will outperform Taylor Gabriel if you to add speed the FA route.)

    • Jeremy

      When does Tom Brady retire in these simulations?

      • drewthorn

        He always retires at the beginning of the ’17 offseason.

        • Jeremy

          I can dream…

  • RSH, Esq.
    • Carsonic

      I hope he didn’t yell “GOD” like that. That would be more scary than encouraging, in my opinion.

      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        Ha! I’m guessing this Clif Marshall fella often goes all-caps on GOD. Here’s his description on Twitter: “A sinner saved by grace, whose goal in life is to know Christ & to make Christ known.” In my estimation, Peko could have helped feed those homeless people in the name of Buddha, Satan or Santa Claus and it would have been just as admirable, but I don’t think Clif would agree.

        • Clockwork Orange

          Oh, so he was a total shithead most of his life, but that’s all washed away because he’s found jeebus. Yeah, War Machine is trying that angle, too.

          You can use the same joke with born again Christians that you can with Vegans. You know how you can tell someone is a born again Christian? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.

  • S Smith

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-5-players-who-should-see-increased-opportunity-in-2017/

    Shane Ray should see more playing time this year. Hope to improve on the improvement last year.

  • InSiemianWeTrust

    PFF’s first in depth QB draft ranking.

    Trubisky, Watson, Mahomes, Kizer, Peterman. What they fail to mention is my man Peterman is the only QB up top to play in a pro style offense ;).
    https://www.profootballfocus.com/ranking-the-top-10-qb-draft-prospects/

    • Also makes the best catalog of those guys imho

  • SterlingMalloryArcher

    Cameron Wolfe on the projected depth chart with the current roster.

    http://www.denverpost.com/2017/03/20/broncos-projected-depth-chart-2017/

    I still see Kerr as a NT more than a DE, but he’s got him penciled in at “DE2”, which I would probably call RDE. He then mentions a need to draft another NT. Now I see it more like LDE Wolfe, NT D. Peko, RDE Crick right now, with Kerr providing depth. I could see Peko sliding over to RDE when Kerr comes in at NT as well. In that case, I think it’s more likely they draft a DE than a NT, but someone who can play both would be ideal.

    I think he’s also got Ronald Leary and Max Garcia switched, as he lists Leary at RG. I think Leary may play LG and Garcia RG. Leary at LG could potentially help make up for a developing youngster or limited veteran at LT.

    • InSiemianWeTrust

      Sphincter tone increased significantly after seeing Donald Steph as the starting LT.

      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        I can’t say anyone else would prove to be a better option… Schofield, maybe? I think he probably should just put a “?” at LT for now. Or “TBD.”

  • RSH, Esq.

    Spring Equinox Mock Draft. Christian McCaffrey (Jim Irsay enacts revenge against John Elway with this Colts selection), Dalvin Cook, Corey Davis, Reuben Foster, David Njoku, John Ross, and Jonathan Allen all were gone before I selected. Somehow, Leonard Fournette lasted all the way until the forty-third selection.

    20: R1P20 TE O.J. HOWARD, ALABAMA
    51: R2P19 CB TEEZ TABOR, FLORIDA
    82: R3P18 3-4 DE MONTRAVIUS ADAMS, AUBURN
    101: R3P37 ILB ANTHONY WALKER JR., NORTHWESTERN
    127: R4P20 OT JULIE’N DAVENPORT, BUCKNELL
    177: R5P33 SLOT WR KD CANNON, BAYLOR (Possible punt and kick returner)
    203: R6P19 NT STEVIE TU’IKOLOVATU, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
    238: R7P20 3-4 OLB TASHAWN BOWER, LSU
    252: R7P34 G KAREEM ARE, FLORIDA STATE
    253: R7P35 RB TAQUAN MIZZELL, VIRGINIA (Change of pace back with kick and punt return capabilities)

    • Sparks

      Is TU’IKOLOVATU that monstrous NT for USC?

    • ElwayIsGod7

      If we pick Adam’s at 82 his nickname will be Sacktraviois.

      • RSH, Esq.

        I knew that you would like that War Eagle selection.

        • ElwayIsGod7

          Monty was a beast…quick 1st step! Needs to be more consistent.

          • RSH, Esq.

            I am sure you hated the Howard selection, but I think that Mike McCoy, Bill Musgrave, and Geep Chryst will find ways to get him the ball which will also help our wide receivers a great deal.

          • ElwayIsGod7

            I could hold my nose for howard…he was underutilized by $aban most of the time.

  • RSH, Esq.
    • cjfarls

      Interesting, given my perception that the FA talent this year is not up to the level of prior years.
      Extra cap space explains a lot of it, but I don’t really see any/many “gamechanger” players in FA this year. L. Bell is great, but I don’t see anyone at the level of a Peyton Manning (unrealistic expectation), Ware, Talib, Ward, etc. that was available.
      So a 15% increase seems odd, even if the cap went up 10%.

  • InSiemianWeTrust

    Familiar names at positions of need. First 2 rounds felt like absolute highway robbery. May be my favorite draft I’ve done yet. At 3/18, I was choosing between Hansen, Samuel, and Godwin. I think I picked the wrong guy. I’m not big on Samuel.

    20: R1P20 TE O.J. HOWARD ALABAMA
    51: R2P19 CB CHIDOBE AWUZIE COLORADO
    82: R3P18 WR CURTIS SAMUEL OHIO STATE
    101: R3P37 S JOSH JONES NC STATE
    127: R4P20 OT CHAD WHEELER USC
    177: R5P33 TE GEORGE KITTLE IOWA
    203: R6P19 LB JAYON BROWN UCLA
    238: R7P20 RB JOE WILLIAMS UTAH
    252: R7P34 DL STEVIE TU’IKOLOVATU USC
    253: R7P35 CB JALEN MYRICK MINNESOTA

    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      I like that Samuel pick. I also like Godwin, but probably not that early. I can’t see Howard falling to 20, but if he does I’m on board with that. 2/19 seems a little early for Awuzie, but I do see him going on Day 2.

      • InSiemianWeTrust

        I just don’t think Samuel is a natural catcher. All the tape I’ve seen has him bobbling and dropping balls. He’s no doubt a phenomenal athlete; I’m just not sure how successfully he will make the transition to WR.

        The past week or so I’ve been seeing Awuzie mocked into the low first round..

    • RSH, Esq.

      I like the Howard, Samuel, Wheeler, Brown, Tu’ikolovatu, and Myrick selections. I am not a fan of Joe Williams. Williams has serious fumbling issues; he lost six fumbles over 289 carries at Utah. He runs too tall and is not a patient runner. He is also a non-factor as a third-down option. He rarely catches passes and is not committed to blocking.

      • InSiemianWeTrust

        You’re right about Joe not being a 3rd down back. I think I was sitting in the 7th round, realizing I didn’t have a RB. I thought Joe had the highest upside of the backs available. Given that CJ and Booker can easily handle 3rd down, I thought Joe’s upside was worth the risk.

  • RSH, Esq.
    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      “Per source” strikes me as a meaningless phrase if the source is unidentified. Might as well just say “Jets are signing Josh McCown to a one year deal. I’m not making this shit up.”

      • RSH, Esq.

        And per sourxe is even less credible.

      • Jeremy

        Isn’t that how they usually report breaking news, and it’s right the majority of the time?

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          I’m not questioning the validity of the report, just why it’s necessary to say “per source.” Why not just say “Jets signing Josh McCown?”

          • Nick

            “Per source” has become Twitter shorthand for “per a person familiar with the situation not authorized to speak publicly”. I think it’s important to add that to state where you’re getting your info from.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            But “Source with knowledge…” doesn’t tell us anything about where he’s getting his information from, either. I guess it just seems unnecessary.

          • Nick

            …isn’t that the point of anonymous sources, that they can’t divulge where their information is coming from?

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            Right, I’m just saying the fact that the news came from a source is implied. What’s the other option? That the reporter is fabricating it? So the words “per source” don’t seem necessary to me. Clearly not a big deal either way.

          • GrizzlyB

            It’s so that if he publishes bunk info, he can just pull a Benjamin Allbright and blame the source for lying to him.

          • Snatch Mouth

            Total bs concur…just say the source or dont. Meaningless

      • When it comes to free agent signings, “per source” is code word for “per the player’s agent.”

        As for why they use the code word… the same reason they use any other code word: Because then they won’t get all these scoops before the teams officially announce stuff and then won’t be able to feed the craving people have for instant information.

    • S Smith
    • Prater2Beadles4Six
  • RSH, Esq.

    Spring football camp in Italy sounds fun.

    https://twitter.com/psmyth12/status/843964769170345985

  • RSH, Esq.
    • Royalwithcheese

      Retirement?

      • Nick

        I’ve said multiple times this offseason that this is an option for him that makes a lot of sense.

      • This would not surprise me. He’s had multiple injuries the past few seasons and it wouldn’t surprise me if retirement has crossed his mind.

    • orangeandblueaussie

      I’m surprised he isn’t brought in to compete in Jacksonville. They are a half decent quarterback away from the playoffs

      • Royalwithcheese

        Stop giving them ideas!

        • orangeandblueaussie

          🙂

      • G Mik

        And you think Cutler would make them better because…..

        • Royalwithcheese

          Say what you will, but Cutler is better than Bortles.

          • G Mik

            That was tongue in cheek. At the same time your QB is supposed to be your strongest leader, or certainly one of your top. I would be surprised if Bortles isn’t more respected in his locker room than Cutler has been in Chicago.

        • orangeandblueaussie

          Because he is a top 20 quarterback and only 2 years ago he had a very good season under Gase

          • G Mik

            So he’s had 2 good seasons in 10? I was really half-joking but now that it’s a discussion I’m truly not sure he would be any help. There is no arguing he has more talent than the majority of NFL QBs, Bortles def included, but if that’s the case why hasn’t Cutler done more and been more consistent. Being a good QB is a lot more than having a better arm than John Elway.

          • orangeandblueaussie

            I think it is unfair to say he has only had 2 good seasons. And if I thought he was great I’d be spruiking him to the Broncos. But you have the worst quarterback in the league on your roster and there is a half decent QB available. Add to that the fact that the rest of your roster is beginning to look intimidating. Get someone who can QB to compete with Bortles.
            And you know, you could even take a look at Watson in the first round.

        • RSH, Esq.

          Maybe Cutler needs some tough love from Tom Coughlin and Doug Marrone. 🙂

  • Royalwithcheese

    Why aren’t the Texans ever mentioned as a landing spot for Jimmy G?

    • InSiemianWeTrust

      That would make too much sense. They also lack the draft capital and BOB might have a short leash right now.

    • drewthorn

      I imagine they’re a little shy about throwing all caution into the wind right about now.

    • Andrew

      I think it wouldn’t say much about what NE really thinks of him if they were willing to trade him to an AFC team with an elite defense.

    • ohiobronco

      Same reason they didn’t draft Carr. They fear the heat from looking like they are making the same mistake twice.

    • Nick

      It should be noted that O’Brien and Garoppolo weren’t on the Patriots at the same time.

  • S Smith

    Assuming that the Broncos don’t get Romo, would you welcome Kaepernick to the quarterback competition in Denver?

    • Nick

      I’d want to first ask Mike McCoy if he’d fit better in his offense than Siemian or Lynch would.

    • Rhett Rothberg

      A guy whose been to the SB over some nobodies? Yup

      • Yahmule

        Rex Grossman still only 36. :~)

    • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

      I would rather have Jay Culter so my jersey would be relevant again.

    • Snatch Mouth

      Here’s a better idea

      https://youtu.be/1vjpBu2zvng

    • Lonestar47

      Not only no but
      Hell no.

    • Steven_Searls

      Yes.

      • Yahmule

        Yes, but largely to antagonize the creepier segment of the fan base.