• Nick

    In case you didn’t see it late last night: Dekoda Watson is a 49er:

    https://twitter.com/dekodawatson57/status/842945876616142848

    This signing also opens up a 3rd round comp pick for Okung. Broncos would have to refrain from signing more CFAs to keep it.

    https://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/#afc-west-2018

    • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

      Sad for us, good for him.

      • RSH, Esq.

        And may be good for us according to the incomparable salary cap and compensatory draft picks wizard, Nick.

        • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

          I will just have to trust him, because frankly, the process of compensatory picks hurt my head.

          • Nick

            That’s one reason why I built a program for the formula, so it can do the cancellation crunching for us, and save some brain power for other things.

  • bradley

    Legwold on the Broncos cap situation
    http://www.espn.com/blog/denver-broncos/post/_/id/25573/broncos-have-used-about-half-of-available-cap-space-in-free-agency
    He estimates 13.5 million available, after accounting for rookie contracts

    • PiperAR

      Hey Tony, it’s John. Hey, I was looking at our cap, and the best I’m going to be able to guarantee is $8 million. It’s not? That’s too bad, but I understand. I’m sure you’ll love Houston and you and Bill will get along fabulously‚Äč.

  • Rhett Rothberg

    The lesson today kids is: You’re better off punching a woman or sexually assaulting one in the NFL than you are taking a knee for the anthem… Happy punching!!

    http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/03/17/colin-kaepernick-update-some-teams-genuinely-hate-him/

    • drewthorn

      Ray Rice would probably disagree, but it is pretty pathetic that NFL teams and other institutions choose to be punitive when players exercise their constitutional freedoms.

      It’s hard to tell what is what with Kaep. He isn’t very good, and he allegedly chooses not to mix with his teammates. A guy like that probably isn’t worth the veteran minimum as he has a better chance of causing harm than good.

      • Rhett Rothberg

        It’s an interesting analysis. Brandon Marshall did it, but no one knows who he is. He also did it in a little less polarizing manner.

        As far as level of play goes, not sure I agree. He had another solid year last year on a terrible team and his past success speaks for itself.

        Funny thing is, given Elway’s conservative leanings, you wonder if that will bias him to the point he bypasses a guy who is probably available at really good value….

        As far as not mixing with teammates. He’s probably a bit of an introvert. Good for him…

        • drewthorn

          I make no judgement on his social skills per se. But introverted is probably widely regarded as a ding for pretty much any leadership position in any industry.

          Vet minimum may be strong, but I suspect Kaep wants an ass load more than I’d personally like to see Denver paying. I see no visual evidence that he is making any effort to suitably clean up his game.

        • Jeremy

          I think the said situations it usually just boils down to marginal players will be punished for controversy much more than top level players (whether that’s sexual assault, domestic violence or kneeling dealing the national anthem). You commented on the article about the growing financial divide between mid and top range players. Teams view mid-range players as a dime dozen, so if one is causing trouble, why bother?

          Do you really think Kaep would be more sought after if he had a serious domestic violence charge on his roster rather than if he had kneeled for the national anthem?

          For the record, I think the “controversy” around Kaep and the kneeling is completely over-blown. But I think it’s incredibly lazy to say, “You’re better off punching a woman or sexually assaulting one in the NFL than you are taking a knee for the anthem”

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            I agree. It’s hard, because for us fans, it’s a game, with teams we root for. But for the owners, it’s still a business. If a guy is going to do something that impacts the bottom line (i.e. scare off some of the fanbase), they’ll dump him…unless..he counteracts that by being really, really good. Afterall, as long as Big Ben wins, fans and owners will often overlook when he does bad things in bars.

            For Kaep, kneeling was a deathblow to his career simply because he’s not good enough. You can say he has good skills, and led his team to the championship before, but did he elevate that niners team the last few years? No, they sucked, and he was the QB, so some of the blame is going to naturally fall on him. Now, it would be interesting if say Brady, especially say a year or two ago (when he was still in his prime) did that. If Brady kneeled, would he have been blackballed…? Come on.

            For me, personally, I disagreed with his decision to kneel, but I do think it was his right to do so. I personally think he would have been better off using his celebrity to draw attention to the issue in a way that didn’t turn a lot of people off regardless of what actual message he was trying to make. I think his method to draw attention to the issue unfortunately detracted/distracted from his message. By kneeling, he made the issue about kneeling instead of about racial injustice. If your method of delivery detracts from your message, that’s not too effective a message. But again, ineffective or not, it’s his right to do so.

            It’s too bad’s the league’s real celebrities don’t appear to be willing to use their celebrity to publicly take a stand on issues. I’m not advocating they too kneel (although that would have been interesting, at least), but at least coming out publicly and saying something would be impressive. Alas…

          • Yahmule

            Michael Jordan, long time contributor to liberal causes on why he rarely speaks on social issues: “Republicans buy shoes, too”

            And, I suppose if you’re cool with kids working long hours sewing products bearing your name and likeness, this kind of mental compartmentalization becomes second nature.

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            Exactly. And it’s probably why its best to not build up our “heroes” to be something they’re not. Elway, who is my favorite QB of all time, married a Raiderette, after all.

          • Yahmule

            I was actually really proud of him for marrying a woman his age.

          • Rhett Rothberg

            That’s fair-ish. I am clearly being a little hyperbolic. But, actually yes, I do think that Kaep would be better off with some sort of sexual assault issue in his past than this issue with the kneeling for the anthem.

            Now, to be precise, we would have to argue degrees of assault vs. degrees of “Insufficient patriotism”, but I don’t think it is correct to say there is nothing there…..

          • Yahmule

            Will it be hyperbole when the season starts and he’s been effectively blackballed from the NFL? Is there anybody stupid enough to believe there are 64 quarterbacks in the world better than Colin Kaepernick? How about 100, since that’s generally the number used by the league annually?

            The thing is Kap knew there was a high probability that his protest would end his career and he did it anyway. People can say whatever they want about him, but I doubt there’s a person on this board who would walk away from millions of dollars on principle. Most people can be bought for far less.

      • PiperAR

        I find obligatory oaths of loyalty to the state, either required by law or public pressure, to be un-American. Having the guy next to you in the stands elbow your ribs and say “hey buddy, stand up and show respect to the flag” is about the opposite of what America is supposed to stand for.

        From a purely football perspective, I don’t see a reason to sign him in Denver. I don’t see short term upside that justifies delaying or derailing Siemian or Lynch in the long term. If the league wants to make an example, Kaep is the player to use. There’s cover enough to pretend it’s a football decision, but there’s enough unspoken to make others think twice.

        I’d love to see an NFC contender lose their starter, sign Kaep, and ride him to the Super Bowl. The cherry on top would be if it happened in Green Bay, but it never would.

    • Piglet62

      I think he fails the looks test since he went vegan. He looks slight and like he can’t take punishment.

  • Alaskan
  • drewthorn

    So since I believe (not necessarily correctly) that C McC has jumped Dalvin Cook on many draft boards, I took a harder look at Cook. His highlights are of course quite impressive.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hz_TN_sC0Ww

    Anyway, I did this to see if Cook should be a legitimate contender at 20. I think a natural sentimentality towards McC exists in Broncos Country and while many like the idea of him, any other RB might not generate near the enthusiasm among the faithful. This would not be a position without merit. CJ Anderson is pretty freakin’ good when healthy, and Denver has plenty other fish to fry.

    Anyway, I’d be interested in y’all s opinions on this. One side angle I toy with is the idea that if you’d rather not tie up $25 mil in a QB, then break the current paradigm and find the RB you can build around. Cook seems to have that sort of ability, but he might not be clean enough off the field to be reasonably dependable.

    • FarAwayBroncoFan

      I’d be happy with CMC or Fournette. Cook, no. If he were there, I’d hope they’d grab a TE or something else. Probably irrational, because I only saw him play live once, but I came away thinking, he’s not at all that. I thought the exact same thing when I saw Jeff George (so was discussed in here the other day) in College. I’m probably totally wrong, but….

      • Yahmule

        What we know for sure is a certain percentage of these guys will fail. Two years from now, a handful of these first rounders will be cornerstone players for their teams; several more will enjoy careers of varying degrees of success; others will already be trying to slot themselves on their team’s all time biggest bust list.

    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      The talent is undeniable, but I’d pass based on character (of course I’ve never spoken to him, so that’s probably unfair). Right now I don’t think I’ll have him on my first round board. After a trade down in the first or up in the second, though, I’d probably have to reconsider.

      Cecil Lammey said on Friday that at least one AFC scout told him he’s far more concerned about Cook’s character than he is about Joe Mixon’s, so let that sink in for a minute.

      • drewthorn

        Bob Stoops is effusive in his support for Joe Mixon, so I think maybe lots of guys have bigger character issues.

        The off field stuff definitely complicates Dalvin Cook. If he was impeccable on the character front would you like him at 20.

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          From a BPA standpoint, yes. He’s probably too good to pass up there if not for character issues.

    • GrizzlyB

      I don’t know that CMC has jumped Cook on any boards, though. CBS, who I trust the most, actually has Cook as the #1 RB, one spot ahead of Fournette overall (not that I agree with that, but depending on the team, I could see that being the case based on the fit, as they’re fairly different players), and they are 12 and 11 spots ahead of McCaffrey. If I were to evaluate them purely as runners, I’d say Cook is a 1st and McCaffrey is a 2nd or 3rd rounder. CMC’s versatility in the passing game is what elevates him into first round discussion (and returning ability, maybe — I’m not convinced he’ll be a great returner, but he would probably be the best on our roster right now), but I don’t see too many teams picking before us who have the luxury of taking a role player over an every-down back. As you point out, having Anderson, Booker, and Bibbs there helps, as all three might be better than anybody on the Colts’ or Buccaneers’ rosters (C.J. certainly is).

      That said, if CMC were gone and Cook was still there, as long as no other surprising players dropped, I would probably draft him. Of course, since we never have all the info nor do we know the man, I don’t typically factor in character (or injury) concerns, unless they’re very well-known. Deciding whether or not his checkered past and rumored passe will be problems going forward for him as a professional should be left up to the front office, imo

      • drewthorn

        I think Cook is battling two big strikes: character and somewhat alarming combine numbers. So while I don’t think McC jumped him on skill, he might have total package.

        • InSiemianWeTrust
        • Yahmule

          Mountains of tape outweigh anything he did in shorts and a t-shirt for me.

          There’s some tidbit out there about no running back with certain Combine numbers going in round one, but there’s no full examination of what became of the running backs who dropped out of round one for that reason. Teams get influenced by all kinds of things in this copycat league and these players dropping over a sprint or a three cone drill might represent extremely beneficial buying opportunities. In the draft, perception and reality can be the same thing.

          • GrizzlyB

            Some of his tests were below-average, but I think most of them were OK; people were just expecting them to be great because that’s how he looks on film. Kind of got dinged for being too good. And with his downhill running style that doesn’t involve much stopping and starting or putting moves on defenders, I wouldn’t worry about his 3-cone and shuttle times too much.

          • drewthorn

            I personally believe that the weight of the combine should be low in the overall evaluation. You just never know what teams will make of it.

      • Yahmule

        He’s the next Edgerrin James in virtually every way possible. If we took someone like Bolles over him, I would have to leave the house immediately.

    • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

      If that guy is available at 20 we need to take him. Wow.

  • InSiemianWeTrust
    • The Color Orange

      Shortly after Joseph was talking him up. They’re either preparing the fan base for another year of TS or trying to create a market.

      • GrizzlyB

        Or trying to distract from the only other QB on our roster being Paxton Lynch.

  • Nick
  • RSH, Esq.

    Please don’t look unless you want to get sad; this mock draft has us taking Garrett Bolles at pick 20 while passing on Christian McCaffrey, Zach Cunningham, and Ryan Ramczyk. http://www.drafttek.com/2017-NFL-Mock-Draft-Round1b.asp

    • GrizzlyB

      Particularly concerning that they have Ramczyk ranked 11 spots higher than Bolles, but figure, “Eh, fuck it, give ’em the oversized TE.”

      • DragonPie

        Oversized tight end kind of described Matt Lepsis coming out. That doesn’t mean anything, but isn’t it crazy how good he was for us and how out of nowhere he came from.

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          Right, but even knowing what Lepsis became he wouldn’t be worth the 20th pick.

      • SterlingMalloryArcher

        Ramczyk is really tough to project. Hip surgery, unknown measurables, lack of “love of the game”… Can’t tell if the poor interview rumors are for real or an attempt at by make him slip, but it’s becoming harder and harder to find him on a 1st round mock, for whatever that’s worth.

        • Yahmule

          Isn’t this a strange process? Ramczyk not going through the motions for some team until he sorted out what he wanted to do is considered a negative. Bolles getting kicked out of schools, being arrested and acting like a general fuck up is spun into a redemption story. I’ll bet Ramcyzk’s interviews would have scored higher if he would have spent more time paying lip service to his faithful adherence to some religion and the life changing properties of that association.

        • Yahmule

          If we can drop a couple spots and take a playmaker, maybe bouncing back up from 51 into the low 30’s could net us Ramczyk after all. Best case scenario, IMO. Even if we didn’t trade down, if we could get CMC and Ram for just the cost of 3/82, I would do it in a hot minute.

        • GrizzlyB

          I don’t like either of them, but if I had to take one in the first, it would be Ramczyk, no contest. It sounds like he’ll be rehabbing the hip surgery until training camp, which puts him being any use his rookie year in doubt, but then again a guy who’s played 1 year of FBS football and is as inconsistent in his technique as he is was unlikely to be an instant contributor, anyway. I don’t see him as anything more than a developmental prospect, myself. I wouldn’t draft him in the 1st, either.

          As for Bolles, unfortunately for him, there’s no rehabbing from those chicken legs he’s got. He rarely just drives Pac-12 players off the ball, and he has trouble dealing with bull rushes from what I’ve seen. He isn’t even 300 pounds, and it shows up in his play. Not doing the bench is also a huge concern, because he looks to me like a guy that doesn’t have adequate functional strength, and that is way worse than being noncommittal toward playing college ball. Supposedly he had a “slight” pectoral strain, so we’ll see if he does the bench press at his pro day coming up here soon, but I doubt he gets more than 20. I don’t think I’d draft him in the 2nd round — forget about the 1st.

    • drewthorn

      I emailed the Denver guy a few days ago and never heard back. My last exchange with a Drafttek rep involved me being admonished for believing that L’Veon Bell was a draft worthy prospect, so grain of salt and all that. This guy has been on Bolles for at least a couple months, largely because he is suited to Denver’s zone blocking scheme, so…grain of salt and all that.

      • Kyle Milligan

        Zone blocking?
        This guy…

        • Yahmule

          This is what you get when you have analysts trying to give input on 32 teams. Only the ones who eat, sleep and breathe this stuff are able to avoid these kinds of gaffes consistently.

          • drewthorn

            Used to be that Drafttek had a dedicated correspondent for each team. The guy that does Denver seems to have multiple teams now, though. In theory, they run simulations against a Big Board that is a composite of all the draft boards appearing online. I always liked them because of the one guy knowing one team concept, figuring each would have a better feel for what their team might do than a guy analyzing all 32.

            Drafttek was pretty cool back when they had the only draft simulator available to readers. A few years back, no matter how I changed the inputs and variables, Malik Jackson was Denver’s 5th round pick virtually every time I ran a simulation. That was an outlier result but pretty cool all the same.

          • Kyle Milligan

            Fair enough

      • BlackKnigh

        They were saying the same about Sambraillo a couple of years ago. He was good with his footwork – when he was healthy enough to stay on the field.

    • Carsonic

      Definitely not going to look. Don’t want to get sad. Also, the only mock drafts I ever look at are the ones you guys actually post here.

    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      I’ll probably have Bolles ahead of Cunningham, but I will not have him ahead of Ramczyk and Little Mac. We can only hope Elway feels the same.

    • Yahmule

      That would be infuriating. Then they have us taking cement footed DE Chris Wormley in round two. Over Jarrad Davis, Moton, Chidobe, Kamara and half a dozen solid DT’s. I want to punch the person who made this mock.

  • RSH, Esq.

    Does this signing keep the Seahawks from considering Ryan Clady for now?

    https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/843151492043456512

  • RSH, Esq.

    As pointed out in a post in today’s thread, Andrew Mason sang the praises of Trevor Siemian in his most recent video mailbag. Mason also wrote an article about what Paxton Lynch has been up to this offseason. Principally, Lynch is working to correct and improve his footwork. http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Paxton-Lynch-ready-for-Broncos-quarterback-competition/966e0972-feeb-495f-bbcf-ee8f4e9929b9

  • More Cow Bell

    Beautiful day in Denver. 80 degrees and full sun. TYJE.

    • Nick

      It was 70 in Boise yesterday. Went on a long bike ride and then hit up the neighborhood brewery for St. Patrick’s Day. Good stuff.

      • DCJ1

        75 in San Diego. Did the plate for a Little League game. Spring is sprung.

    • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

      John Elway. HOF Player, Executive Mastermind, and apparently now a Sun God.

  • Nick

    Congrats to Sly for getting $5.5M APY.

    https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/843219675957743616

    • GrizzlyB

      Probably not a big deal either way, but ESPN’s Titans beat guy said yesterday that he got a $3 million signing bonus for a total of $17.5 million:

      https://twitter.com/PaulKuharskyNFL/status/842868609734995968

      • Nick

        Yeah, not a big difference for our purposes (but $1M extra is a big deal for Sly). I’m sure the exact details will emerge soon enough.

  • Nick
    • Yahmule

      Stole his best song off a teenager named Marty, but I guess he had a pretty okay career.

      • PiperAR

        That’s been debunked. Or was the debunking debunked? It’s hard to keep track of so many degrees of debunkness.

        • Yahmule

          Over-analysis of that movie rode proudly in the nerd vanguard for many years. :~)

      • Kyle Milligan

        I’d blame his cousin Marvin more than anyone

        • Yahmule

          Marvin should have taught himself to play guitar and kept his mouth shut.

          • Yahmule

            Marvin disappears for ten months. When he comes back, he gets Chuck to let him open for him. Busts out Johnny B. Goode, upstaging Chuck in front of a sellout crowd. Gets poleaxed by Chuck with a microphone stand.

  • Royalwithcheese
    • InSiemianWeTrust

      His name isn’t Vanderdon’t.

      *dadjoke*

    • Yahmule

      The guy had a deadline and he figured he could throw 3-10 out there in any random order?

  • Yahmule

    Bad day. Another titan in his field passes away. Sadly, at a much younger age than the Father of Rock and Roll.

    Farewell, Bernie Wrightson. You were incredibly unique and utterly amazing.

    March 19, 2017