• InSiemianWeTrust

    “Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel has reported that Lacy weighed in at 267 pounds at one of his free agent visits. That’s about 30 pounds above his playing weight. So much for that P90X regimen. ” From Walter.

    That’s a big boy.

    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      So are we all still mad about Elway passing on Lacy in favor of Montee Ball? At least Ball didn’t string us along for a couple seasons making us think he’d be a difference maker.

      • InSiemianWeTrust

        You never know. If Lacy wasn’t surrounded by cheese all day..

      • Benjamin Funderburk

        Not sure how much he helps our run game against Seattle in the Super Bowl, but I have to imagine in the short-term he would have made things interesting and been nice to package with Moreno. As for being mad, time heals all wounds, unless that wound was Alphonso Smith, Maurice Clarett, Tommy Maddox, Marcus Nash, Jarvis Moss, Ashley Lelie, Tim Tebow, or Willie Middlebrooks to name a few.

        • FloydLittle44

          Time wounds all heals.

          • Benjamin Funderburk

            You are a poet, sir!

        • PiperAR

          Drafting Ashley Lelie wouldn’t have been as bad in the 2nd round or had Ed Reed not been sitting there. As for his career, it’s a case study of what happens when a player with role-player talent has #1 receiver ego. Pairs nicely with Tatum Bell and his change of pace back talent and feature back ego.

          • John

            There was a mock at the time that had Denver taking Ed Reed (sigh).

        • Yahmule

          Marcus Nash became the Jerry Rice of the Arena League.

      • Rhett Rothberg

        I’d take Lacy. He isn’t in jail and he’s had seasons over 200 carries…

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          They did get something out of him, for sure. He looked to be very promising after two seasons. That may have made his collapse even harder to swallow, though. Better pick than Ball, no doubt, but not the not the player he looked to be a couple seasons ago.

      • ohiobronco

        Still mad about the epic fail that was Monte Ball regardless of the alternative.

    • FloydLittle44

      The trouble with P90X is there is a tendency to stop doing it for 6 months.

      • Nick

        True of many trendy workout programs, right?

    • Nick

      And to the surprise of no one, he got a Terrance Knighton style weight bonus in his contract.

      https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/842014899945508865

    • ElwayIsGod7

      I just have such a hard time understanding how someone with so many resources at his disposal can struggle with weight like this with so much $$$ on the line. I have a hard time driving past Chipotle without stopping in too, but you can bet your ass I’d have no problem passing it up if $4million dollars was the prize.

      • Sparks

        Mmm…Chipotle. Seriously though, I agree and feel the same way about pot. I’m not a dope smoker, but if I knew all I had to do was stay clean for 10ish years and then I could retire somewhere to live on a beach and smoke all I want, drink all I want and bang beach hotties all day, I think I could be persuaded to put the bong down.

        • S Smith

          I’ve heard that players use it for pain management. If I was in pain and that helped me manage, it might be tempting for me too. Of course, there are prescription pain killers, but those can be deadly too.

      • PiperAR

        If Chipotle makes you bleed out your asshole, why do people eat it???

        • Nick

          Too much fear of GMOs and too little fear of E. coli–some people have weird priorities when it comes to food.

  • InSiemianWeTrust
    • Royalwithcheese

      He’s gonna drop as a result. Do the Broncos take him at 20?

      • Yahmule

        I would be thrilled to have him. DT and Sanders are both closing on 30 and Davis is arguably the best WR in a deep class. He can line up anywhere and run any route. Physically, he’s almost exactly what you want at the position. No college player has ever produced more receiving yards and only one has caught more touchdown passes.

        • Royalwithcheese

          I’d be happy with the pick, even though it’s not really a pressing need right now. CMC and Reddick are my favorites, followed by Njoku or Engram.

          • InSiemianWeTrust

            Around our range (potentially) I would go in order, OJ Howard, CMC, Ram, Engram, Reddick, Ross=CoreyD.

            Ram is high on the list simply because when else will we ever have an outside chance of drafting the best Tackle in the class, regardless of if it’s a bad class?

  • RSH, Esq.
  • RSH, Esq.
    • Carsonic

      Needs more knives, doesn’t it?

    • Rhett Rothberg

      Et tu, Blue Cheese?

  • InSiemianWeTrust
    • Nick

      If this happened, can you imagine the laughter that would go on at IAOFM if it still existed?

      • Don’t worry, there will be plenty of laughter here.

      • RSH, Esq.

        Remember Doug’s friend Green and White?

        • JMac

          Oh man! That troll was hilarious!

    • gobroncos

      “The Browns plucked Osweiler from the Texans last week in a blockbuster trade.”

      Really? Blockbuster? More like lackluster.

      • ohiobronco

        “The Browns plucked a 2nd round pick from the Texans last week in a blockbuster trade.”

      • PiperAR

        Plucked?

        • GrizzlyB

          Like an ingrown hair.

  • Rhett Rothberg

    Follow up on BBC family…

    Can’t read a word, but the pictures are funny….

    http://www.huffingtonpost.kr/2017/03/15/story_n_15380194.html?1489571396

    PS – I know a couple of you are in/were in S. Korea. That place seems like a hoot and I think I would enjoy it there….

    • FloydLittle44

      Seoul is fantastic, very overlooked.

    • JMac

      The translate feature is Chrome is fantastic – I was pleasantly surprised at who easily I could read an entirely translated page.

    • Benjamin Funderburk

      S. Korea is a blast! Enjoyed it during my Army days and loved it even more traveling there for work later in life. Highly recommend it.

    • FarAwayBroncoFan

      Lived in Seoul from 2011-14. Loved it. Great food. Safe. Relatively friendly. Modern, with great broadband, public transportation, and loads of coffee shops. The binge drinking and ridiculously long workday were way over the top, though. Definitely worth a visit.

  • Nick
    • Nick

      Easier to add more value when the amount of value is near rock bottom to begin with.

      • PiperAR

        Nowhere to go but up.

        And, the Jaguars added more value to me.

    • Paco Alonzo

      Wonder what is family and hometown friends think about that .

      • GrizzlyB

        Family member: “Calais, you’re full of shit!”
        CC: “I will buy you a Porsche.”

  • So I just finished my NCAA bracket and now will ask everyone this question…

    Which team is going to bust the most brackets this year?

    My money is on Duke.

    • RSH, Esq.

      This should be accompanied by a trigger warning for @rhettrothberg:disqus.

      • Rhett Rothberg

        This snowflake is triggered!! But fear not, I am ensconced in my safe space and free from worrying about a bunch of teams I know nothing about, populated by players I know nothing about!!! 😉

    • John

      I hope so. I am a card-carrying Duke hater (since the Laettner days). I think that someone said that SMU could beat them on one of the tourney preview shows.

  • Jeremy

    Was doing research last night on the notion that Elway is a bad drafter. It seems he has done pretty well with early picks and late picks, but really struggled in the middle (mid 2nd round – mid 4th round). Out of the 14 players Elway has drafted in that range, probably Osweiler, Hillman, Nate Irving, or Schofield were the best picks, and I know many fans who weren’t pleased with any of those. Hopefully Simmons helps break that trend

    http://pfref.com/tiny/2VjY3

    • The Color Orange

      Orlando Franklin was a decent second round pick. Huge difference between Franklin and Ty Sambrailo.

      • Jeremy

        Wolfe (36), Moore (45) and Franklin (46) were probably his three best 2nd round draft picks, (Moore being the possible exception), and they all came in the first half of the 2nd round. Hence the designation of mid 2nd-mid 4th.

        • The Color Orange

          If you’re unwilling to call the 14th pick in the second round a “mid second rounder,” then you’re just trying to make the facts fit your conclusion.

          • Jeremy

            Alright, change designation to late 2nd round, since all the 2nd round busts were taken with pick 24-32. So Elway has struggled with late 2nd to mid 4th.

            And even if you did include Franklin and Moore, does the conclusion change very much?

    • Andrew

      I think Simmons is going to pan out, but I agree that when I think of Elway having any draft struggles the 2nd round immediately comes to mind. In the long term I think everyone is going to have there fair share of misses, overall I’m content with Elways drafting.

    • Nick

      Someone (maybe Jimmy Johnson?) once said that you’re doing a real good job if you hit on at least half of your draft picks. Someone needs to figure out what the median “hit rate” is with draft picks so that fans can gain a little perspective when certain picks don’t work out as planned.

      • Jeremy

        If I have time, maybe I’ll try and look at the median Avs per pick for draft picks from a handful of recent drafts, fit a decay curve, and then you could easily see how often Elway beat that median value for each pick.

      • Kush-Lash

        Hey Nick, how about a March Madness Best Draft in the Pat Bowlen Era? 🙂

        http://in-thinair.com/2016/03/20/denver-broncos-march-madness-tournament/

        • Nick

          I’m probably not going to have enough time to manage that. I did think about doing a quick “Worst Owner In The NFL” bracket, but then I thought that would be too tasteless, plus given recent events Dan Snyder would “win” it in a landslide.

          • Kush-Lash

            No worries, I’d love to help next year though, just thought of it too late. Snyder and Haslam would be a nice match-up though!

          • Nick

            I’d have my #1 seeds as Snyder, Haslam, Irsay & York.

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            Can’t forget the previous Bidwell. Oh boy, was he a shining example.

      • PiperAR

        I know nothing about baseball, but a batter who only succeeds 3 times in 10 attempts can’t possibly be any good.

        • Yahmule

          Three hits in 10 at bats is generally good. Three times on base in 10 at bats qualifies you to bat leadoff for Dusty Baker.

          • PiperAR

            It’s hard to judge performance absent of context.

      • Jeremy

        Another interesting way to evaluate draft picks would be they either re-sign after their contract, or sign with someone above the threshold for a 7th round comp pick (doesn’t matter if it was cancelled or not)

    • Rhett Rothberg

      There has got to be someone who’s done an analysis on drafting…..right? As in, doing a full on analysis of which picks lead to the biggest outcomes, both in performance and salary hit.

      Maybe it would turn out that 3rd round picks are the best value. Most contribution for a given salary cap dollar.

      You could turn this into a strategy whereby you sacrifice other picks to stockpile a load of 3rd rounders or something.

      An analysis of drafting that is separate from the player evaluation part….

      And then a cross analysis of a given team across those metrics….showing how team A has missed on their 6th rounders, but that 6th rounders arent maybe bad to miss out on because they typically don’t have the performance/salary cap dollar metric of the 3rd rounder.

      Does this not exist?

      If not….somebody should do that or something….

      • Rhett Rothberg

        …and if it does, someone needs to provide the link…

        …and get me some coffee….and pick up my dry cleaning?

    • S Smith

      Heuerman showed some flashes and may turn out decent with more experience.

  • Nick
    • Rhett Rothberg

      The chatter out here seems to consist of the fanbase trying to convince themselves that their team is more of a two-alarm dumpster fire than a four-alarm dumpster fire and that Snyder and Bruce Allen are generally just bad people… #schadenfreude

  • Nick

    Ian Rapoport hypothesizes on the Rich Eisen Show that Romo might not leave Dallas until during the draft. Makes some sense. Ian and Rich hypothesized flipping him for a 3rd if the Texans don’t get the rookie QB they may want. Here’s another hypothesis I’ll throw out: either Denver at #20 or Houston at #25 doesn’t get the player(s) they want, and simply flip with the Cowboys at #28 and get Romo in return.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2cQObfjbGg

    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      That’s too much to give up, IMO. Moving down 8 spots could be worth more than a third. We could probably have him right now for a 6th or 7th.

      • Jeremy

        When the Broncos moved from 25 to 36 and got Wolfe, all they got was a 4th

        • Jeremy

          But I did think that was a horrible deal for the Broncos.

          • PiperAR

            I mean Wolfe in the 2nd and Bolden in the 4th is better than Wolfe in the first. But yes, Denver didn’t get much in those trades.

          • Jeremy

            Horrible is probably too strong a word. But I agree.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            More or less the equivalent of a late 3rd, but yes, they should have gotten more.

        • Nick

          Although you likely know this, to clarify they traded down twice. They first got NE’s very low 4th to move to 31, and then swapped that with TB’s very high 4th to move down to 36.

        • VonSwenson

          That wasn’t necessarily a rational trade. I heard that the Broncos were horribly disappointed when the Steelers took the guy they craved, David DeCastro, right before their pick.

          • bradley

            I’d rather have Wolfe anyway.

          • VonSwenson

            OK. Agreed.

      • Nick

        It all depends on how the draft board shakes out. if they don’t see anyone of good value in their judgment until #28, I wouldn’t rule it out if they are interested in Romo.

        • BlackKnigh

          This could work for both Denver and Houston. Makes more sense than trading a player. Just hope it is not Denver.

    • PiperAR

      Jerry Jones calls both Denver and Houston during the draft, and both answer “no, merci”.

      • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

        It’s actually “Non Merci”. You also have to plug your nose, and put a pickle in your ass when you say it.

        • Carsonic

          There you go, trying to talk me into sexy time again.

          • WhoShotBobbyHumphrey

            Something about seeing Jerry Jones, and French words in the same sentence really get me twisted.

    • Yahmule

      It would be more humane to just gut shoot us.

    • Benjamin Funderburk

      Part of me wishes Romo would demand he be released today and give him the freedom to negotiate a deal with whomever he wants. I’d hate to be in the middle of this cat and mouse game Jerrah Jones wants to play.

    • GrizzlyB

      RE: “All right, Ian, what’s new?”
      IR: “Well, I’m hearing word of a great way to pad airtime on days 2 and 3 of the draft. We could be sitting on a veritable goldmine of circular talking points, here, Rich.”

      • Snatch Mouth

        This no shittin

  • Royalwithcheese

    Not much to like about this mock draft, except that CMC ends up in the NFC. Also interesting that he doesn’t have Ramczyk in the first round anymore. http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/insider/story/_/id/18907045/todd-mcshay-2017-nfl-mock-draft-30

    I’m going to go on record and say that Reddick is going to be an All Pro-caliber player. I hope the Broncos draft him.

    • The Color Orange

      Link?

    • Sparks

      I’m not an Insider user. Who did they have the Broncos taking?

      • Royalwithcheese

        Sorry, Bolles. CMC goes to the Eagles.

      • Yahmule

        Bolles.

        Reddick, Ramcyzk, McDowell still on the board.

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          Our guy Jabrill Peppers, too.

        • drewthorn

          For the life of me I can’t see why anybody would grade Bolles ahead of Ramczyk. Ramczyk with a peg leg would be closer to NFL OT than Bolles currently is.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            Potential medical flags for Ramczyk + Questionable “love of the game” + Very good combine for a healthy and technically sound Bolles = no clear winner. I like Ramczyk’s tape and upside better, but no one wants to draft a guy who’s injured and isn’t very excited about playing anyway (worst case). Incidentally I still have Ramczyk graded higher but I don’t have a medical staff to evaluate him. Significant questions for both players increases the likelihood that they’ll be available at 20 or later.

          • drewthorn

            Because a Bolles is a trendy Denver pick right now, I decided I best study him in case I’m forced to like him. I’m just not seeing it, I guess.

            98% of Utah’s passing attempts are headed down range in 2 seconds, which makes that aspect tough to evaluate. His legendary athleticism doesn’t show up in the run game, as he often lurches at and misses second level targets.

            I really hope Ramczyk interviewed well with Denver and the medical s checked out. He already can play. I just seriously doubt, based on his tape, that he’ll make it to 20.

          • RSH, Esq.

            A million sad face emojis.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            I’m not necessarily advocating for him at #20, but I’d settle for him after a trade back. His power in the run game is certainly questionable, but his feet and pass blocking technique are rock solid.

            I’m exploring the “what if we don’t draft a T in the first” options currently. Western Michigan Taylor Moton and Troy’s Antonio Garcia are growing on me, though Garcia will have some of the same issues as Bolles re: power. He’s about 2 years younger, though, and has a larger frame to add strength/weight. Moton is probably RT only, but Garcia is an interesting option at LT, especially after a year or two in an NFL strength program. Unfortunately, Denver might not be able to afford a year or two development time.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52AIR8nxhgY

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9KMn9I8lzQ&t=55s

          • GrizzlyB

            I really like Moton, but definitely a RT-only (and that’s if he doesn’t go to guard). Garcia is a decent prospect with question marks. Dawkins might be workable, but he’s not as talented as Lamp but has the same question marks (IIRC, not going to look up everybody right now). The only other developmental-type LT that I’ve seen is Will Holden. (at least as far as guys who might contribute this season. I also like Nate Theaker out of D-II Wayne State, but he’s a total lottery ticket who will likely get drafted very late and need to acclimate to the NFL — if he is even able to)

            I liked a lot of RTs, but this draft really is a dearth at LT. It’s too bad we couldn’t get one in FA, which I had long assumed we would.

  • Nick
    • InSiemianWeTrust

      43.5, 4y, 19gtd

      Don’t think the Jets were going to pay much, much more.

      Less than Collins, although they played diff roles. New England may have paid near market value for Hightower.

    • Snatch Mouth

      FUCK THE PATRIOTS

    • Snatch Mouth

      Scamming motherfucker shopped himself like a mole

  • JMac

    Matt Paradis got over half his base pay in performance bonus – What a great effort:

    http://www.denverpost.com/2017/03/15/matt-paradis-again-leads-broncos-in-performance-based-pay/

    • Nick

      Barring something disastrous, he’ll get a 2nd round RFA tender at a minimum in 2018.

      • JMac

        If all goes well with his hip surgeries, do you see them looking to extend him before then?

        • Nick

          If his 2017 performance is up to his high standard, then I would absolutely use an RFA tender as a bridge toward an extension.

  • Alaskan

    You guys are amazing.
    Do any of you actually have jobs or families or other stuff that gets in the way of knowing everything about football?
    I usually only work a few hours each day at this point, and I still don’t have nearly enough time to be as informed.

    • Nick

      My profession obviously requires a lot of computer time, so it’s easy to have a Twitter feed open while I work away.

    • PiperAR

      Between jobs.

  • RSH, Esq.

    As discussed in yesterday’s Orange Overview post, Mike Klis appeared on Brandon Stokley’s and Cecil Lammey’s KKFN-FM (104.3 The Fan) show, where he discussed a possible Broncos’ trade-up in the first round to select an offensive tackle. I disagreed with such a position and called in to voice my opposition. Audio of my call is available starting around the 4:53 mark.

    http://1043thefan.com/category/podcast_player/?a=10011631&sid=1148&n=Brandon%20Stokley

    • Jeremy

      Try again.

      • RSH, Esq.

        I corrected the link.

    • Carsonic

      The link didn’t make it in one piece.

    • John

      Good points. I am on board with either McCaffrey, O.J. Howard, or John Ross in Round 1 at this point.

      • ElwayIsGod7

        Carl Lawson 🙂

        • SterlingMalloryArcher

          Second round

          • ElwayIsGod7

            I feel strongly through my homer-vision that he’s gonna be a steal for someone in the second round. He’s got a reputation for being one of those “loves the game/football junkie” types, in addition to being a gym-rat, allegedly good leader & overall good dude…no off-field issues, stops the run, etc.

            His Sophomore year was derailed by the dreaded non-contact ACL in the spring, & he missed most of his Jr year with a stupid hip-injury against Louisville in week 1 after one half of terrorizing their QB. His Freshman year he stuffed “little bitch” TJ Yeldon on 4th and inches in the “Kick 6” game that gave AU a chance to tie late, and generally was a beast his Sr. Yr….had 9.5 sacks but probably should have had 15…gotta work on finishing.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            I’ve got him 9th among edge rushers, but that’s mostly because it’s such a deep class. We could see seven or eight edge rushers go in the first round, which is pretty crazy. I think the tremendous talent there pushes him down the board a bit. Here’s my current rankings for edge players:

            1. Myles Garrett, Texas A&M
            2. Solomon Thomas, Stanford
            3. Derek Barnett, Tennessee
            4. Taco Charlton, Michigan
            5. Takkarist Mckinley, UCLA
            6. Charles Harris, Missouri
            7. Tim Williams, Alabama
            8. T.J. Watt, Wisconsin
            9. Carl Lawson, Auburn

            It wouldn’t be ridiculous to see all these guys go on Day 1, but I think it’s unlikely. Because of the depth at CB and TE as well, a few of these guys will likely slide to Day 2, including Lawson. They won’t necessarily go in this order because some are better fits for some systems than others (Taco Charlton looks like a 4-3 DE exclusively, not a 3-4 OLB). Lawson is scheme versatile, which will work in his favor.

          • Yahmule

            Tim Williams could be number two on that list based on talent, but he sure does have all the traits of a coach killer.

          • Yahmule

            Ramczyk was stoning Charlton in their matchup. They flipped him to the other side and he immediately beat the RT for a crushing sack.

      • BlackKnigh

        McCaffrey 1st round for Denver. OT 3rd round or so. I am guessing the Bolles will be gone.

  • Jeremy

    Any of the big talk radio listeners know of an episode that talked in detail about the Broncos and their season ticket audit? I’ve heard a lot of rumors but few details, particularly about who they went after (NFL ticket exchange sellers, sellers who on Stub hub or other 3rd party sites, something else?)

    • RSH, Esq.

      Parts of the first and second hours of Brandon Stokley’s and Cecil Lammey’ show on KKFN-FM discussed the issue yesterday. Audio is available at http://1043thefan.com/category/podcast_results/?sid=1148&n=Brandon%20Stokley.

      I think that the Denver Broncos need to better articulate their season ticket audit and revocation policies, e.g., the following action or inaction by a season ticket holder will increase the likelihood of an audit and x, y, z actions will subject the season ticket holder to revocation. There should also be a more clearly established dispute resolution process and ability to provide mitigating evidence in the event of a revocation, e.g., when a season ticket holder does not attend games and/or sells the majority of his or her tickets due to military service or significant medical issue(s).

      • Jeremy

        I see your point, but the problem is season ticket holders aren’t stupid, and if you made some rule such as if you sell more than 4 of your 8 home games, your tickets will be revoked the following season, fans will sell 4 online, and then sell the other 4 on craigslist.

        As someone who is buried on the wait list (and probably still will be) but who likes to go to games, I’m worried ticket prices are going to spike next year. They maybe move a few fans who were on the wait list season ticket holders, but you made every season ticket holder terrified they are going to lose their seats if they are going to sell them, and also revoked tickets from many people who used to sell them to every game. That’s going to significantly decrease the number of tickets on the market, driving up cost. Also, with all tickets being PDFs now, you are taking an even greater chance of being scammed if you go the craigslist route.

        I also don’t get why the Broncos did this. The NFL makes I believe a 30% commission when tickets are re-sold, which is not insignificant. The only reason I can think that would be in the Broncos interest is to please fans and gain good will, but they’ve butchered the PR so much most reactions I’ve seen have been outrage.

        • Rob Rooney

          There is a downside to selling your tickets outside of Ticketmaster in that you don’t get liability protection. If you give your tickets to someone or sell them outside of an approved vendor (i.e. anyone but Ticketmaster) then you are still responsible for the conduct of the person who buys them. So if you sell them on craigslist and the person is a jerk and gets in a fight, the ticket owner can be punished and lose their tickets. Ticket Exchange will protect the original owners for the conduct of whoever purchases it.
          You are correct, the team gets a piece of that re-sale on Ticketmaster so that is one of the reasons they want to herd you there.
          I am in the same boat as you and I want to move up on the list and get season tickets so I can go without buying club seats or paying a ton.
          Maybe this is an extension of Elway’s desire for players who want to be Broncos. He only wants fans who want to go to games!

          • Jeremy

            That’s another good point about the liability protection for NFL ticket exchange tickets.

          • drewthorn

            That explains part of what confuses me on this issue. It used to be that you could easily find tickets at face value if you knew where to look. I guess if you are concerned with being liable for the actions of the stranger that gets your tickets, you’d have an interest in having a third party that would assume that risk. Not so long ago, there were bars and restaurants sprinkled across the metro area where folks could leave tickets for other folks to buy.

          • SterlingMalloryArcher

            The demand has gone WAY up since 2012 as well. Just can’t find them for less than double face value (triple for the good games), even without the Ticketmaster taking a cut.

          • Jeremy

            I think the internet also changed that. Buyers/Sellers can always find a ticket/buyer so they aren’t left hoping they run into someone who wants to buy or sell their tickets.

          • Jeremy

            And I think when dealing with strangers on the internet, there wasn’t any stigma about charging more than face value, like there is in person.

          • drewthorn

            Makes sense. I know the places I went used ticket brokering as a draw. You’d have to get a table and order to be eligible to buy. I liked getting 1st level tix and then swapping with a scalper at the stadium for primo 3rd level seats. They could charge more for any 1st level ticket.

      • My friend in NJ has had 4 Broncos tickets since 2010 and he has never attended a single game, re-sells every ticket. He told me the team is calling him regularly now trying to get a commitment to renew for next yr. He says the audit is fake news, designed only to generate interest the team and pacify a few fans that had publicly complained about ticket holders/brokers re-selling.

  • gobroncos

    ….(sigh)….

    Things are slowing down again….

    When’s the draft? A month a way?

    ….(sigh)….

    • Royalwithcheese

      Pray for trades (LT, QB).

      • RSH, Esq.

        What would be a starting point to get a left tackle via trade? Brandon Marshall or a third round pick for Jason Peters? Peters is 35-years-old, unfortunately. Marshall and a third round pick to Cleveland for Joe Thomas? A second round pick for Joe Staley?

        • Royalwithcheese

          I’d try to do a third for Staley. He’s a bit younger and has a reasonable contract for the next three years. I very much doubt Cleveland moves Joe Thomas. Not sure about Jason Peters.

          • VonSwenson

            A five-time pro-bowl LT, 32 years old. Presumably has a few good years left, in a good situation. Priceless.

            In my opinion, with the crapshoot draft picks are, that’s worth AT LEAST a second.

      • VonSwenson

        LT anyway.

        • Carsonic

          Thank you.

  • Nick
    • Jeremy

      Surprised he’s only 30. Felt like he was that old when he left Denver.

    • Yahmule

      His streak as a team captain, dating back to high school, is still intact.

    • Technically it was a pay cut with a couple years added…

  • Nick
    • bradley

      Trying to figure out how he did that when the QB was under center.

  • InSiemianWeTrust
    • drewthorn

      When I think Thielen, I think lunch box, with sand. I think want-to and determination. I see steel mills and coal mines. I realize what Trump is talking about when he cajoles us to Make America Great Again.

      If this isn’t winning again, I don’t know what is.

      • FarAwayBroncoFan

        It has occurred to me that perhaps 90 percent of your posts are pure sarcasm. I love it!

        • Alaskan

          But Drew does need to learn how to use the new sarcasm font that Nick invented.
          Otherwise, people (not me) get riled up sometimes.

          • FarAwayBroncoFan

            I sometimes think so, but then I realized I enjoy figuring out if he’s serious.

        • drewthorn

          90 is high. In general, I don’t mistake what goes on in here for solving world hunger. Based on some of the negative feedback I’ve received here, I think my real personality and bearing would surprise a lot folks. I’m pretty good natured and light hearted in person, and that doesn’t come across as well in written communication.

          • I think you’re being too hard on your online self. It seems obvious to me that almost everyone here thoroughly enjoys your online persona.

          • drewthorn

            Thank you.

          • BlackKnigh

            I agree.

  • GrizzlyB

    https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/842144293418635265

    I like Watson and would like to keep him, but if he signs a decent deal elsewhere, it opens up a 3rd round comp pick for Okung, AFAIK. Same with Walker, but if both sign with other teams, that opens up two picks, and we’ve already addressed OLB and DL with Edebali and Kerr/Peko, respectively.

    • SterlingMalloryArcher

      I think the Edebali signing was a farewell to Watson, as the Kerr/Peko signings were a farewell to Walker. The draft is loaded with edge rushers, and since there are currently 4 under contract (Miller, Ray, Barrett, Edebali), I think drafting a 5th is far more likely than signing a veteran for that role.

      • Snatch Mouth

        Guaranteed

  • Royalwithcheese

    Hankins and Poe are both still free agents. How is this possible?

    • They saw the monster deal that Williams got and want something in that neighborhood? Poe really surprises me… though a KC fan friend said his back is an issue and wasn’t anything special when he played.

  • S Smith

    King Dunlap ranks among options mulled by Broncos at left tackle spot

    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/sports/broncos/king-dunlap-ranks-among-options-mulled-by-broncos-at-left-tackle-spot

    – Hmm, is this the best option left?

  • Snatch Mouth

    You guys bring all that political shat up in here…I’m going to leave you this little gem as my contribution.

    Snuggle up in times of low news…

    http://www.prosportsdaily.com/RedZone/Article/the-hotness-of-sports-featuring-mariana-costa-458331